Fantastic Four reborn! - Part 4

[TheVileOne]

I mean spideymouse, it's been 9 years since Daredevil and 7 and a half since Elektra with literally NOTHING in actual production.

So these time sensitive deals have been pretty crap IMHO.

[craigdbfan]

Originally Posted by TheVileOne

I mean spideymouse, it's been 9 years since Daredevil and 7 and a half since Elektra with literally NOTHING in actual production.

So these time sensitive deals have been pretty crap IMHO.

It's way looser than what some make it out to be seeing as those at the top of Marvel Studios don't have a bad relationship with Rothman or Avi Arad. With that said Marvel is under the Disney label now and patience runs low with them so that leniency starts running thin.

Especially if they think that they're just sitting on these franchise when they (Disney/Marvel) see themselves as far more capable shepherds for certain franchises that were sold during a time of financial desperation.

[spideymouse]

Originally Posted by TheVileOne

I mean spideymouse, it's been 9 years since Daredevil and 7 and a half since Elektra with literally NOTHING in actual production.

So these time sensitive deals have been pretty crap IMHO.

Yeah, Arad and Marvel were pretty desperate at the time. But it does take literally 8 years to make a movie sometimes.

[marvelrobbins]

But,would Marvel be willing to fasttrack FF.We have chance at 2015 release for FF with Dsney who knows when It would be made.

The Best outcome to me would agreement Is reached.Disney can use FF Cosmic Characters In GOTG.FF remains on track for summer 2015.Fox fiances It and It and Disney split distribution.Fox distributes domesticly.Disney overseas.Disney can make reference to FF In other films and can have cameos by FF In other films If Marvel wants to as long as It doesn't Interfear In FF solo films.

If Fox signs away rights to FF and related characters jsut for expansion of Daredevil rights It doesn't seem good business sense.

[marvelrobbins]

Ok I realized I msiread It.Fox may turn over rights to certain characters that can be used for cosmic storys Marvel Is Intrested In doing In exchange for extension of the Daredevil
rights not FF themselves.

[bubbadoom]

Originally Posted by Incrediblejeff

I don't know if I like the idea of the F4 not having Galactus and the Silver Surfer.They already can't use Namor or the Inhumans.

Looks like our chances of a good FF movie from Fox are getting less and less. They are already SO limited to who they can and can not use - no Namor, no Inhumans, no Black Panther, no true Frightful Four, etc. - there's not that much left. Now, if they loose Galactus, Surfer, Watcher, and who know who else, all we will get is Doom again and again and again.

Fox needs to just let go of the FF all together and concentrate on their mutants and DD [if they want to keep him].

[bubbadoom]

Originally Posted by marvelrobbins

But,would Marvel be willing to fasttrack FF.We have chance at 2015 release for FF with Dsney who knows when It would be made.

The Best outcome to me would agreement Is reached.Disney can use FF Cosmic Characters In GOTG.FF remains on track for summer 2015.Fox fiances It and It and Disney split distribution.Fox distributes domesticly.Disney overseas.Disney can make reference to FF In other films and can have cameos by FF In other films If Marvel wants to as long as It doesn't Interfear In FF solo films.

If Fox signs away rights to FF and related characters jsut for expansion of Daredevil rights It doesn't seem good business sense.

I still say the BEST outcome is the FF and all their supporting cast going back to Marvel.

[craigdbfan]

That is the best outcome. I think even Fox knows they're at a complete standstill when it comes to the F4 and the cosmic characters tied to them.

[babykhris]

Originally Posted by marvelrobbins

But,would Marvel be willing to fasttrack FF.We have chance at 2015 release for FF with Dsney who knows when It would be made.

The Best outcome to me would agreement Is reached.Disney can use FF Cosmic Characters In GOTG.FF remains on track for summer 2015.Fox fiances It and It and Disney split distribution.Fox distributes domesticly.Disney overseas.Disney can make reference to FF In other films and can have cameos by FF In other films If Marvel wants to as long as It doesn't Interfear In FF solo films.

