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Old 01-19-2014, 05:22 AM   #1
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Default Anyone else worried about Sony rushing the Sinister Six?

Back in June of last year when I joined I was very excited to see TASM2. By that time the 1st film was rather well liked and it had made the most out of any reboot. Filming for it's sequel was nearly done and I thought much of it looked excellent, I even wondered if this could be the first Spider-Man film with The Dark Knight or Iron Man success.

Now 7 months later my excitement has gone down. After watching the trailer and other recent stuff I have began to realize there is a strong focus on the Sinister Six. Why is this bad you ask? Well back in July with the comic-con trailer the film seemed very self contained and focused. The recent one literally showed NO Max Dillion!, what we got was this focus on three villains...

Now assuming TASM4 is when there will be a Sinister Six film that only gives us 2 and 3 to introduce the villains! How can you introduce the likes of Doc Ock and Vulture in TASM3 while Green Goblin finishes his arc? Doc Ock and Vulture need a film on their own as a main antagonist before being the team. It is essential that the Sinister Six film is not our first time seeing important villains like that as their alter egos!

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Old 01-19-2014, 05:47 AM   #2
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Default Re: Anyone else worried about Sony rushing the Sinister Six?

at least they didn't announce sinister 6 as the sequel to tasm1 lol (cough batman vs superman cough)

i think it will be fine. the two spin offs are being written and directed by other creative teams. they are supplementary to the trilogy of webb's design.

that said, it will have to be seen whether all the easter eggs etc detract from tasm2. i don't think they will. if they are smart, the foreshadowing to sinister 6 and or venom will be subtle.

but yeah, the enemies unite stuff and the poster featuring all three villains is somewhat confusing, especially when the movie is being called rise of electro in numerous countries.

i do believe though that harry goblin was always the plan for tasm2, that his role informs electro's (puppet master / manipulator) and that only rhino was a late addition. apparently he is only in the film briefly, so not too worried here.

TASM4 is not the sinister 6 movie, btw. thanks to a recent IGN interview, we know there are the two spin off movies, and four amazing spider-man films. where the spin offs take place is unclear. do they want to do their villain-centric sinister 6 movie before tasm4, which will likely be spidey vs the six, or after?

the interview made it sound like S6 and venom will happen after tasm4 in 2018. that is so far away, so i wouldn't worry.

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Old 01-19-2014, 05:55 AM   #3
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The problem had been here, but you see - movie is going to be done for both of fangroups: SM fans and movie-goers. There is no need really to have a great ad for the Spider-man because of enormous popularity among young people. Though we have us - CB fans who wants more and more. We saw GG and Dr.Ock movies. Marc has a right not to focus on the one or another villain. And how many directors will do a movie with S6? I think - nobody. There is a real problem regarding budget of movies and i dunno know how many time does the world need to have an ability in making movies with 6 (!) villains!!! C'mon - Marc is the greatest guy even if movie s***s.
And i personally think that even before the CC footage they had a plan for S6. Can you remind all the easter eggs we saw in pics. And we know that they are going to reshoot (3 months before premiere!!!!!!). Isn't it cool? He wants to make BETTER!! God bless Marc!

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Truth be told Sony know the fans want to see the sinister 6, but they were not likely to wait 6 films released every 2 years in order to then put these villains together as they ain't like marvel where they could do 2 films a year with different casts

They probably don't wanna do another solo doc ock story after SM 2 and the vulture wouldn't be a good enough solo villain, even Sony had a problem with that idea

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Old 01-19-2014, 07:54 AM   #5
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I'm not worried. They have time, they have talent and they seem to already have it planned so... It'll probably work fine.

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They don't even have a release date yet, so I doubt it. Drew's got Daredevil and S6, which is interesting. If he got the Daredevil deal, then Marvel "allowed" him to accept the Sony S6 deal and vice versa. There is somewhat of a comradeship between both companies.

They introduce two members of the S6 in this film (Electro and Rhino), tease two more (Doc Ock tentacles and Vulture wings), introduce two characters in TASM3 and 4, then you have your S6.

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No, I'm not worried. By the end of TASM2, we would already have three villains (four if you count Lizard) who can be a part of the Sinister Six. That means we only need to introduce 3 villains before the S6 films, and its mostly Doc Ock that needs real character development.

If they use villains like Shocker, no backstory is needed. He could be like Hawkeye from the Avengers in a way.

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No, I'm not worried. By the end of TASM2, we would already have three villains (four if you count Lizard) who can be a part of the Sinister Six. That means we only need to introduce 3 villains before the S6 films, and its mostly Doc Ock that needs real character development.

If they use villains like Shocker, no backstory is needed. He could be like Hawkeye from the Avengers in a way.
I don't think Lizard will be in the team and neither will Proto-Goblin.

If Green Goblin is the villain in three and four is where he fights the Six I don't get how it's going to work out!

