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Old 01-17-2018, 12:29 PM   #1
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Default In nuce, why "Logan" is set in an alternate universe - 10 points

Why "Logan" is an alternate reality:

1- Old Man Logan killed the scientists in his version of the WX Program. Our Logan never did that in "Apocalypse", he slaughtered the soldiers.
2- There was no Transigen-Alkali in "Apocalypse".
3- There was no adamantium bullet in "Apocalypse". In the original timeline, the adamantium bullet was already used anyway, not available anymore.
4- There are mutant children in the school, at the ending of DOFP (2023). This means mutant births didn't stop in 2004, I mean in the mainstream X-Men universe.
5- "Deadpool" (set in 2016) never hints at a "lack of mutant births".
6- In DOFP Phoenix is alive. In the deleted scene of "Logan", Old Man Logan talks about killing Jean and his remorse.
7- They never talk about the time-travelling issue.
8- Caliban is totally different.
9- Logan is supposed to have been "masked and costumed" in his X-Man days.
10- Charles is 90 years old in "Logan" (2029). In the mainstream X-Men universe, he is born in 1932.

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Old 01-21-2018, 02:06 PM   #2
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This is awesome!

But what I wonder is what general audiences think is going on with X-Men and when (if ever) they'll catch up to either the present or the future. They're going on the 5th movie in the past, but we sometimes jump to future stories like that of Deadpool, X-23 (in Logan) and now New Mutants and Cable (in Deadpool2). It needs to tie in somewhere and it needs some direct explaining and what you just explained could be stated briefly by Fox writers/producers at comic con or in an interview.

Man, I was really peeved when Shuler Donner said Days of Future Past would lead to Apocalypse (which, for us X-geeks, meant playing with time would awaken Apocalypse from his slumber) but the link between them just wasn't very clear to me!

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Old 04-14-2018, 05:51 AM   #3
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This is awesome!

But what I wonder is what general audiences think is going on with X-Men and when (if ever) they'll catch up to either the present or the future. They're going on the 5th movie in the past, but we sometimes jump to future stories like that of Deadpool, X-23 (in Logan) and now New Mutants and Cable (in Deadpool2). It needs to tie in somewhere and it needs some direct explaining and what you just explained could be stated briefly by Fox writers/producers at comic con or in an interview.

I just think Cable comes from the future-future.

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Old 04-14-2018, 02:14 PM   #4
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Why "Logan" is an alternate reality:

1- Old Man Logan killed the scientists in his version of the WX Program. Our Logan never did that in "Apocalypse", he slaughtered the soldiers.
2- There was no Transigen-Alkali in "Apocalypse".
3- There was no adamantium bullet in "Apocalypse". In the original timeline, the adamantium bullet was already used anyway, not available anymore.
4- There are mutant children in the school, at the ending of DOFP (2023). This means mutant births didn't stop in 2004, I mean in the mainstream X-Men universe.
5- "Deadpool" (set in 2016) never hints at a "lack of mutant births".
6- In DOFP Phoenix is alive. In the deleted scene of "Logan", Old Man Logan talks about killing Jean and his remorse.
7- They never talk about the time-travelling issue.
8- Caliban is totally different.
9- Logan is supposed to have been "masked and costumed" in his X-Man days.
10- Charles is 90 years old in "Logan" (2029). In the mainstream X-Men universe, he is born in 1932.
Just because I like counterpointing even though I mostly agree.

1- He may have killed a scientist during a previous break out attempt.
2- Transigen-Alkali is said to be a subsidiary company, it could be owned by Nathan Essex nonetheless.
3- Is it so unbelievable there'd be multiple bullets?
4-5- In Deadpool, the mutants are "created" by Ajax's program. The mutant children at Xavier's school were likely all "created". The line by Logan referred to mutants made by natural birth.
6- DELETE!
7- It is kind of a weird thing to talk about.
8- Caliban mentions there as being another Caliban.
9- He's believed to have been, may never actually have been.
10- He's in his 90s, he's not strictly 90. That's what nonagenarian means.

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Old 04-15-2018, 05:32 AM   #5
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8- Caliban mentions there as being another Caliban.
Really? Where?

All in all, "Logan" could be placed in the original timeline out of the 3 timelines.

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Old 04-15-2018, 07:28 PM   #6
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Really? Where?

All in all, "Logan" could be placed in the original timeline out of the 3 timelines.
He has the line, "I think you're thinking of someone else." Or something to that degree, which instead of a lazy excuse to sort out a continuity error, could actually suggest that at one point there could've been multiple Calibans and the name was a title given to similar mutants made by some organization with the purpose of tracking down mutants. The Caliban that Pierce was associating Logan's Caliban with could honestly just be another Caliban.

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