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Old 01-28-2014, 09:39 AM   #1
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I'll start by saying that Star Wars trully doesn't need a reboot right now, but it doesn't mather if it will take 50 years, Star Wars will eventually be rebooted, expecially now that it's no longer in Lucas's hands, so, when that happens, how should they proceed with it? We are already going to get spin-offs set in various eras from what it seems, so, like with Star Trek, the reboot will go back to the original trio of characters.

So here's how i think it could work:

1) Go back to the original concept of the saga and mix the old serial type of adventures with an epic tale. At the time the original films were being made, there was a restriction due to technology, so they had to inventent new techniques.



With that in mind there is a lot that you can do now, However new films sometimes lack control and don't hold back with their action, leading to a lot of gratuitous moments where you put the palm of you hand in your face thinking: "how could they get out of there without a scratch? This makes no sence". Control is definitelly something a film like this would need.

Something this would have in favor against the original is a proper budget, the original had many restrictions, this time you would have more than enough money to make something new and grand in scope, while still keeping the realism and humanity of the original Trilogy intact.



2) Han is the protagonist as much as Luke. Well, probably not as much since we don't follow him since the very begining, but the focus should be on him almost as equally, this is something that worked in the Star Trek reboot's favor, aknowledging that Spock, easily the most iconic ST character, was the protagonist too.

This way, both offer a different type of view to the universe, Luke and Obi-Wan open us to the world of the force, with more fantasy and Arthurian elements, as well as an epic and mysterious athmosphere, while Han is the more grounded world most are used to live at the time, which is pretty much like the old Pulp magazines and Serial adventures.

The relationship between the main trio of Luke/ Han/ Leia is also important, once she is introduced, Leia should become one of the main protagonists too, opening the world of politics and the Rebellion itself. In this new saga she should probably get something more to do too, possibly even joining in the action across the death star.

3) Do not redo and let out dead weight. Reinterpret the original saga, but don't try remaking key elements like the famous "i am your father", i will talk about more of that later, so let's go on to something that should be rédone, the designs.

Go back to the old designs and you see lots of things that weren't done due to budget or technical problems, like C3PO



But let's go on to the most iconic of them all. Darth Vader.

You can not use the same design, However it's so iconic, how do you do something half as amazing as the original one? Well, if you look back at some of the original art there's your answer:







Here, the character keeps his original look, while still being almost a new character of his oun.

Now, what did i mean with dead weight? Leia being Vader's daughter for example, that made her relationship with Luke a bit more weird, and it was obviously not Lucas's original intentions, so, instead of redoing that, they should keep it simple. Which brings me to...

4) Keep it simple, Star Wars starts as a simple story, you can have some subplots in the background, but the core of the saga should remain an easy to follow adventure.

5) Unique look and use of technology. Lets face it, films nowadays have massive budgets, that along with new technology should make it easier for filmmakers to bring more new things, we barelly see that, Gravity did this without a budget as big as the likes of Thor or Battleship.

With what you have today we can go back to some of the older McQuarrie art, where there was this mysterious and pulpy aura about the story







So, a visiunary director is needed for this film, hopefully somebody who will not follow the usual trend for Hollywood movies, a lot of talent can be found with the likes of Cuaron, instead of going with the most obvious directors that are popular at the time like they did now with J.J.Abrams.

Another important thing is Technology, a Star Wars film should feel like an event, so whoever goes behind it needs to be creative and serious about the next steps in filmmaking, like Cameron and Peter Jackson tried to be with Avatar and Hobbit.

Only around one or two fights would involve lightsabers, and they wouldn't last too long, only the time they needed to. I imagine some stuff with Han repairing his ship in space of things like that, shot with modern technology.

6) Get a great writer who's restrained with his writing by not going over long and drawn out action scenes, and who can keep the sence of joy in the saga, while upgrading it if possible. Two words i don't want to hear from this reboot: "gritty" and "edgy".

Luke's development would also need to be a little faster, in the first film, he could even know a thing or two about swordsmanship.

Not every force wielding being needs a lightsaber, Yoda and Palpatine should already be beyond that.

7) The Trilogy.

Now, the idea would be for a trilogy, but like the original did, each film would work as a stand alone too, having its oun plot. The first film would be very similar to the original, but with Luke possibly finding out about his father and Vader either having an interest in finding him, or having tried for many years. Several changes to the mythos could be made too, and that would certainly lead to some changes in the plot as well.

The sequel wouldn't be Empire Strikes Back all over again, but possibly draw from it and Splinters of the Mind's Eye, going the Godfather II route with showcasing Anakin's downfall in flashbacks. Boba Fett would possibly play a larger role, being even more of the films antagonist, while still having Vader as mostly the front threat.

