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Old 02-22-2016, 09:58 AM   #1
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So that we don't get a multitude of questions on the ratings, please take a look at these sites.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...ek-21-2015-16/

http://10.11.2.21/access/web?id=731e...c-00e0ed33888c

http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/08/spo...tor-table.html

http://www.spottedratings.com/

http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/su...ratings-39121/

And then discuss away right here!

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Old 02-22-2016, 01:43 PM   #2
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As I said on the other thread there are various things to note

- CBS needs to make a profit on first airing of Supergirl, WB gets the syndication money
- This means Supergirl has to rate higher than the shows CBS make themselves for their network. Good news is, it currently does.
- Supergirl is expensive to make, there is always the chance WB will price CBS out but this is not in their best interests. Mike and Molly was cancelled on CBS this year with strong ratings because they couldn't come to a renewal deal. The fact that has been decided is good for Supergirl as it suggests CBS have already done their new season negotiations with WB for Supergirl and 2 Broke Girls with no hint of cancellation.
-CBS already has opened up one drama slot in its schedule for next season with the end of The Good Wife. CSI Cyber is rating so badly it really cannot be saved. That is two slots they will need to fill already without taking to slicing up their existing schedule.

Comparison, in the key advertising demo Cyber got 0.9 for its last episode, Supergirl got 1.8. Double.

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if its just by viewers and ratings as i said too in the other thread the show has no reason to not be picked up. And its a good show for cbs for there monday block and all. Hopefully the production costs dont outweigh its chances or for the production costs to get massively cut would be disapointing.

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There's absolutely no reason to worry about this season. Next season is a different story, but there's essentially a zero percent chance CBS cancels it this year.

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You may be right.
But the decision is in the hands of CBS and they have not announced it yet.

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You may be right.
But the decision is in the hands of CBS and they have not announced it yet.
One shouldn't be expecting them to.

The timetable for series renewal announcements is usually mid May, around the time of the Upfronts.

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Yep.
But, I am still a little nervous about it.

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^ You really shouldn't be.

There's absolutely nothing to worry about re: Supergirl being renewed, at least at this point.*

* The only thing that could cause there to be reason to worry would be the ratings suddenly and massively tanking in the last six episodes of the season, which I really don't see happening.

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Once Supergirl gets the news about a 2nd season, then we can have fun speculating on what the 2nd season would be about.

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But, I am still a little nervous about it.
I think the finale of The X Files will have eaten away a bit at the show last night.

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Well, the week low between all of the 1.9's and 1.8's did well with L+7 ratings with an increase from 1.5 to 2.3 in the L+7 DVR ratings. People might not have watched it the same night, but they sure as hell DVR'd it. We may see the same thing happen with last night's ratings. Waiting for 11:00 a.m. and last night's ratings....

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Supergirl scores a 1.5 for the night in initial ratings.

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Not bad really, considering it was the finale for X-Files....pretty much what I was predicting.

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Not bad really, considering it was the finale for X-Files....pretty much what I was predicting.
X Files was a x factor in the numbers. But now that that's done on Fox, it's now time to face once again The Voice on NBC.

But I wonder if ratings take into consideration it's February 29th, the leap day in a leap year.

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Not a bad rating for last night's episode, but it kind of felt like filler in-between For The Girl Who Has Everything and Solitude.

Next week will see the return of Gotham and the head-to-head between that and Supergirl resumes.

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All of CBS' Monday series were down from their last-aired ratings, so it may just have been that people didn't know new episodes were being aired and chose to do other things.

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Not a bad rating for last night's episode, but it kind of felt like filler in-between For The Girl Who Has Everything and Solitude.

Next week will see the return of Gotham and the head-to-head between that and Supergirl resumes.
Three DC shows on broadcast TV in one night with Gotham, Lucifer, and Supergirl. And if iZombie gets renewed it could very well be paired with Jane the Virgin on Mondays next season. Four DC shows in a two hour window across 3/5 broadcast networks.

Speaking of, Supergirl and Lucifer tied this week in the ratings.

Accounting for differences in network sizes Lucifer, Supergirl, Gotham, Arrow, and Legends of Tomorrow are all doing about the same. Flash is doing much better and iZombie worse, but in general the DC shows seem to be good for about 110-130% of their respective networks' average ratings for scripted dramas.

I think that bodes well for future DC TV shows, at least in the immediate future (as long as they're not dead on arrival like Constantine, but incompetent producers and lack of network enthusiasm doomed that show).

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I love the fact that all of them are doing well, I've never understood the competition between fans of the shows...when a show does well, we all win.

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I understand wanting shows you like to do better than shows you don't like. Things that are successful get replicated and things that aren't don't.

But fortunately we're in an era where all types of comic book shows can succeed. Self-contained shows, shared universe shows, loose adaptations, faithful adaptations, traditional superhero shows, cop-drama fusions, spy shows, heavily serialized shows, more procedural ones.

We've really come a long way.

From 1993 to 2011, enough time for a newborn to reach voting age, we got:
Night Man (Marvel)
Mutant X (Marvel)
Blade The Series (Marvel)
Lois and Clark (DC)
Smallville (DC)
Birds of Prey (DC)
Human Target (DC)

From 2012 until now, we have
Arrow (DC)
The Flash (DC)
Legends of Tomorrow (DC)
Constantine (DC)
Supergirl (DC)
iZombie (DC)
Gotham (DC)
Lucifer (DC)
Agents of SHIELD (Marvel)
Agent Carter (Marvel)
Daredevil (Marvel)
Jessica Jones (Marvel)
Powers (Marvel)

With Preacher (DC), Luke Cage (Marvel), Iron Fist (Marvel), and the Defenders (Marvel) ordered to series and Most Wanted (Marvel), Damage Control (Marvel), Legion (Marvel), and Powerless (DC) ordered to pilot. Plus the animated shows and the tons of other projects in development.