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Its possible that Norman would be in the Sinister Six, but I don't know.

Either way, they have time to develop a S6 film.

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Its possible that Norman would be in the Sinister Six, but I don't know.

Either way, they have time to develop a S6 film.
I sure hope so. If this trilogy was a Gwen Stacy/Oscorp saga then the next should build up to the S6!

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No, I'm not worried. By the end of TASM2, we would already have three villains (four if you count Lizard) who can be a part of the Sinister Six. That means we only need to introduce 3 villains before the S6 films, and its mostly Doc Ock that needs real character development.

If they use villains like Shocker, no backstory is needed. He could be like Hawkeye from the Avengers in a way.
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No, I'm not worried. By the end of TASM2, we would already have three villains (four if you count Lizard) who can be a part of the Sinister Six. That means we only need to introduce 3 villains before the S6 films, and its mostly Doc Ock that needs real character development.

If they use villains like Shocker, no backstory is needed. He could be like Hawkeye from the Avengers in a way.


The easter eggs in the ASM final swing tease who will be the villians in subssequent sequels.There is the blue light at 13s which teases Electro and when Peter swings from Crane it teases Proto/Green Goblin with clock tower.We already had Rhino teased in the lab.

This makes three villians that we are getting in this movie.Once he swings in the alley we see glimpse of yellow pants hanging teasing Electro and birds that fly when he swings out of alley.

I believe in the next movie,we will get Shocker and Vulture as the villians with Goblin playing bigger role in the first act.

Later when he swings out of the alley we also see the clouds and moon forming kind of fishbowl head with hands teasing Mysterio.

We know we have man in the shadows in this series and it has to do with someone who is behind the scenes working with Oscorp.What better villian then to have Mysterio to be behind the scenes roles in the series.

In the fourth movie,there will be introduction to Doc Ock who will use henchman villians such as Shocker,Rhino and Electro to take on Spidey and since they become unsuccessful he himself takes on himself to kill him.At this point,I predict Harry will have been killed from previous movie but Norman will
be the one who will be helping Doc with the involvement and Spidey will take help of Lizard to defeat Ock.

When we get sinister six movie, we will have Shocker,Rhino,Electro,Mysterio,Doc Ock and Vulture.

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Rhino, Shocker, and Vulture don't need any big character development. Electro will get his screen time in TASM2, so no worries there.

Doc Ock NEEDS a lot of development, but IDK when we will see him next. Octavious should make an appearance in TASM3 (not actually become the villain yet).

So then that begs the question of who will be the sixth member?

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Rhino, Shocker, and Vulture don't need any big character development. Electro will get his screen time in TASM2, so no worries there.

Doc Ock NEEDS a lot of development, but IDK when we will see him next. Octavious should make an appearance in TASM3 (not actually become the villain yet).

So then that begs the question of who will be the sixth member?
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I don't see why Vulture needs that much of backstory, but there's Always the risk of Doc Ock being underdeveloped, which would be awful!

By the way, I want to see the Classic scene of Ock slapping Spidey

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They won't be using Sandman for a number of reasons. The CGI is too expensive (why do you think SM3 cost $250 million back in 2007), he is associated with Spider-Man 3, and they would want to give us someone completely new. A character we have never seen before…

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I don't see why Vulture needs that much of backstory, but there's Always the risk of Doc Ock being underdeveloped, which would be awful!

By the way, I want to see the Classic scene of Ock slapping Spidey


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The S6 film should revolve around Doctor Octopus gathering his team.

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That won't happen for a while now.All those simplistic villians will take a while.

I believe we will get Sandman and Hydroman together.Are there any other Spidey elemental villians?

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The only way to have Sandman and Hydroman together on screen would be to make them part of the same project/experiment. In the comics, it was too coincidental that they just happen to "bump into each other." Kind of literally actually, as they form the "mud monster."

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The only way to have Sandman and Hydroman together on screen would be to make them part of the same project/experiment. In the comics, it was too coincidental that they just happen to "bump into each other." Kind of literally actually, as they form the "mud monster."
Yup, it will be like origin of SM3 in Sandman but with Hydroman included and it would be visually really appealing like Electro.Of course, the true badass could only be Doc Ock and these are really simplistic villians like Rhino.

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I think it would be cool if somewhere down the line they introduce a competing company that also has some messed up experiments going on. We can't use Trask industries, but there is the Hardy Foundation perhaps?

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We don't even know how and which villains will be showcased in the upcoming movies. We don't even know yet if the Green Goblin (Norman) will have his arc.

Sony had to showcase the three villains because I bet they felt it was necessary to identify and separate themselves from a regular superhero movie nowadays. I bet if you showed that SDCC trailer to the world, most people would go, "We've seen this in a Spider-Man movie already. Big powerful villain causing destruction. No big deal."
But instead, they pulled their other guns our and showcased what they really had, and what they're planning.

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There is really no telling as to what will happen in the future films.

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