The third film would incorporate some of the original ideas



Like Han sacrificing himself and Luke leaving in a "man with no name" fashion after the Rebellion has won the war.

So here it is, i'm not saying we need a Star Wars reboot, this is an idea of what i think it should like if there ever is one.

Anybody else wants to give ideas or their oun input?

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Old 03-07-2014, 09:11 AM   #2
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In my opinion, Star Wars is a franchise that should never be rebooted. It should remain as is, untouched because it's a masterpiece.

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Preferably never, but if so, I say just use Dark Horse's The Star Wars as the basis for it.

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The original trilogy should never be rebooted. Ever.

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Old 04-03-2014, 05:02 PM   #5
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40 years from now, they will most likely reboot it. Making movies will probably be a lot quicker and faster to make for less money. Since Hollywood is already running out of ideas today, in 40 years there will be more reboots than ever before.
May 2054 release of the Phantom Menace reboot.
May 2055 - Attack of the clones reboot
May 2056 - Revenge of the Sith reboot
May 2057 - A New Hope reboot
May 2058 - Empire Strikes Back reboot
May 2059 - Return of the Jedi reboot.

It was 30 years between when star trek the motion picture was released in 1979 and the 2009 star trek reboot. But I will play it safe and say in 40 years we will see a a star wars reboot.

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40 years from now, they will most likely reboot it. Making movies will probably be a lot quicker and faster to make for less money. Since Hollywood is already running out of ideas today, in 40 years there will be more reboots than ever before.
May 2054 release of the Phantom Menace reboot.
May 2055 - Attack of the clones reboot
May 2056 - Revenge of the Sith reboot
May 2057 - A New Hope reboot
May 2058 - Empire Strikes Back reboot
May 2059 - Return of the Jedi reboot.

It was 30 years between when star trek the motion picture was released in 1979 and the 2009 star trek reboot. But I will play it safe and say in 40 years we will see a a star wars reboot.
I can see the House of Mouse at least waiting till Lucas keels over, just to show that they possess some courtesy, before rebooting the franchise, frankly.

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Man, I miss the days before people knew the "r" word.

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Old 04-05-2014, 06:24 PM   #8
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Man, I miss the days before people knew the "r" word.
Because you three obviously didn't read my original post, here's an abridged version of what's important:

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I'll start by saying that Star Wars trully doesn't need a reboot right now, but it doesn't mather if it will take 50 years, Star Wars will eventually be rebooted, expecially now that it's no longer in Lucas's hands, so, when that happens, how should they proceed with it? We are already going to get spin-offs set in various eras from what it seems, so, like with Star Trek, the reboot will go back to the original trio of characters.

So here it is, i'm not saying we need a Star Wars reboot, this is an idea of what i think it should like if there ever is one.

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As someone who is not at all against reboots (I actually love Amazing Spider-Man, Incredible Hulk, Batman Begins, Dredd, Rise of the Planet of the Apes, Abrams Star Trek, etc. In a lot of cases more than the originals) I think Star Wars works just fine as a continuing series of books, movies and video games and that there is enough room for over 100 years of content before the idea of a reboot should even be addressed.

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Because you obviously didn't read my post, I'll repeat it.

I miss the days before people knew the "r" word.


Look, I'll make it clearer. You ever watch Godzilla movies? How about James Bond films? You do realize that those franchises have both spanned many, many decades without ever having or needing an overt "reboot". But then Batman Begins was made and people start throwing that word around everywhere you turn.

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Because you obviously didn't read my post, I'll repeat it.

I miss the days before people knew the "r" word.


Look, I'll make it clearer. You ever watch Godzilla movies? How about James Bond films? You do realize that those franchises have both spanned many, many decades without ever having or needing an overt "reboot". But then Batman Begins was made and people start throwing that word around everywhere you turn.
I did read it, it was waaaaaaaaaay too short not to be read, even if i was only reading posts in passing, i guess that misinterpreting would be the best expression.

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The dissolution of the EU ensured that they will not have to reboot within our lifetimes.

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Star Wars is one of the most timeless properties that exists. I don't think a reboot will ever be necessary due to that.

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I do not ever want to see a reboot to the original six movies.

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Old 04-23-2014, 05:52 AM   #15
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For me?

Episode One: The Phantom Menace should have revealed that the Jedi of the Republic were separated into various orders, the greatest are literal aristocrats ala Dooku and they were at odds with the Monastic Orders led by Yoda and Windu who have differing views on what the Force should be repesented.

The noble born Jedi believe themselves the best suited to lead so to correct the misunderstood views of the other orders so they recognise the truth of their perceived destiny a shadow order long identified as the "Sith" so they could remain undiscovered as they dealt with the enemies of their leaders.

