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Old 10-04-2013, 05:28 PM   #576
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I feel GOTG could pull in about $350mil WW or even more, much more. With no Pixar film next year I see Disney and the merchandisers going all out in an effort to compensate.

I imagine DOFP doing $200+mil in the US and $300+mil overseas. The release date delay in some countries could stunt its performance (but by only a bit). I honestly feel it could end up with $550 mil WW. (I wouldn't spin off into XForce with that number though. I would just make a sequel...)

We have to wait until Thor's BO gets back to put a pin on how much Cap could do, but remember there's no Pixar film next year so Disney could go a little bit further with the marketing.

50 Shades of Grey however could be the breakout hit of the year. There's bound to be controversy, and women do tend to go to the movies in groups,. It could honestly end up being a strong competitor for GOTG.

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50 Shades of Grey however could be the breakout hit of the year. There's bound to be controversy, and women do tend to go to the movies in groups,. It could honestly end up being a strong competitor for GOTG.
Nah, families are not gonna take their kids to 50 shades haha. Even without the family demo, look at what happened when Ted and Magic Mike opened on the same day.

GOTG and 50 Shades have completely opposite audiences. Both can easily be a hit without disrupting the others success. It's when films with the same target audience are competing that theres a problem.

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I can see DoFP doing $500m+ worldwide, I just wonder if that's going to be a satisfying number for the studio, if it really is their second-biggest production and the budget numbers we've seen are correct.

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DOFP Is going to great business overseas.Domesticly Is the questions.

GotG could end up like thor at least 180 million domesticly.Remember it opens 2 weeks after dawn of planet of the apes and happens to be an august realese.But like thor in 2011 It could do better overseas.Of course that is likely for DOFP and ASM2 as well.

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Nah, families are not gonna take their kids to 50 shades haha. Even without the family demo, look at what happened when Ted and Magic Mike opened on the same day.

GOTG and 50 Shades have completely opposite audiences. Both can easily be a hit without disrupting the others success. It's when films with the same target audience are competing that theres a problem.
Yeah but I still think 50 Shades could be big. If I were disney I would be very happy that horny teens are buying tickets for GOTG just to sneak into 50 shades. It would open up a whole new revenue stream, "profit by default"

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Yeah but I still think 50 Shades could be big. If I were disney I would be very happy that horny teens are buying tickets for GOTG just to sneak into 50 shades. It would open up a whole new revenue stream, "profit by default"
I'm not arguing that 50 shades won't be a hit. I'm sure it will be. I fail to see how it's a competitor for GOTG when a majority of Guardians audience is not the target demo for 50 Shades.

Those horny teens can just watch internet porn for free. Teenagers are probably gonna be more interested in seeing a hot green alien chick fighting Thanos and a Racoon with a machine gun then a drama. Adult Women will be the main demo for 50 Shades.

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I'm not arguing that 50 shades won't be a hit. I'm sure it will be. I fail to see how it's a competitor for GOTG when a majority of Guardians audience is not the target demo for 50 Shades.

Those horny teens can just watch internet porn for free. Teenagers are probably gonna be more interested in seeing a hot green alien chick fighting Thanos and a Racoon with a machine gun then a drama. Adult Women will be the main demo for 50 Shades.
But porn....

On a big screen.

In 3D (I know it's not in 3D, but just imagine)

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Mammaries in 3D are probably the best way for 3D to get a better rep in the states...


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I'd bet that Amazing Spider-Man 2 grosses the most out of the 2014 superhero movies.

How do you guys think this will fair against Cap 2 and GOTG? Financially that is.

I reckon cap will do better than the first, GOTG will do good but not billions as it's new and unknown. Both will get a bump from fanboys going to see it multiple times even if it's rubbish.

I'd predict that X-Men Dayos of future past will probably match Cap 2 financially or eek ahead slightly with Spidey leading and GOTG a little behind.
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1. TASM2 or DOFP
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***huge gap***
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Sure, if its opening the summer but no.

Its getting the August/late summer release date and August is usually the weakest month of the summer/genre films and its competing against 50 Shades of Grey.

