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Old 07-25-2011, 11:58 PM   #1
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I just got back from seeing the film. I really enjoyed it.

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The Red Skull used the cosmic cube on the last thread

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After seeing my second showing of it, I enjoyed it much more.

7/10 to 8/10

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I saw it lastnight and I must say I liked it. One of the better comic book movies to come out this year. The acting, story and FXs was all good. All N all I'd give it a 9 out of 10.

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I liked it. Some things to nitpick about. I don't feel Captain America defeated Red Skull, he defeated himself. And what happend to him? Did he die or get sent into space? Or Asgard maybe? I guess the left it open on purpose. Some of the action looked more like a video game cut scene. And the ended fell flat. "I was promised a dance" - End. The movie literally just stops. While the romance felt more rushed than even Thor, it had more emotion as Cap was crashing. I really felt sorry for them. I still feel I liked Thor and First Class more. Let's hope the don't mess up Avengers.

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I liked it. Some things to nitpick about. I don't feel Captain America defeated Red Skull, he defeated himself. And what happend to him? Did he die or get sent into space? Or Asgard maybe? I guess the left it open on purpose. Some of the action looked more like a video game cut scene. And the ended fell flat. "I was promised a dance" - End. The movie literally just stops. While the romance felt more rushed than even Thor, it had more emotion as Cap was crashing. I really felt sorry for them. I still feel I liked Thor and First Class more. Let's hope the don't mess up Avengers.
What do you mean the romance felt more rushed than Thor? They knew each other for 2 to 3 years.

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What do you mean the romance felt more rushed than Thor? They knew each other for 2 to 3 years.
I don't remember them saying how long they knew each other. They met for a little bit, they parted ways for how ever long Cap was doing those tours, then they met up again towards the end.

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Now that I think about it, do you think that the element that Tony created in IM2 was an artificial Cosmic Cube? His dad was last seen in Captain America finding the Cube. I'm guessing that he spent his life studying it, failing to replicate its power, only to entrust his son to finding the solution with the clues he left for him.

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Now that I think about it, do you think that the element that Tony created in IM2 was an artificial Cosmic Cube? His dad was last seen in Captain America finding the Cube. I'm guessing that he spent his life studying it, failing to replicate its power, only to entrust his son to finding the solution with the clues he left for him.
There's another guy on CBM (unless you're him hehe) that speculates the same thing. I think that would be crazy awesome if true, talk about fridge brilliance.

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Now that I think about it, do you think that the element that Tony created in IM2 was an artificial Cosmic Cube? His dad was last seen in Captain America finding the Cube. I'm guessing that he spent his life studying it, failing to replicate its power, only to entrust his son to finding the solution with the clues he left for him.
I believe we saw what was the first of 'arc reactor' technology in Cap. The battery device that Zola First makes in his lab that taps in and siphoned some of the cubes energies for a basically endless power supply for his designs is the precursor to what we see in Ironman. Steve taking the sample from the POW mission is what led Howard to begin all his modern work. If you look in his notebook (special features in IM2) you'll note the Tesseract studies, and his trying to replicate that single speck that blew up in his face at the lab ("Write that down")
Up until IM2 he was "limited by the technology of his time" but having the cube and/or the energy sample, he had high hopes that Tony would succeed where he could not, and left him clues.( as i'm sure the element composition was of a classified/dangerous nature.)
Fortune would have it that for Tony, it was necessary to save his own life, for him to succefully replicate that element.
(I guess up to that point, Palladium was the closest substitute that Howard/Tony found worked best to approximate the "cube" element)
That's just my theory.
I also found it interesting that in the POW factory, the huge round devices the HYDRA goons are lugging around, basically look like larger scale versions of the device Tony has in his chest.

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Heh... they kinda looked like the Pyro from TF2, the flame-thrower troopers kinda hammered it in, too.

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I believe we saw what was the first of 'arc reactor' technology in Cap. The battery device that Zola First makes in his lab that taps in and siphoned some of the cubes energies for a basically endless power supply for his designs is the precursor to what we see in Ironman. Steve taking the sample from the POW mission is what led Howard to begin all his modern work. If you look in his notebook (special features in IM2) you'll note the Tesseract studies, and his trying to replicate that single speck that blew up in his face at the lab ("Write that down")
Up until IM2 he was "limited by the technology of his time" but having the cube and/or the energy sample, he had high hopes that Tony would succeed where he could not, and left him clues.( as i'm sure the element composition was of a classified/dangerous nature.)
Fortune would have it that for Tony, it was necessary to save his own life, for him to succefully replicate that element.
(I guess up to that point, Palladium was the closest substitute that Howard/Tony found worked best to approximate the "cube" element)
That's just my theory.
I also found it interesting that in the POW factory, the huge round devices the HYDRA goons are lugging around, basically look like larger scale versions of the device Tony has in his chest.
Yes, I was thinking of something along those lines. But I'm ashamed to say that I have not really thought nor researched how the Arc Reactors are supposed to work.
Are they supposed to be like a radioactive fusion reactor of some sort?

