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Old 08-12-2017, 05:35 PM   #676
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Old 08-12-2017, 05:52 PM   #678
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For the last time it was here on the Hype and I imagine on other places Snyder fanboys post too. He said WW board.
LOL. No need to get upset. And seriously, I haven't seen "Snyder fanboys" anywhere try to take Patty down a few notches. If all of five guys "on the Hype" did it, that means zip to me.

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LOL. No need to get upset. And seriously, I haven't seen "Snyder fanboys" anywhere try to take Patty down a few notches. If all of five guys "on the Hype" did it, that means zip to me.
I mean come on, we pointed out the place. I'd be more than happy to find the posts but there are too many to go through

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It does feel like a massive anti-climax. If even half of these rumors are true it's proof that Snyder just pulled a BvS again.

After BvS we kept getting these quotes that JL was "naturally going to be lighter" from WB execs, Snyder, Affleck. If that's the case, why the **** would they need reshoots to make it lighter? Wasn't that the original plan?
Its is because with someone like Snyder, his lighter is different to most others take. It is so clear. He doesn't get these characters, their world, at all. With MoS he had a leash. Once that was gone, look at the results.

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It doesn't work for her. Why her being a completely different character in WW worked so well.

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I mean come on, we pointed out the place. I'd be more than happy to find the posts but there are too many to go through
Well, if you don't want to produce any examples, that's your problem. Saying it was "on the Hype" is like saying "I saw it on Twitter, I saw it on Screen Rant, I saw it scratched in the tile next to the urinal."

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It does feel like a massive anti-climax. If even half of these rumors are true it's proof that Snyder just pulled a BvS again.

After BvS we kept getting these quotes that JL was "naturally going to be lighter" from WB execs, Snyder, Affleck. If that's the case, why the **** would they need reshoots to make it lighter? Wasn't that the original plan?
It is entirely possible that Snyder's interpretation of 'lighter' isn't quite as uplifting and positive as what everyone else's interpretation is. I think the main issue is that Snyder's style is at odds with the idea of championing positive themes. He likes desaturated and high contrasting images, and prefers ideas that delve into the darker side of who people are. That just doesn't mesh with these type of characters. Snyder might have liked these characters a lot, but I don't think he's ever really known how to portray them positively. If I was to hazard a guess at what's happened, Snyder tried to make a more uplifting movie with lots of WB oversight, and when it became abundantly clear it wasn't working Whedon was brought in. Coupled with the changes they were making on the fly and it's not hard to see how we got to where we are.

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Where were these early reviews? Everything I read contained accolades for Patty.

Zack deserves some, too. He cast Gal, and everyone dumped on him — and Gal.

In fact, I recall a lot of dumping on Gal in this thread re: her acting ability, or lack thereof. Of course, that all changed once the movie came out.
Shows you how bad a director Snyder can be. He made a decent actor look crap. He took someone who should be inspiring, earnest and hopeful, and made them play dourer, because that is all he has.

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The "dumping" on her acting ability was completely justified, IMO. Wonder Woman is the first movie where I liked her acting.

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Gal Gadot's acting was always bad, Patty Jenkins just found a way to work around it but she's still a liability. Gadot only worked well on the comedic scenes like the baby moment, she fell flat on all the others and was lucky to have Chris Pine there to support her.

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And now we're back again to complaining about Gadot's acting.... How many times does she have to receive universal acclaim in this part before people finally shut up about her being a so-called "liability"?

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Look, I'll eat crow about Gal in WW. I thought she was going to be a trainwreck, but she was decent. I mean look at her body of work and the trailers didn't do her any favors. Jenkins found a way to make it all work but let's not start thinking she is the second coming.

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And now we're back again to complaining about Gadot's acting.... How many times does she have to receive universal acclaim in this part before people finally shut up about her being a so-called "liability"?
I will say she got a lot of help from Jenkins who is a much better director than Snyder and probably guided her along, plus from Pine who she had great chemistry with and who could help carry the picture. But yes, it does seem odd people are still ragging on her as a liability if she already proved, for whatever reasons, she can carry a whole movie. In this case, it would seem the problem is not Gal but, uh, someone else.... Not going to say who, but I think we all could wager a guess.

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When it comes to Gal in WW too many mistake competence for excellence. Which goes for the movie as a whole as well.

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Cavill is the one who has suffered from Snyder the most.

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And now we're back again to complaining about Gadot's acting.... How many times does she have to receive universal acclaim in this part before people finally shut up about her being a so-called "liability"?
She played a well written character in a good movie and it seems like a lot of people have trouble separating that from her actual performance. She is a liability because she has to heavily rely on good direction to give a serviceable performance. It's not like they have any other choice now anyway but it would have been much easier to simply cast a better actress.

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Considering her background, I thought Gal did very well for this being her first feature film in a leading role. As far as I know she didn't go to some fancy acting school or work her way up through plays/smaller movies. She kind of fell into acting because she's ridiculously gorgeous. In terms of acting experience she's more like a 20 year old actress trying to work her way up, she just happened to land a big time role early.

I'd say she was solid overall in Wonder Woman, which is about what you would hope for coming from an actress with little experience. Obviously she has a great deal of improving to do but this is a great start. I was very skeptical when she was cast and she didn't blow me away, but she won me over enough to not complain about her performance.

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I suspect her bad acting will stand out again in JL, without a whole movie written around her strengths and weaknesses. That's what makes her a liability. Compare that to a solid actor like Affleck who did fine even with atrocious writing in BVS.

I just don't see anything in Gadot that justifies them choosing a lesser actress. Going off looks alone isn't good enough, imo. Someone on the caliber of Scarjo as Black Widow would have been better. She's never been the focus of any movie yet has been developed very well and was an excellent character especially in TA and TWS. She's actually a strength and brings something to the movie whereas Gadot needs to be handled very carefully so her weaknesses don't stand out.

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Nah, Gadot was great in WW, she may not be a great actress but she nailed that role, and she is certainly better than dour Affleck and Cavill mugging the screen in BvS.

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