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I'm not arguing that 50 shades won't be a hit. I'm sure it will be. I fail to see how it's a competitor for GOTG when a majority of Guardians audience is not the target demo for 50 Shades.

Those horny teens can just watch internet porn for free. Teenagers are probably gonna be more interested in seeing a hot green alien chick fighting Thanos and a Racoon with a machine gun then a drama. Adult Women will be the main demo for 50 Shades.
If comedy-film We're the Millers which didn't even top at the weekend box-office managed to outgross action/sci-films like Elysium and The Wolverine in the U.S. I don't see why 50 Shades of Grey couldn't be seen as competition to GOTG. Also drama film The Butler did well in August/September.

And outside of the CBM sites/Comic-Con, the 50 Shades of Grey film has more hype than GOTG. Just look at IMDb stats.


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If comedy-film We're the Millers which didn't even top at the weekend box-office managed to outgross action/sci-films like Elysium and The Wolverine in the U.S. I don't see why 50 Shades of Grey couldn't be seen as competition to GOTG.
Apples and oranges. A comedy film like We're The Millers outgrossing a sci fi film like Elysium and a superhero movie like The Wolverine is more probable than a R Rated hardcore female fantasy like 50 Shades of Grey providing competition to a more mainstream friendly film like Guardians of the Galaxy. I can see this being a repeat of Thor vs Bridesmaids.


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Apples and oranges. A comedy film like We're The Millers outgrossing a sci fi film like Elysium and a superhero movie like The Wolverine is more probable than a R Rated hardcore female fantasy like 50 Shades of Grey providing competition to a more mainstream friendly film like Guardians of the Galaxy. I can see this being a repeat of Thor vs Bridesmaids.
But the extra publicity could take a lot of attention away from GOTG. We need to remember females, couples, young adults do play a part in the BO of a summer action movie. ( I imagine 50 shades could sway older teens away from GOTG, universal would be foolish not have a decent social media push, we could end up seeing the movie attract part of the social media obsessed R Rated fools that have done favors for the horror genre recently). Females tend to watch films in groups and are also more prone to repeat viewings as are young adults. We also have to remember that curiosity amongst the public will be present, in the past curiosity of a franchise amongst people that were not the intended audience has helped boost the BO of films such as Twilight, Hunger Games, Toy Story 3, Despicable Me 2 and even the The Dark Knight. Believe me there's gonna be a lot of people wanting to know "what all the hype is about".

I think 50 shades has the potential to be a Gatsby sized hit. The international market and non English speaking countries could end up being the saving grace for GOTG (which will probably end up with a cool $350mil gross, probably more depending on how well they market it)

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If GOTG gets low box office it will be the fault of it's own, not 50 Shades stealing it's audience. Two movies can exist at the same time and hit their respected target demo. Especially ones that are as different apart as those two.
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Apples and oranges. A comedy film like We're The Millers outgrossing a sci fi film like Elysium and a superhero movie like The Wolverine is more probable than a R Rated hardcore female fantasy like 50 Shades of Grey providing competition to a more mainstream friendly film like Guardians of the Galaxy. I can see this being a repeat of Thor vs Bridesmaids.
This.


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If GOTG gets low box office it will be the fault of it's own, not 50 Shades stealing it's audience. Two movies can exist at the same time and hit their respected target demo. Especially ones that are as different apart as those two.


This.
Pg13 summer blockbusters don't have target demos. They target every demographic available but put more emphasis onto certain demographics. Comic book blockbusters are not just composed of kids, teenage boys and men. There is a huge group of people that GOTG could miss out on due to 50 Shades. It's down to the marketers to combat that situation, but to say that two potentially large movies are not in competition just because they are different is insane.

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what I think some people is missing is the fact that just because two movies are in theatre at the same time, in the same month, it doesnt mean the general audience cant watch both

they could see Guardians on first weekend, and 50shades two weeks later, u know? lol

so my point is, they arent direct competition, at the end of the day.

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If DOFP turns out to be an epic film, it should easily do better than Amazing Spider-Man 2. But Spidey's the more recognizable of the two brands...on the other hand, not much is known of the ASM 2 and it doesn't seem to involve a post-apocalyptic future, time travel and political issues/assassinations.

