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Old 05-22-2017, 03:52 PM   #76
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Don't get me wrong I love David Harewood as J'onn, but prior to the CW shows, Martian Manhunter was easily as popular a character as Green Arrow or Flash.

He should have his own show, not be a barely used supporting character if you ask me.

They don't even call him J'onn half the time... Martian Manhunter has always been one of my top 3 favorite characters, its been 2 seasons and we haven't seen him eat an oreo once!
He definitely deserves his own show. It would be a way more unique concept than Supergirl as well.

I'm not saying can Supergirl, but why not give MMH his own spinoff show like they did for Flash?

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Old 05-22-2017, 03:54 PM   #77
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Martian Manhunter is my 2nd favorite DC character, and I honestly think the only thing not being done justice for him is his power-set. And that's understandable given obvious budgetary restrictions. His character and backstory (though tweaked to better-suit the themes of this show) have been shown respect by the writers, and I think the way the show has used him in the context of the themes they're exploring (as a fellow refugee of a lost culture like Kara) has been a very nice approach and not a waste at all. So while I'd LOVE to get a Martian Manhunter show where his character and mythology can be explored in-depth, I'm mostly satisfied with what the show has done with him.

The only thing that DOES bother me is when his power-set is ignored NOT for budgetary reasons, but for lazy plot-convenience reasons (like in "Homecoming").
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Old 05-22-2017, 04:55 PM   #78
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He definitely deserves his own show. It would be a way more unique concept than Supergirl as well.

I'm not saying can Supergirl, but why not give MMH his own spinoff show like they did for Flash?
Because what with Black Lightning next season the CW is already stuffed to the gills with superhero shows. And they are about the only ones interested in showing DC superheroes. After all Fox did end up passing on Black Lightning and ABC is owned by Disney which also owns Marvel. You surely don't want it on NBC or CBS considering their awful track record with superhero shows. And most cable channels have even less money so even less powers for MM.

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Old 05-22-2017, 05:33 PM   #79
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Don't get me wrong I love David Harewood as J'onn, but prior to the CW shows, Martian Manhunter was easily as popular a character as Green Arrow or Flash.
Look at the derisiveness the movie side people have addressed towards J'onn J'onzz (I think the exact quote was "how many of you out there who have heard of the Martian Manhunter have gotten laid?"). Maybe pre-Arrow you could make an argument comparing him to the Green Arrow, but he's never been as popular as the Flash.

Anyway, if he weren't in Supergirl, he wouldn't be anywhere. But the show is still called Supergirl. I'm happy with his use.

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No. This show is called Supergirl not MM or JL. I think he is being utilized well enough

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Old 05-23-2017, 05:41 PM   #81
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Because what with Black Lightning next season the CW is already stuffed to the gills with superhero shows. And they are about the only ones interested in showing DC superheroes. After all Fox did end up passing on Black Lightning and ABC is owned by Disney which also owns Marvel. You surely don't want it on NBC or CBS considering their awful track record with superhero shows. And most cable channels have even less money so even less powers for MM.
They could replace Legends or Supergirl with an MMH show.

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Supergirl is the 2nd highest rated show on the network. It's not getting replaced anytime soon.

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Old 05-23-2017, 08:21 PM   #83
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They could replace Legends or Supergirl with an MMH show.
Wasn't it Jeff Goldblum's character in Jurassic Park that said just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

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Old 05-24-2017, 11:06 AM   #85
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I would totally be fine with them replacing Legends with a MMH show, though.

Or, more likely, some form of Justice League show. Maybe one with the Hall of Justice located in Detroit. *eg*

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Only seems appropriate to post this here as well


David says that it is frustrating that the MM isn't up to par with his comic counterpart though he enjoys the role.

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Old 06-30-2017, 07:27 PM   #87
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Compared to the DCEU, J'onn is the King of Siam on the CW.

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Old 06-30-2017, 08:29 PM   #88
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In order to bring him up to par it would kill the CGI budget....if they want to do his own show, cool.....but I want the majority of the CGI going to Supergirl and the villains.

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Old 06-30-2017, 08:40 PM   #89
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Manhunter's powerset in the comics is a little on the ridiculous side, really. Superman (strength, flight, martian vision) + shape-shifting + phasing through stuff + Professor X.

He's a like a super team all by himself.

I'd rather they focused on character material, tbh, and kept the powers in check, at least within the context of this show.

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Phasing/Flying/Mind Reading/Shape Shifting are the big powers, the shape shifting would be expensive but everything else not so much. The mind reading comes as goes but needs a really good episode and to a better explanation.

But the shape shifting should be used for the bigger episodes.

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The EP's have already admitted in an interview that J'onn is to OP and they have intentionally cut him off at the knees otherwise there wouldnt be much of an episode. Think how often for some silly odd reason he cant seem to read someones mind.

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Manhunter's powerset in the comics is a little on the ridiculous side, really. Superman (strength, flight, martian vision) + shape-shifting + phasing through stuff + Professor X. He's a like a super team all by himself. I'd rather they focused on character material, tbh, and kept the powers in check, at least within the context of this show.
Agreed, he has practically like every power, its ridiculous. I think he was a poorly conceived comic book character.

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Agreed, he has practically like every power, its ridiculous. I think he was a poorly conceived comic book character.
In the comic books though it's mostly his heart that is his biggest superpower. I think the TV show does that superpower pretty well.

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In the comic books though it's mostly his heart that is his biggest superpower. I think the TV show does that superpower pretty well.
I think on this show Manhunter is important because his outlook and experiences create a somewhat darker, more pessimistic mirror for the lead character's outlook and experiences.

That's something he provides that none of the other characters can really provide. He's more suspicious of how people will react to alien superheroes, and very pragmatic in terms of preparing for super-powered threats. The Green Martians were the victims of genocide, while Krypton's destruction was a result of a natural disaster that its people failed to prevent, essentially. So it's like an even more traumatic version of what Kara experienced.

The fact that he has superpowers of his own is nice, occasionally, but that's a secondary thing.


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Let's remember that, because of his IMMENSE powerset, J'onn is almost always getting the shaft/being wasted, even in comics.

Here, at least they've given the character a spotlight and some solid character development.

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They could replace Legends or Supergirl with an MMH show.
That would be pretty stupid of them to replace their #2 show.

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That would be pretty stupid of them to replace their #2 show.
I didn't know it was their #2 when I posted that.

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