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Old 02-11-2014, 05:03 PM   #1
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Old 02-11-2014, 05:05 PM   #2
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This idea has "meh" written all over it.

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Old 02-12-2014, 12:04 AM   #3
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This idea has "meh" written all over it.
Even if you don't like any of those 3 guys, I think everyone would admit that having ANY plan is better than no plan at all. Which is how they were doing it. They were making it up one movie at a time. This is why Marvel has been able to churn out a bunch of good movies; they had a solid plan before any of them came out. More than anything, DC needs to have a plan like Marvel has a plan. It needn't be the same sort of plan, but they need a plan of some kind. You can't make a large franchise one movie at a time the way DC has been trying to.

I don't have a problem with Johns, Goyer, or Snyder being involved here. I'm OK with the things Johns has done to comics characters, Goyer's had plenty of success while working with other talented folks, and Snyder has proven himself capable of delivering an adaptation that pleases [at least a small] majority of people.

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Even if you don't like any of those 3 guys, I think everyone would admit that having ANY plan is better than no plan at all. Which is how they were doing it. They were making it up one movie at a time. This is why Marvel has been able to churn out a bunch of good movies; they had a solid plan before any of them came out.
I'm for the method which yields better movies.

As it stands, I'm not sure either are really excelling at that. Marvel is producing more, sure, but more often than not they come off as average and even subpar. Creative talents are constantly in shift because of their rapid scheduling, and I think their assembly line direction is reflected with each of their movies.

DC is admittedly a bit worse, in both time and production quality, but I do think they have a potentially better setup as their creative core are actual filmmakers, as opposed to a great businessman who happens to be a fanboy (Feige). In the long run I think this will pay off for DC.

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Old 02-11-2014, 05:07 PM   #5
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Christopher Nolan and wife Emma Thomas have stepped down from Man of Steel sequel as Executive Producers..

Geoff Johns and David Goyer both replaced them as Executive Producers..

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Old 02-11-2014, 05:08 PM   #6
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I have no problem with them mapping out an entire DCU. I don't see the problem at all. At least it's a conbined effort if they are indeed doing such a thing.

Still, all speculation at this point.

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It could be the best thing to happen to the DCCU I think.

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Old 02-11-2014, 05:09 PM   #8
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Basically mapping it out just like Kevin Fiege and his team do for Marvel.

Batfleck and Terrio taking over the Batman franchise..

Zack Snyder having Superman & Justice League..

Everything else up for grabs

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Goyer, I'm fine with in that role. He's always been a good ideas man.

Geoff Johns on the other hand probably should be kept far away from movies, and I'm not just saying that because of Green Lantern either.

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Old 02-11-2014, 05:19 PM   #10
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What about Green Lantern? Was there a movie or something?



I remember back in 2008 they were talking about making a Green Lantern film with Ryan Reynolds as Hal Jordan

It would have been like Nicolas Cage's Superman.

Lucky they cancelled production before it ever saw the light.

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Old 02-11-2014, 05:14 PM   #11
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Goyer, Johns, & Snyder?

I rather hire these guys.


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Replace Johns with Bruce Timm and now we're cooking.

Actually wait. Don't do that. The DC animated movies will suffer.

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Replace Johns with Bruce Timm and now we're cooking.

Actually wait. Don't do that. The DC animated movies will suffer.
Timm hasn't done an animated film since TDKR. They are still doing good.

Replace Johns with Timm,
replace Goyer with Terrio,
and replace Snyder with Affleck.

Now we're cooking.

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Timm hasn't done an animated film since TDKR. They are still doing good.

Replace Johns with Timm, YES
replace Goyer with Terrio, YES
and replace Snyder with Affleck. NOOOOOO

Now we're cooking.
I don't want Affleck directing anything in the DCCU besides a Batman film.

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Old 02-11-2014, 05:18 PM   #15
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I'm iffy on that team.

And on the idea of "mapping" it all out a la Marvel for mass-production. It hasn't done their movies any favors in terms of quality.

