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If I can't even have my own opinion, what's the point of posting here? Am I just here to follow the crowd. Maybe I should just tag along and act timid, for fear of troll accusations being levelled at me by people like you. But I have to wonder, what compels you so much to go around accusing others of trolling? Did you have a bad childhood? I would like to discuss your issues, man.
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TDKR, like the Dark Knight, won all the oscars it deserved this academy awards season, in my opinion.
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Wally deserved a cinematography nom. He shouldn't have won (that would be Deakins), but he deserved a nomination at the least.
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He absolutely did. I think Deakins' work was "prettier", but the unrivaled clarity and purity of the IMAX image along with Wally's consistently amazing framing and lighting makes it a very tight race. Too bad Claudio Miranda probably would have robbed them both even if Wally got nominated, lol (although I say that without having seen Life of Pi, which is unfair).
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Not in my opinion. TDKR, like TDK, deserved more.
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You were supposed to respond with, "but TDKR didn't win and wasn't nominated for any oscars", to which my reply would be, "Exactly".
Even though I don't care about the Oscars, especially with how political and non-nonsensical they are, I think Ledger deserved it for the Joker. It was nice to see whether they gave it to him because he died or not. He was literally the best thing about the film, for me anyway. Best thing about film all of that year. So, it was good to see. I think it's visual effects and cinematography were very good too. All the other categories? Perhaps, but it doesn't really matter. I was entertained. TDKR? I don't see anything in there, save for visual effects or cinematography (which Pfister won elsewhere anyway) that it "DESERVED" anything. Not if you consider the Oscars to be "prestigious" like some people seem to. What did it achieve that prior Batman films hadn't? Or how about as far Nolan's films go? Or filmmaking in general? Going bigger and louder and expanding with bloat in every area? Most sequels do that, not all of them really succeed. The only thing TDKR surpassed of Begins and TDK were the fight scenes, but I don't think there's a nomination for that with the Oscars, maybe the MTV movie awards. Screenplay? Definitely not. The others are far superior. Hathaway? I think Catwoman is great, I love seeing her on screen, best part of TDKR by far, but I'm not sure it constitutes as "OMG OSCAR WORTHY" (whatever that means to people). She played Catwoman and Selina Kyle, and did it well, not much more. Les Mis was always going to be "that movie". Other than us Batman/Comic nerds/movie buffs/Anne Fane who does Catwoman resonate with? As for OutRiddled's remarks, I can't say I agree with him 100%. There seems to be a lot of phony stuff in there, some of it is spot on though. I'd say Miranda Tate/Talia is razzie worthy, and not just because of the death. I'd say the same thing about Bane too. They're ordinary, cliched villains bent on city destruction. And Bale? We've seen him do much better (and in other Batman films), I'm sure even Bale would attest to that. I don't agree with Outriddled completely, I felt Bale's Bruce Wayne was at least compelling and well acted in TDKR, even if it wasn't a direction I agreed with. But his Batman? Or, Bale in Batman suit? No, that's not very good. Certainly not for awards or high praise or whatever people constitute as an accomplishments for a movie. He's in an uncomfortable suit rubber suit and looks and sounds like he's in an uncomfortable rubber suit. That's pretty much all there is to it. Last edited by milost; 03-23-2013 at 03:56 PM. |
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It's not a rubber suit in TDK and TDKR milost
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Tell that to the stretched out plates on his thighs and torso that are bunched up and folding. Or even his cowl.
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![]() And why would I respond with that line? Both films deserved more recognition at the Oscars, and that's why I said what I said. Both deserved much more, even if a few won't admit it. A film that AFI acknowledge as only the fourth CBM to be in their Top Ten lists(making Nolan the only director to have two CBMs in there) is enough to tell me how cherished TDKR is to many, but I only hope others felt the same.
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To be fair, there were a LOT more great movies in 2012 than in 2008.
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Of course there were. I could easily count up to ten films, something I couldn't in '08. 2012 was a great year for films indeed.
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I think Anne Hathaway is very overrated. Just because she is popular and stars in many big hollywood films does not make her a good actress. One actress I love is Jennifer Jason Leigh, but I don't think she ever got an oscar. Despite the fact that she does much more challenging roles than Anne Hathaway. |
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Well to you she was playing a bad caricature as you didn't even like the way Anne acted in the film, but just go around these boards, and you'll notice a lot of love and praise at Anne's performance.
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If you love her, love to watch challenging acting/roles, love to watch the real acting ; how come you say Christian Bale's acting in general as a unintentionally funny moment? I just can't understand that... Hahahahahahahaha.. You are unintentionally funny in this Unintentionally Funny thread, dude..
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After Fox unlocks the reactor access, the way Bane looks at him makes me laugh, i dont know why
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