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Old 03-12-2018, 08:19 AM   #801
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This is the first time they've invaded the pitch. But the fans have been fighting each other in the stands on and off for the last two seasons.

They'll probably get a fine though.
If it happens again and a match gets abandoned, I think it will be worse for them.
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3 points is nice but kanes injury is a worry. Although son has been scoring for fun recently.
Son has been excellent. Do you know what/how bad Kane’s injury is yet?

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I'd say 40/60, the majority will always sway towards results no matter what sadly.
I'm definitely with you. Once the performances get boring enough I get less interested and look to other leisure interest. Despite all these years of Ashley ruining my club I still feel like a lucky fan compared to many others due to the amazing times we had under Keegan and Robson.


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That looked like some stuff from the bad old days, West Ham have always had an element like that unfortunately, like a lesser version of Millwall.
Unfortunately so. Needs to be stamped out now that they've had the warning.

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I just saw the Carragher stuff now, what on earth...

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If it happens again and a match gets abandoned, I think it will be worse for them.


Son has been excellent. Do you know what/how bad Kane’s injury is yet?
Not yet poch said we should find out the next couple of days. Think they're waiting for the swelling to go down.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43369490


Looks like some leagues have trouble on a different level!

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Not yet poch said we should find out the next couple of days. Think they're waiting for the swelling to go down.
Oh, good luck for that. Huge player. England need him too for the World Cup. Not much point turning up without him.

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For all the unwanted gubbins over at West Ham over the weekend, another 'side' story' for me was Hart's performance, back in goal after a while and he made a mess of the goals, I think we have seen the end of his career at high end club and certainly at being regarded as a 'shoe in' for regular England caps.

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Goalkeeper is one area England never sorted out after Seaman left.

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I don't disagree necessarily, but what would they do to stop so many fans who act this way?
Most of the seats are allocated to specific season tickets and along with CCTV they should be able to see which seats the ones who are causing trouble from are originating from. Ban those people (for life I reckon - at least going forward, needs to be zero tolerance to this) and confiscate their season tickets without paying back for any lost matches. As well as reporting their names to the police of course.

Even people who lend their season tickets out would then lose their season tickets (but not get reported or banned) and would therefore have to take some responsibility for who they lend them to. I think if a club could prove that they were doing all this every time after an event like this, it should be enough to avoid losing points. Otherwise it should be an automatic 3 point deduction (carried over to the next season if there is nothing left to play for this season).

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Silva with a double putting City 2-0 up away to Stoke. They must be pretty close to sealing the title by now.

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Most of the seats are allocated to specific season tickets and along with CCTV they should be able to see which seats the ones who are causing trouble from are originating from. Ban those people (for life I reckon - at least going forward, needs to be zero tolerance to this) and confiscate their season tickets without paying back for any lost matches. As well as reporting their names to the police of course.

Even people who lend their season tickets out would then lose their season tickets (but not get reported or banned) and would therefore have to take some responsibility for who they lend them to. I think if a club could prove that they were doing all this every time after an event like this, it should be enough to avoid losing points. Otherwise it should be an automatic 3 point deduction (carried over to the next season if there is nothing left to play for this season).
This is all legit, and I agree with it. But this is all post incident. So it can't really help avoid the situation, if that makes sense.

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Forget West Ham. Anyone see that Greek owner who ran onto the pitch with a gun this weekend?

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Forget West Ham. Anyone see that Greek owner who ran onto the pitch with a gun this weekend?
Yeah, that's what I posted above. Crazy. The league is suspended now.

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Change at Southampton....

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This is all legit, and I agree with it. But this is all post incident. So it can't really help avoid the situation, if that makes sense.
Yes it does. I think if done once properly, like right now, it would scare season ticket holders for future. People think they can get away with a lot before a precedent is set.

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Southampton looked to be a legit top 10 club for a while there. Things have gone downhill quite badly.

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Southampton looked to be a legit top 10 club for a while there. Things have gone downhill quite badly.
Selling your best players and losing good managers will do that.

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Silva with a double putting City 2-0 up away to Stoke. They must be pretty close to sealing the title by now.
Hopefully they've won the league before we face them. With the world cup i doubt they'd be trying too hard.

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Selling your best players and losing good managers will do that.
Wonder where they'd be now if they still had Koeman.

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Hopefully they've won the league before we face them. With the world cup i doubt they'd be trying too hard.
All focus would likely switch to the CL.

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I'm definitely with you. Once the performances get boring enough I get less interested and look to other leisure interest. Despite all these years of Ashley ruining my club I still feel like a lucky fan compared to many others due to the amazing times we had under Keegan and Robson.
Yeah, football is an entertainment IMO, it's not just about winning as if it was we wouldn't need to watch games, we could just check the score like back in the old days with the BBC Grandstand vidprinter for full time on a Saturday afternoon.

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Unfortunately so. Needs to be stamped out now that they've had the warning.
Agreed, although as Lilbaz, West Ham fans have been fighting each other int he stands since they moved into the new stadium.

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For all the unwanted gubbins over at West Ham over the weekend, another 'side' story' for me was Hart's performance, back in goal after a while and he made a mess of the goals, I think we have seen the end of his career at high end club and certainly at being regarded as a 'shoe in' for regular England caps.
He's been a phony for ages now, living off his name, problem is Butland hasn't really been great since his injury and I think this World Cup is too soon for Pickford.

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Yes it does. I think if done once properly, like right now, it would scare season ticket holders for future. People think they can get away with a lot before a precedent is set.
That is a good point. It would go back to how the hooliganism culture was scared straight after legit penalties was imposed. You'll still get some, but best to cut most of it off at the knees at the start.

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He's been a phony for ages now, living off his name, problem is Butland hasn't really been great since his injury and I think this World Cup is too soon for Pickford.
The thing is, Joe Hart was never great. He was always overrated. Why Pep got rid of him quick. A good shot stopper, but he has never been more the mediocre at the other parts of being a keeper, and as his athleticism goes, he isn't even a decent shot stopper anymore.

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Yeah, football is an entertainment IMO, it's not just about winning as if it was we wouldn't need to watch games, we could just check the score like back in the old days with the BBC Grandstand vidprinter for full time on a Saturday afternoon.
I used to have my TV showing teletext continuously rather than watching TV, and kept refreshing in the hope of transfer news. When Del Piero was rumoured for Newcastle I did it a few hundred times a day.



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The stadium move doesn't seem to have worked out well for them so far. Will be interesting to see what it's like if they get success on the pitch.

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That is a good point. It would go back to how the hooliganism culture was scared straight after legit penalties was imposed. You'll still get some, but best to cut most of it off at the knees at the start.
Yeah. It's impressive that such a serious problem was successfully eliminated so it can be done.

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