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When she met him again during his USO tour to the end of the movie covers something like the last 2-3 years of the war. It's done in montage but that's happening over years.

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Speaking of the Starks...I've been thinking.

How friggin old was Tony's Dad when Tony was born? Stark looked...maybe 21 at the youngest (and that's pushing it. I figured him to be at least 25). Tony's 45 at the most. If Cap went down at the end of the war...Stark Sr. must have still been at least around 50 when Tony was born.

Sounds to me like baby Tony was an "oops" baby.

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Speaking of the Starks...I've been thinking.

How friggin old was Tony's Dad when Tony was born? Stark looked...maybe 21 at the youngest (and that's pushing it. I figured him to be at least 25). Tony's 45 at the most. If Cap went down at the end of the war...Stark Sr. must have still been at least around 50 when Tony was born.

Sounds to me like baby Tony was an "oops" baby.
Or Stark pulled a Larry King

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Or Stark pulled a Larry King
That also seems like a very real possibility.

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Speaking of the Starks...I've been thinking.

How friggin old was Tony's Dad when Tony was born? Stark looked...maybe 21 at the youngest (and that's pushing it. I figured him to be at least 25). Tony's 45 at the most. If Cap went down at the end of the war...Stark Sr. must have still been at least around 50 when Tony was born.

Sounds to me like baby Tony was an "oops" baby.
I got the sense that Howard Stark was pretty much a wunderkind, like Tony, and flew right through school like his son later would. He had a real carefree, playboy vibe about him in TFA, which leads me to believe he was a twentysomething. I'm going to guess maybe 25 at the most. Do we know anything about Howard Stark's father? Maybe the Starks were already rich, so Howard didn't have to worry about building a fortune--he already had one, he just multiplied it by a huge number.

Anyway, if he's, say, 25 at the end of TFA, and Tony is around 40 in IM1/IM2 (my own supposition), that means Tony would have been born in or around 1968, which would have made Howard around 48 by the time Tony was born. That's not outside the realm of possibility; Howard certainly sounds like the type who would have been completely focused on his inventions and his business, and probably hadn't planned on having any children. Much like Tony, actually: at the age of 40 he was still single and childless, and in IM1 he didn't seem too interested in doing anything to change that.

Howard also appeared to be in his early-to-mid 50s during the first Stark Expo in 1974, so maybe Howard was born in 1920.

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Speaking of the Starks...I've been thinking.

How friggin old was Tony's Dad when Tony was born? Stark looked...maybe 21 at the youngest (and that's pushing it. I figured him to be at least 25). Tony's 45 at the most. If Cap went down at the end of the war...Stark Sr. must have still been at least around 50 when Tony was born.

Sounds to me like baby Tony was an "oops" baby.
I'm 54....my daughter is 4.......

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Speaking of the Starks...I've been thinking.

How friggin old was Tony's Dad when Tony was born? Stark looked...maybe 21 at the youngest (and that's pushing it. I figured him to be at least 25). Tony's 45 at the most. If Cap went down at the end of the war...Stark Sr. must have still been at least around 50 when Tony was born.

Sounds to me like baby Tony was an "oops" baby.
That has always bothered me since the films first mentioned Tony's father being involved in the SS program during WWII. Maybe they should have went with Grandfather instead of Father.
Good thing we got a revolution of Marvel films this decade rather than later or they could never get away with that idea.

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That has always bothered me since the films first mentioned Tony's father being involved in the SS program during WWII. Maybe they should have went with Grandfather instead of Father.
Good thing we got a revolution of Marvel films this decade rather than later or they could never get away with that idea.
It's not unrealistic that Howard Stark was involved in WWII yet fathered a child in the late 60s. Even if he had been 35 in 1945, he would only have been 55 in 1965. Plenty of men father children into their fifties, sixties and beyond, so that is not unrealistic. Sometimes it seems that the richer a man is, the longer he goes on having children. Many billionaires keep churning out kids with their younger wives up through their golden years.

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Howard had some grey hair in that film during IM2, LOL!!!

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