Truly, our cup runneth over. I don't know when this bubble will pop, and when it does it'll be ugly, but we should all enjoy the ride while we can.

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I understand wanting shows you like to do better than shows you don't like. Things that are successful get replicated and things that aren't don't.

But fortunately we're in an era where all types of comic book shows can succeed. Self-contained shows, shared universe shows, loose adaptations, faithful adaptations, traditional superhero shows, cop-drama fusions, spy shows, heavily serialized shows, more procedural ones.

We've really come a long way.

From 1993 to 2011, enough time for a newborn to reach voting age, we got:
Night Man (Marvel)
Mutant X (Marvel)
Blade The Series (Marvel)
Lois and Clark (DC)
Smallville (DC)
Birds of Prey (DC)
Human Target (DC)

From 2012 until now, we have
Arrow (DC)
The Flash (DC)
Legends of Tomorrow (DC)
Constantine (DC)
Supergirl (DC)
iZombie (DC)
Gotham (DC)
Lucifer (DC)
Agents of SHIELD (Marvel)
Agent Carter (Marvel)
Daredevil (Marvel)
Jessica Jones (Marvel)
Powers (Marvel)

With Preacher (DC), Luke Cage (Marvel), Iron Fist (Marvel), and the Defenders (Marvel) ordered to series and Most Wanted (Marvel), Damage Control (Marvel), Legion (Marvel), and Powerless (DC) ordered to pilot. Plus the animated shows and the tons of other projects in development.

Truly, our cup runneth over. I don't know when this bubble will pop, and when it does it'll be ugly, but we should all enjoy the ride while we can.
I agree, but I think that in many cases on sites like this and many others, AND TWITTER. You end up having wars between two very solid shows, it is simply fans getting their feelings hurt for some reason because one show is doing better than another....and THAT is what I don't understand. IF, you don't like a show, simply because the character doesn't appeal to you, then I don't see a reason for spending time on that forum, tweeting about it whatever in a way that degrades that project, THINKING that it makes the show you like BETTER. That is just weird to me. For example, I'm not a fan of Gotham, it just isn't my "cup of tea", and I certainly don't think it is a "bad" show simply because I don't enjoy watching it...SOOOOOOO since I don't, I don't spend much time in that particular forum unless someone has requested me to take a look because of a problem. It just doesn't appeal to me, but I don't see running it down is going to make a show like "Supergirl" that I do enjoy any better. That is just strange...IMO.

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People like to feel like they're smart. That their opinion of a show is somehow more valid. That they can point out flaws that others don't see in shows they don't like, or that people who dislike their own favorite shows just "don't get it." We're all guilty of it to some degree. Some more than others.

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People like to feel like they're smart. That their opinion of a show is somehow more valid. That they can point out flaws that others don't see in shows they don't like, or that people who dislike their own favorite shows just "don't get it." We're all guilty of it to some degree. Some more than others.
Very true...it always just amazes me that some spend so much time doing it. I don't have that kind of time...haha

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Three DC shows on broadcast TV in one night with Gotham, Lucifer, and Supergirl. And if iZombie gets renewed it could very well be paired with Jane the Virgin on Mondays next season. Four DC shows in a two hour window across 3/5 broadcast networks.

Speaking of, Supergirl and Lucifer tied this week in the ratings.

Accounting for differences in network sizes Lucifer, Supergirl, Gotham, Arrow, and Legends of Tomorrow are all doing about the same. Flash is doing much better and iZombie worse, but in general the DC shows seem to be good for about 110-130% of their respective networks' average ratings for scripted dramas.

I think that bodes well for future DC TV shows, at least in the immediate future (as long as they're not dead on arrival like Constantine, but incompetent producers and lack of network enthusiasm doomed that show).
Three DCU shows in one night. DC is ruling Monday nights.

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To further illustrate how Flash might help Supergirl, check this out

Both Lucifer and Supergirl did a 1.54 unrounded rating Monday night. Both DC shows, same size 18-49 year old audience, airing on the same night.

The difference? Lucifer had 4.863 million viewers, Supergirl had 7.248.

Supergirl's audience is really, really old.

On the other hand, The Flash did a 1.45 with only 3.803 willion viewers. Its audience is much, much younger than Lucifer's, or even its fellow Arrowverse shows.

So basically, even if only a small fraction of Flash's normal audience starts watching Supergirl regularly, it could really help skew the show's average in a younger direction.

Generally crossovers don't have permanent increases on either shows' viewerships, but if you look at Arrow's history the 3-4 episodes following the Flash crossovers are usually still elevated from the normal level the show performs at, even if the show doesn't retain its series-high numbers for the crossovers themselves.

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There's absolutely no reason to worry about this season. Next season is a different story, but there's essentially a zero percent chance CBS cancels it this year.
I agree, but next year if ratings go down to six million or less and a demo next to last place then enter... The fever. The rage. The feeling of powerlessness. That turns good networks... cruel. Hopefully, the show will get better to keep its viewers, the potential is there, but they have to improve the writing and action choreography.

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