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Old 04-17-2018, 11:32 AM   #26
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you cray cray if you thought she was ever going to be running around in a bikini.
Oh!!! But she can run around in short satin mini skirt and high hooker boots?? And I’m cray cray??

Naww. I’m not looking for a bikini. Maybe s body suit like Voyager’s 7 of Nine wore would make more sense.


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Old 04-17-2018, 11:36 AM   #27
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Starfire isn't human, and her not being orange isn't a dealbreaker imo. Its everything else that's bad. But we're talking about an orange alien, it shouldn't matter what color the actress underneath is.
If she isn’t human, her NOT LOOKING HUMAN makes even more sense, don’t you think?? Zoe Saldana goes green for Gamora and blue in Avatar. There is no reason to not stay true to the character and give her that orange skin

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you cray cray if you thought she was ever going to be running around in a bikini.
True,her comic attire would never pass on TV in USA.

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If she isn’t human, her NOT LOOKING HUMAN makes even more sense, don’t you think?? Zoe Saldana goes green for Gamora and blue in Avatar. There is no reason to not stay true to the character and give her that orange skin
I'd rather have the orange skin too. All I'm saying is the race of the actor under the orange skin should be irrelevant.

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starfire isn't human, and her not being orange isn't a dealbreaker imo. Its everything else that's bad. But we're talking about an orange alien, it shouldn't matter what color the actress underneath is.
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Oh!!! But she can run around in short satin mini skirt and high hooker boots?? And I’m cray cray??

Naww. I’m not looking for a bikini. Maybe s body suit like Voyager’s 7 of Nine wore would make more sense.
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I'd rather have the orange skin too. All I'm saying is the race of the actor under the orange skin should be irrelevant.
CORRECT! It’s NOT about race! It’s about doing it the right way!

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Old 04-18-2018, 10:10 PM   #32
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the race of the actress isn't important to me either, but the orange skin IS a dealbreaker ( hence why the race isn't important - they should be made to look orange skin via makeup, cgi, or whatever means ).

if Star isn't orange, then it isn't Starfire, imo.

same with Beast Boy - he's green or it's not Beast Boy.

Starfire isn't black or latina or white or asian. She's an orange skinned alien who's supposed to be drop-dead gorgeous. the actress playing her can be any ethnicity, but as Starfire, she needs to be orange skinned. cuz that's who the character is.

this isn't some detail like the proper hair color, which isn't always adhered to. no, this is a distinct visual characteristic of the character we're talking about.

if you can't translate it properly to the screen, then don't bother using said character. I get that a tv budget ( let alone a streaming only show ) isn't as high as a blockbuster movie budget like Guardians of the Galaxy. but there are plenty of alien/sci-fi tv shows that do feature different looking alien characters and creatures. So, don't tell me it's impossible.

And Starfire isn't some shapeshifter like Martian Manhunter or Miss Martian or Mystique, so you can't go the route of Supergirl where she has a human disguise and then her alien form where she's the proper skin color. That's a cheap cop-out that fundamentally changes the character.

the only way that would work is if there's some external factor. like a tech device modulator that makes her ( and Beast Boy ) look "normal skin." or Raven casts a spell on them that makes them look normal. And maybe that's the particular context of those set pics. but outside of that, there's no reason for Starfire or Beast Boy to have normal looking skin on the show, without fundamentally changing the characters.

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Old 04-19-2018, 04:10 AM   #33
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I'd rather have the orange skin too. All I'm saying is the race of the actor under the orange skin should be irrelevant.
Well said absolutly correct with all your post's on this thread here. that said it is weird that I've seen good cosplayer ( I said good one's notthe steriotipical midset people have)do work that the dc tv makers aren't willing to hire those people for to help make these shows it's just weird. BT I think I found some ting (Via some on on my twitter)that put abit of the issue to rest



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Old 04-19-2018, 01:41 PM   #34
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I have saw someone say that the hair is place holder for cgi not sure if that is true or not but that's the only issue I have with this look.

As for as the actress skin. Like others said it doesn't matter what race place the role as long the character is orange/gold.

I am certain that they will have her orange/gold otherwise what was the point of having an open ethnicity for the role.

Now I see a lot people say they should of paint her like how marvel did with gamora. I tend to agree with this but have to remember Anna has darker skin then zoe so maybe they did try but it didn't look good so they going cgi instead. Plus gamora is fighter didn't need much cgi while starfire is more cgi heavy with her powers.