If Fox signs away rights to FF and related characters jsut for expansion of Daredevil rights It doesn't seem good business sense.

FOX basically is screwed...They have to choose either Daredevil or FF. FOX realizes the X-Men are their bread & butter, so this is why this deal is happening.

I say let FOX have Daredevil give us the rights to Silver Surfer, Galactus and maybe a few smaller characters and down the road Fantastic Four will come home.

No offense to Daredevil, but if Marvel got his rights back they wouldn't do anything with him for at least 4-5 years.

[marvelrobbins]

If Marvel got all the FF rights how many years till they would do a actual FF film.This deal seems more about using FF cosmic characters In GOTG and Avengers sequel than getting the FF themselves.Marvel has Inabilty to make films based on Non Avengers.

[spideyboy_1111]

Originally Posted by craigdbfan

Variety: Huge Fantastic Four News!
Things are heating up ladies and gentlemen.

Disney/Marvel turning up the heat.

this is great news! it also shows proof that Marvel does want their rights back... but is currently prioritizing

[Blackman]

wait so are only some of the FF characters going back to Marvel or most of the FF characters

[Chewy]

Originally Posted by Blackman

wait so are only some of the FF characters going back to Marvel or most of the FF characters

Just a few of the cosmic ones. Probably has more to do with GotG and the cosmicverse than F4 themselves.

[spideyboy_1111]

Originally Posted by spideymouse

They are time-sensitive deals--as long as Fox and Sony make movies with the characters licensed to them every certain number of years, they retain the movie rights to those characters. I think it's why the Wolverine spin-off still had the word "X-Men" in its title. Though I wonder if the Daredevil clock started with the release of the Elektra movie (2005) or the Daredevil movie (2003).

the title didn't matter. the only reason XO:Wolverine had the XO title in it was because their was suppose to be XO:Magneto (but that story got merged in with First Class.

sequels/spin-offs all renewed the rights. the title doesn't matter. Fantastic Four would have been renewed with the once supposed Silver Surfer spin-off

[ares834]

Originally Posted by marvelrobbins

If Marvel got all the FF rights how many years till they would do a actual FF film.This deal seems more about using FF cosmic characters In GOTG and Avengers sequel than getting the FF themselves.Marvel has Inabilty to make films based on Non Avengers.

Yep. While it would be cool to see the FF in the MCU, Marvel seems to just want the cosmic forces as they better fit the universe they have created.

[Whiskey Tango]

lol where are all those posters who kept saying "there won't be any trading or deals or buying these characters back, they're all gone for good!"

I knew MS would start eying some of these characters eventually.

[babykhris]

Don't forget now we can do a DEFENDERS film if this happens!!!

[terry78]

**** or get off the pot, is what Marvel is saying.

[Duran Man]

I really don't see Fox trading a few characters from FF for more time to work on DD, which isn't worth keeping when they already have FF and X-Men. But, if the powers at be at Fox are the numpties I think they are, then they'll take the deal.

[spideyboy_1111]

Originally Posted by Whiskey Tango

lol where are all those posters who kept saying "there won't be any trading or deals or buying these characters back, they're all gone for good!"

I knew MS would start eying some of these characters eventually.

i think MS and FX have been both using strategery the whole time... I really wouldn't be shocked if all this F4 news was nothing but a ploy for them to get marvel to finally lay out a rebuttal. I think Fox cares more about DD than they do in F4 right now.. especially with F4 being so restricted, (and both attempts failed) and Daredevil could now potentially fill the gap left by Batman as a street hero drama.

[Project862006]

think they will do it i think DD is closer to production than F4 anyways they have a script and now are closing in on a director

[marcvader]

I doubt MS would put them selves out there if they weren't sure FOX is running out of time and isn't ready.

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