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Old 05-06-2013, 04:53 PM   #251
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yeah i know you said you love it, it's just that i don't see a cartoonish look at all, infact i see the opposite.

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It's written by Goyer...at the very least there will be cheesy jokes and hammy one liners.
And I don't mind as long as they work. I dig most of the cheese in BB for example.

Not to mention Superman: The Movie.

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is anybody else worried that they might over use that lens flare effect?...those final shots in the tv spot seem to have a lot of that....looks like something directed by J.J. Abrams
its now a big trend. it will last as long as bullet time did after matrix. we are in some big s.....

not against lens flares. i am just against having lens flares shots from spot lights when the sky is cloudy. i have a problem with lens flares shots when there is no light source that would create such a blue small lens flare. they have plugins in a software called after affects and Nuke. its called optical flares. 5 clicks and lens flare galore.

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Isn't it dark sentinel that deciphered the kryptonian glyphs? I'm sure he can tell us what the poster says
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I wouldn't say I "translated" the glyphs; it was more an assumption; plus, without an English translation the best we got is a SOV sentence structure.

But I'll see what I can do.

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There is no cartoonish look in here, I swear to God there's always a guy somewhere on every movie or every trailer to say "UGH LOOK AT THAT FAKE CG LOOKS HORRIBLE LOL".

CG is on top level here, it looks GREAT.

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Just saw a tv spot on espn for nba playoffs. No new footage. Cool to see regardless.

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And I don't mind as long as they work. I dig most of the cheese in BB for example.

Not to mention Superman: The Movie.
It worked perfectly for Begins, I don't see why it wouldn't for Man of Steel.

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There is no cartoonish look in here, I swear to God there's always a guy somewhere on every movie or every trailer to say "UGH LOOK AT THAT FAKE CG LOOKS HORRIBLE LOL".

CG is on top level here, it looks GREAT.
he used the word cartoonish. i use the word stylized. its not based on physical lighting and natural white balance colors (color temperature). half of MOS will IMO look like Pacific Rim. stylized. the other half will be 100% serious realistic like filmed for a documentary.
i would like if the whole movies was stylized. i dont like shaky cam.

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Just saw a tv spot on espn for nba playoffs. No new footage. Cool to see regardless.
Was it the tie-in ad?

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It worked perfectly for Begins, I don't see why it wouldn't for Man of Steel.
Lets think of some examples.

"Guy who dresses in a blue unitard with a big crotch bulge clearly has issues."

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Are we thinking this suit is CG or practical? This isn't meant to start a CG bashing debate, I'm just wondering if this suit was actually built and worn by Crowe, since it doesn't seem as huge/extreme as the Zod one we know to be CG.
Obviously without being on the set or seeing any behind the scenes stuff, I can't answer one way or the other, but I will say this.

1. Zod's armor looks just as real as Jor-El's, and we know Zod's is CGI.
2. When Shannon was talking about it, I'm pretty sure (and feel free to correct me posters) he said "we were all" standing around in blue pajamas looking silly.

So he could have been referencing just him and Faora and co. in Smallville/on Earth, or he may have meant on Krypton with everyone else. Who knows *shrug*?

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I've only seen BB, so I dont have a full understanding of Goyer's dialogue. Can you tell me more?
When it doesn't sound overwritten to me it sounds like dumb action movie dialogue, which is fine for something like Blade...mostly.

BLADE: The world you live in is a candy coded topping but there is another world...

I forget the rest because I haven't watched the film in years. It was only a few months after my back surgery that I saw the film as a matter of fact. That has nothing to do with anything, it just takes me back.

I hate that line, it sounds so awkward and cheesy. It sounded that way in 98 and it still does. To be fair I'm not in love with the dialogue in most Superhero films.


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Was it the tie-in ad?
Yea I believe so. Had shot of Lebron James and Tony Parker. The line about what kind of man you want to be.

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When it doesn't sound overwritten to me it sounds like dumb action movie dialogue, which is fine for something like Blade...mostly.

BLADE: The world you live in is a candy coded topping but there is another world...I forget the rest.

I hate that line, it sounds so awkward and cheesy. It sounded that way in 98 and it still does. To be fair I'm not in love with the dialogue in most Superhero films.
This reminds me of the second Hulk movie. I don't know whether to applaud everything Norton did, or cringe every time Liv Tyler opens her mouth.

Not a Tyler basher either, I think she gets a lot more heat than she deserves in some pretty good roles; she isn't a bad actress, but that script did her absolutely no favors.

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Luckily, the MoS dialogue doesn't feel clunky from what we've heard.

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Old 05-06-2013, 05:13 PM   #267
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When it doesn't sound overwritten to me it sounds like dumb action movie dialogue, which is fine for something like Blade...mostly.

BLADE: The world you live in is a candy coded topping but there is another world...

I forget the rest because I haven't watched the film in years. It was only a few months after my back surgery that I saw the film as a matter of fact. That has nothing to do with anything, it just takes me back.

I hate that line, it sounds so awkward and cheesy. It sounded that way in 98 and it still does. To be fair I'm not in love with the dialogue in most Superhero films.
I remember a rumor - from the site in your sig, I think? - that the Mulroneys had also done some rewrites on the MOS script. So even if the rewrites from Jonah Nolan and Kurt Johnstadt didn't help on the dialogue front, maybe the Mulroneys did, judging from their work on the JL Mortal script and Sherlock Holmes 2, which featured more spontaneous, "in tune" dialogue, I'd say.

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Wow, that looks really good!

What is Lara doing in the background, I wonder?

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Wow, that looks really good!

What is Lara doing in the background, I wonder?
Packing dat cape!

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Looks like she's got one herself!

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I think this script is all Goyer. But he has helped himself out by borrowing scenes and even dialogue from the comics.

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I remember a rumor - from the site in your sig, I think? - that the Mulroneys had also done some rewrites on the MOS script. So even if the rewrites from Jonah Nolan and Kurt Johnstadt didn't help on the dialogue front, maybe the Mulroneys did, judging from their work on the JL Mortal script and Sherlock Holmes 2, which featured more spontaneous, "in tune" dialogue, I'd say.
Even if it as clunky, I'll live.

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Exactly. It's not like I hate the effect, I actually think it's cool, but when over used it tends to distract more than anything...like you almos have to look for what's beneath the lens flare...and considering the beautiful shots we've seen so far...I hope they didn't have an extra 6 months on post edit for this film jut to have it all covered in lens flare in the end...

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Just saw this on Gofobo, advance screening of MoS on the 12th of June. No details or RSVP codes available yet, hopefully something will show up soon.

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As far as Man of Steel goes THERE are moments that feel a little cartoon-like in the trailers, such as when he dodges the bullets or bats Zod around with his fist. I think some of us are spoiled by the "invisible CG" of Nolan with the bats in Begins, the leaping out from the plane, and the Batpod in places. That being said, the effects already look way better than the Avengers and the Hobbit.

It looks like the realism is being reserved for the dramatic moments (as it should) while the more "blockbuster" moments are given the CG works, but with an underlying realism behind it (ie contrails when Superman's cape hits the clouds, sonic booms when he punches Zod, etc.)

This might sound like hype that no film may live up to, but MOS looks as dramatic and deep as Batman Begins, more spectacular than last year's Avengers, and dare I say it, the most faithful DC adaptation yet in terms of capturing the spirit of the titular character. I feel like Micheal Shannon when he said that stating something like this would "curse the movie" with unmatchable hype.

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