Eh, not into it.

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Old 02-11-2014, 05:22 PM   #16
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I wouldn't want Timm as head of DCCU. Goyer is a good ideas man and very good at general plot outlining. Nolan has clearly rubbed off on the way he thinks.

Johns knows the source inside out and look at Justice League #1 in the new 52.. that is made for movie adaptation.

Snyder is the one that I'm iffy on. Visually yes. Storywise meh

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Old 02-11-2014, 05:23 PM   #17
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I wouldn't want Timm as head of DCCU. Goyer is a good ideas man and very good at general plot outlining. Nolan has clearly rubbed off on the way he thinks.

Johns knows the source inside out and look at Justice League #1 in the new 52.. that is made for movie adaptation.

Snyder is the one that I'm iffy on. Visually yes. Storywise meh
I did read Justice League 1 and the New 52 origin. It was ****.

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Old 02-11-2014, 05:25 PM   #18
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I did read Justice League 1 and the New 52 origin. It was ****.
It really was quite bad.

Fortunately his later work for the title like Throne of Atlantis and Forever Evil has been awesome.

Also his work on Green Lantern and Aquaman redefined those characters and recharged their popularity.

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Old 02-11-2014, 05:34 PM   #19
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God, I'd love to see something like this as a review on RT. Short and to-the-point.
Ok let's explain:

Wonder Woman is horribly written
Justice League needing Superman to win
Batman taking off the Bat symbol off his chest? (Superman does that Johns, not Batman)
Batman telling Hal he's Bruce Wayne
Superman's a dick
Flash doesn't do all that much.
Only reason Flash is involved is because Hal called him.
Darkseid is one noted.
Darkseid, biggest villain in the DC universe, gets beaten by a noob level Justice League.
Batman saves Superman.
Aquaman really comes out of no where. I mean he just comes out of the water. No build up or anything. It's like if Black Panther all the sudden was in the Avengers movie. Or Daredevil decided to join the fight in Avengers.
Darkseid is too tall.
Superman/Wonder Woman flirting.
Cyborg in it and not Martian Manhunter.

I think that's it but with me, I always leave stuff out.

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Ok let's explain:

Wonder Woman is horribly written
Justice League needing Superman to win
Batman taking off the Bat symbol off his chest? (Superman does that Johns, not Batman)
Batman telling Hal he's Bruce Wayne
Superman's a dick
Flash doesn't do all that much.
Only reason Flash is involved is because Hal called him.
Darkseid is one noted.
Darkseid, biggest villain in the DC universe, gets beaten by a noob level Justice League.
Batman saves Superman.
Aquaman really comes out of no where. I mean he just comes out of the water. No build up or anything. It's like if Black Panther all the sudden was in the Avengers movie. Or Daredevil decided to join the fight in Avengers.
Darkseid is too tall.
Superman/Wonder Woman flirting.
Cyborg in it and not Martian Manhunter.

I think that's it but with me, I always leave stuff out.
Replacing MM with Cyborg is hardly an automatic minus one.

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Old 02-11-2014, 05:27 PM   #21
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Throw Affleck in there too while you're at it.

He seems to know a lot about comics according to Kevin Smith

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Is this more than just speculative, at this point? Is this something with anything concrete to back it up with? Cuz, other wise, (fart noise in the wind).

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Well Justice League: War then it's the same thing.. I thought it was good

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Well Justice League: War then it's the same thing.. I thought it was good
I actually liked War. But they did add a fair bit more story to the movie.

The arc in the comics was basically 2 issues of introductions and then 3 -4 issues of non stop action.

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I actually liked War. But they did add a fair bit more story to the movie.

The arc in the comics was basically 2 issues of introductions and then 3 -4 issues of non stop action.
Well I dont do comics I only do the animated movies and movies..

Justice League: War was good and if made for a cinematic version could easily be fleshed out and swap Captain Marvel with Aquaman for **** sake. HATE Captain Marvel for Justice League. Keep him on his own

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