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Old 04-30-2016, 10:32 AM   #76
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Are people really so dead-set on Jon not being gone that they're willing to throw all of the series' previously-established internal logic out the window? Cause it feels like that's what's happening.

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Old 04-30-2016, 10:34 AM   #77
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Such as?

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Old 04-30-2016, 10:43 AM   #78
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Him miraculously being resurrected after his body is burned is wholly inconsistent with the series' previously-established internal logic, and circumstances as they've been set up just don't track with the idea of Melisandre bringing him back to life (even if she knew how, which she doesn't)

At this point, the only way Jon could conceivably come back would be for the Brotherhood without Banners and Thoros to miraculously and inexplicably show up at the Wall before Thorne's deadline of "nightfall" comes and goes, which would completely defy logic on a "deus ex machina" scale.

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Old 04-30-2016, 12:11 PM   #79
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I think we're gonna find out he's a Targaryen once/if they burn his body.
An analysis video pointed out that the bloodstain in the snow looked like a dragon taking flight. Davos did spend a lot of time looking at it.

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Old 04-30-2016, 04:28 PM   #80
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Him miraculously being resurrected after his body is burned is wholly inconsistent with the series' previously-established internal logic, and circumstances as they've been set up just don't track with the idea of Melisandre bringing him back to life (even if she knew how, which she doesn't)

At this point, the only way Jon could conceivably come back would be for the Brotherhood without Banners and Thoros to miraculously and inexplicably show up at the Wall before Thorne's deadline of "nightfall" comes and goes, which would completely defy logic on a "deus ex machina" scale.
1) If he is Rhaegar's son, then he won't burn any more than Dany did in Drogo's pyre.

2) Melisandre is a priestess of R'hollor, and possibly centuries old at that! It's likely she has performed resurrections or, at the very least, knows "the old words" which aren't all that many. Remember how quickly and easily Thoros did it after the Hound slew Beric? Here's a refresher:

Game of Thrones Beric Dondarrion's resurrection


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Old 05-06-2016, 07:23 AM   #81
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Targaryens aren't fireproof.

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Pretty much.





D&D tried to make this work by having the Dothraki run circles around her making lots of track rings so that Jorah would be drawn to investigate the center of that circle and find it.

It was a bad, unoriginal idea that blatantly steals from The Two Towers and why the hell would the Dothraki feel a need to circle an unarmed girl that much?

Nice review and your avatar is lovely.
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i didn't even notice their circles until you mentioned them. good eye

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Are people really so dead-set on Jon not being gone that they're willing to throw all of the series' previously-established internal logic out the window? Cause it feels like that's what's happening.


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#dontbepetty

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Old 05-08-2016, 08:37 PM   #85
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You the real MVP KANE!!!! You the real MVP!!!


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Just finished the episode. I thought it was a good set-up of things. Though I have some plot issues.

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A lot of it felt like deleted scenes from the season five finale.

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