I can see (and hope) DOFP doing between $600-$700 million worldwide.

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Pg13 summer blockbusters don't have target demos.
What? Every film has a target demo. Just cause it's a larger audience doesn't mean it gets discredited of that. The fact GOTG is more universal is my whole point with 50 Shades not being a strong competitor, like you originally said it could be. It can't steal that wide appeal because it's confined to a very specific audience unlike GOTG. Could it take some box office away? Sure. Enough to matter? Hell no. Kids, families and teens would have to be choosing 50 shades over it which is not gonna happen. Most that audience can't even get into that if they wanted to. If Guardians isn't brining in that audience, it's gonna be a problem with the film not doing it's job to bring them in, not an Adult Drama opening at the same time.


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I think ASM 2 would do better BO than DOFP.SpiderMan is the most popular superhero and it's going to do a solid 750million regardless of how good/bad the movie is.

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It's difficult to predict how much The Avengers will still be impacting CA and Guardians. As others have mentioned, we'll have a better idea when Thor 2's numbers come in. The World Cup begins in mid June which also throws a wrench into things, possibly affecting X-Men the most. Nonetheless I gave it a try, here are my box-office predictions:

Captain America: The Winter Soldier [April 4]
Opening Weekend: $150M
North America: $350M
Foreign: $420M

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 [May 2]
Opening Weekend: $125M
North America: $230M
Foreign: $500M

X-Men: Days of Future Past [May 23]
Opening Weekend: $140M
North America: $310M
Foreign: $400M

Guardians of the Galaxy [August 1]
Opening Weekend: $85M
North America: $190M
Foreign: $250M

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Yea Captain America's not doing $150 Mil opening weekend...LOL

And I doubt GOTG will open that huge too.

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IMO, Cap 2 earning 150 million at the opening Weekend in the U.S. is impossible. The film has less hype than X-Men/Spidey and its already the 3rd post-Avengers film.

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Apples and oranges. A comedy film like We're The Millers outgrossing a sci fi film like Elysium and a superhero movie like The Wolverine is more probable than a R Rated hardcore female fantasy like 50 Shades of Grey providing competition to a more mainstream friendly film like Guardians of the Galaxy. I can see this being a repeat of Thor vs Bridesmaids.
Flash news. We're the Millers was R-rated too.


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The Thor Bridesmaids comparrison is probably the best outcome.

Elysium aint Thor or GOTG. It was rated R itself and can't get the family audience. It also sucked, was not part of an already appealing franchise plus was not backed by 2 certain studios that make a huge difference when families pick their films.


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I find it hard to believe any movie (Marvel) will outgross TASM2. It has the best release date and is about the second most commercially successful CB character ever.

Of course I have no idea what will be the best film.

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A Thor Bridesmaids comparrison is probably gonna be the outcome.

Elysium aint Thor or GOTG. For one, it's rated R itself and can't get the family audience. Two, it sucked. And three it's not backed by you know who.
Yeah because Thor/Bridesmaids were released in August and were released in the same weekend. Oh wait NO, they were released in May and when Bridesmaids was released in America, Thor was already in its 3rd weekend.

GOTG is not opening the summer, its gonna be the 3rd comic-book adaptation of the summer and blockbuster-fatigue usually happen in July and August. And drama/comedies usually perform well in August/July. Thats the case for The Butler/We're The Millers this year.

And I've said it before, I think GOTG might beat 50 Shades of Grey in the opening weekend (just like how Elysium beat We're the Millers in the opening weekend) but 50 Shades of Grey will have better legs at the box-office than GOTG.

And just because its coming from Marvel and Disney. It doesn't mean its already a guaranteed success, Prince of Persia, The Lone Ranger and John Carter were released by Disney. Incredible Hulk came from Marvel Studios and I'm pretty sure people don't watch films just because of the Marvel logo because if thats the case, movies like Elektra, Blade, Punisher, Ghost Rider, Daredevil, Hulk should have earned more money.


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I think 50 shades will beat GOTG. Everyone knows that property but not everyone knows GOTG.

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