For all we know this show might have a bigger budget than other TV shows.

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the race of the actress isn't important to me either, but the orange skin IS a dealbreaker ( hence why the race isn't important - they should be made to look orange skin via makeup, cgi, or whatever means ).

if Star isn't orange, then it isn't Starfire, imo.

same with Beast Boy - he's green or it's not Beast Boy.

Starfire isn't black or latina or white or asian. She's an orange skinned alien who's supposed to be drop-dead gorgeous. the actress playing her can be any ethnicity, but as Starfire, she needs to be orange skinned. cuz that's who the character is.

this isn't some detail like the proper hair color, which isn't always adhered to. no, this is a distinct visual characteristic of the character we're talking about.

if you can't translate it properly to the screen, then don't bother using said character. I get that a tv budget ( let alone a streaming only show ) isn't as high as a blockbuster movie budget like Guardians of the Galaxy. but there are plenty of alien/sci-fi tv shows that do feature different looking alien characters and creatures. So, don't tell me it's impossible.

And Starfire isn't some shapeshifter like Martian Manhunter or Miss Martian or Mystique, so you can't go the route of Supergirl where she has a human disguise and then her alien form where she's the proper skin color. That's a cheap cop-out that fundamentally changes the character.

the only way that would work is if there's some external factor. like a tech device modulator that makes her ( and Beast Boy ) look "normal skin." or Raven casts a spell on them that makes them look normal. And maybe that's the particular context of those set pics. but outside of that, there's no reason for Starfire or Beast Boy to have normal looking skin on the show, without fundamentally changing the characters.
You’re right! She’s not Asian, black , white or Latina. SHES ORANGE!! She’s an ORANGE ALIEN space chick!! So do it right or leave her out!!

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Betting this is like Polaris and her green hair in GIFTED. She might "evolve" into orange skin somehow. That or they have "secret identities".

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Betting this is like Polaris and her green hair in GIFTED. She might "evolve" into orange skin somehow. That or they have "secret identities".
Robin is also wearing regular clothes in the set photos. It could all just be them in their civilian identities.

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Starfire, in my opinion, is one of those characters who wouldn't translate well into live action no matter who played her.

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Tell that to gamora, nebula, beast, nightcrawler, and mystique. Its doable. They just did it badly. Imo

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Old 04-25-2018, 08:04 AM   #40
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Oh!!! But she can run around in short satin mini skirt and high hooker boots?? And I’m cray cray??

Naww. I’m not looking for a bikini. Maybe s body suit like Voyager’s 7 of Nine wore would make more sense.
The best you were ever going to get is the sleeveless, backless, capeless, purple version of Supergirl's costume, with some cleavage, which by all appearances that costume is shaping up to be

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Tell that to gamora, nebula, beast, nightcrawler, and mystique. Its doable. They just did it badly. Imo
I mean, Titans is a tv show not a movie so the bugdet is different so ovbiously, you can't expect the same result.

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I mean, Titans is a tv show not a movie so the bugdet is different so ovbiously, you can't expect the same result.
Tell that to buffy, angel, the walking dead, star trek, black mirror, Grimm, smallville, krypton etc. You mean to tell me they cant afford to paint someone orange? How about when cosplayers who do it? I'm not picking on you I'm just saying it really doesn't seem like because its TV its completely unaffordable to paint someone orange. If she was allergic to the process or just refuses to do it.

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Old 04-30-2018, 04:42 AM   #43
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I mean, Titans is a tv show not a movie so the bugdet is different so ovbiously, you can't expect the same result.
With game of thrones, stranger things, altered carbon, westworld, and so many great looking sci fi shows out there, that is no longer a valid excuse. tv has changed and can sometimes rival big budget films.. its just that some networks are cheap and others are not. streaming services generally strive to premium cable standards. theres nothing 'premium' looking about these costumes.

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With game of thrones, stranger things, altered carbon, westworld, and so many great looking sci fi shows out there, that is no longer a valid excuse. tv has changed and can sometimes rival big budget films.. its just that some networks are cheap and others are not. streaming services generally strive to premium cable standards. theres nothing 'premium' looking about these costumes.
The thing is, GoT, ST and other show that you mentioned, were made by HBO/Netflix, which are successful and ... loaded.

I do want this streaming service to have a good production value but we can't expect them to give us something other channels made years to achieve. It is after all, their first live action show.

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