One of the Noble Families is assassinated as a precursor to their plans to bring down the non-noble orders with the lover of one member being mind wiped and sent into slavery by the man who betrayed them we would know him to be Palpatine and a rising star in the "Sith" Order.

Unknown to him that woman was pregnant to the child we'd later know to be Anakin Skywalker.

Dooku's former apprentice stumbles onto information indicating his former master is colluding with a secret order of assassins and is targetted by Palpatine's apprentice Maul.

Having left Dooku to study with Yoda's sect he's become more interested in the "Living Force" and uninterested in the politicking of his original master.
He requests the aid of a failed Jedi student who chose to enter the Republic Military a young man we know as Obi-Wan Kenobi whose commands his own unit but is disgruntled to be Qui-gonn's bodyguard until Maul attacks.

Barely escaping with the aging Jedi Diplomat he ends up helping him contact the Naboo underworld learning that the Trade Federation had Naboo's ruler assassinated and has been secretly enslaving the populace so they can strip the resources of this garden water world.

Obi-Wan helps the Naboo Princess to escape as it was the only way to get Qui-gonn to leave they end up stopping at tattoine afetr the ship takes damage.

Obi ends up asking for help from his estranged brother where we learn the Jedi have an awful habit of kidnapping suitable Jedi candidates with the aid of the Republic something the general public abhor and fear.

Qui-gonn ends up in a bet with the local supplier of starship parts on a race where Obi meets Anakin who Qui-gonn recognises because of the family resemblance (no midichlorian rubbish ok?!).

Anakin wins the race and even though the Hutt who rules the world tries to declare Anakin cheated Obi manages to get Watto to keep his bet and repair their ship and even helps his brother free Anakin's mother whilst they end up fleeing with Anakin when Maul turns up because the race was being televised beyond the system.

Palpatine recognises Anakin's mother and in episode 2 he arranges her murder pinning the blame on the Sand People...

They reach Coruscant where the Trade Federation is forced to free Naboo and Palpatine uses that to give him time to cover up Maul's actions.

Returning to Naboo, Maul makes a final attempt to restore his reputation and manages to kill Qui-gonn but is thought killed by Obi-Wan who realises they were being tracked by someone in the Republic Military so resigns his commission and is accepted into Windu's Order which we learn is because Yoda recommends him to Windu himself.

Anakin at this point has been accepted by Dooku and is being trained on Coruscant eventually joins the military as a pilot as Palpatine uses him to cover up the machinations that killed Anakin's family.

Episode 2: Attack of the Clones
The Republic is in dire straits as the various member states have recalled their forces to counter the rise of the droid forces being built and deployed by the Trade Federation and other Corporate Organisations.

Obi-Wan meets Anakin a decade after they first met and Obi ends up being reenlisted in the Republic Military after an attempt to kill the Naboo Queen leads to them meeting the Naboo princess who we learn chose to become a Senator after Palpatine used his influence to succeed Valorum as Chancellor.

Tracking the assassin they discover the Archives of the Republic has been deliberately altered hiding evidence of both what Dooku and Palpatine's "Sith" have been doing out on the Rim.
Investigating what they assume is the origin of the exotic weapon one of the assassin's were using Obi-Wan brings Anakin along to side step republic red tape since as an aspiring noble he has ready access to a ship and can travel to the Outer Rim whereas all other traffic is heavily regulated.

Their investigation uncovers the Clone Army of which Dooku seems to have been the main creator behind as the riots back in the Republic causes secession threats and to counter that Dooku summons his Clone Army even as Obi and Anakin barely escape to warn the rest of the Republic.

They get back just in time to discover Palpatine secretly helped organise the Separatists so Dooku's Army has someone specific and reviled to fight so the rest of the Republic rally behind him.

Anakin although being trained by Obi as his apprentice is secretly Dooku's spy and begins training as a apprentice to palpatine who begins his plan to topple Dooku and turn the Republic into his Empire.

This movie ends with the threat of war looming and Obi-Wan's success means Dooku is moving against the Monastic Orders as well as the Separatists and with his apprentice actually serving Dooku and Palpatine this should mirror Empire Strikes Back ending...

Will continue this later...


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Old 04-29-2014, 04:42 PM   #16
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I don't believe it will ever be rebooted the way we're used to. With episode 7-9 coming, I expect the formula to continue that way. Maybe another creative mind will handle episode 10-12. And then we'll get episode 13-15 etc. No reboot of 4-6, EVER.

Though I like what the OP is saying about the original concepts, they can still use those in further prequels. I love the idea of Stormtroopers with lightsabers and shields.

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I think this could be a continuing series for years to come. Some stories end, while others are just beginning.

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