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Old 02-02-2010, 09:22 AM   #101
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I think it's the 90's.

I gotta go with John Romita as quintessential Spider-Man Artist


When you hear the words "Spider-Man" how many of you have this image pop up in your head?
Good for his time. But even look at the shading style used, just doesn't stack up to today.

Sounds like a lot of people are saying that they're quintessential spidey artist is from their early years of reading Spidey. Of those here who don't fit that description, who are your favorite artists?
Of the preferred artists that I've mentioned none come from the eighties, which is when I started collecting Spidey originally.

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Old 02-02-2010, 09:29 AM   #102
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Garney is my favorite Spider-Man artist.


Hey, can we all agree that Garney is an awesome Spidey artist? Is it, perhaps, possible, that we have unanimous agreement on something?

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Old 02-02-2010, 09:43 AM   #103
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I don't know about anyone else but I sure as hell love Garney. He's awesome at everything, but his Spider-Man in particular was great.

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Old 02-02-2010, 10:29 AM   #104
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No, I think (Ross Andru and Gil Kane) were very good for their time.

I also think top level comic art has progressed/improved since then.

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Stop? Random doesn't stop, Dan. You know this.

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one of my favorites.


which according to spiderfan.org is by Ron Frenz. nov 1984

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Old 02-02-2010, 10:57 AM   #108
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Not Spider-Man, but Ron Garney is awesome!!

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Garney really did have a nice run on Spidey. However, I used to hate his art back when he was working on Austen's Uncanny X-Men. I just thought it was crappy as can be.

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Anyone's art will look ****** when they're doing art for Chuck Austen.

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Old 02-02-2010, 12:35 PM   #111
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Aww, Spider-Jay, you know me too well

Dan, are you saying that comic art peaked in the 60's and can never be surpassed? The goal of most people striving in something they're passionate about is to take what the greats before them have done, and then surpass that. All I'm saying is that, yes those past greats are deserving of the highest respect in their field, but also, yes, those who have come after have strived for, and some have succeeded, in surpassing those past greats.

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It's not like he's degrading them or anything. I can't say one way or the other though... I'm not sure what art is theirs. And I've never even heard of Ross Andru, though I may know his stuff if I knew what issues they were.

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Dan, are you saying that comic art peaked in the 60's and can never be surpassed? The goal of most people striving in something they're passionate about is to take what the greats before them have done, and then surpass that. All I'm saying is that, yes those past greats are deserving of the highest respect in their field, but also, yes, those who have come after have strived for, and some have succeeded, in surpassing those past greats.
Apples and oranges. Art is not a science where each generation builds on what the last has learned and moves beyond it. Artists have been able to do pretty much everything comic artists are doing now for centuries in one form or another. The Mona Lisa isn't somehow inferior to a Georgia O'Keefe painting simply because it's older. The only exception is if you go back to the absolute earliest art, and even then it's only because the available tools weren't as effective at giving shape or form to the artist's vision as later artists' tools became. But the tools to realize whatever an artist can dream up have been available for longer than comics themselves have existed, so that's not an issue with them (unless you get into cost-effectiveness with coloring, but that's a much narrower subject than what your comment implied).

Comic art is and always will be about telling a story, and the toolbox for effectively doing that remains the same; only influences and styles shift with new generations. You may have a preference for more modern styles of comic art, but the quality of comic art as a whole hasn't magically risen over time.

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Old 02-02-2010, 01:00 PM   #114
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Though I just thought of another that I loved... good ol' Sal Buscema!
I really liked Sal's work on Spectacular. Yeah, that's another great one.

And yeah, like Garney was another good one, even if he had a pretty short run. He was definitely a step up from Deodato (for me). But I wouldn't say best. Ron Frenz I liked too.

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Apples and oranges. Art is not a science where each generation builds on what the last has learned and moves beyond it. Artists have been able to do pretty much everything comic artists are doing now for centuries in one form or another. The Mona Lisa isn't somehow inferior to a Georgia O'Keefe painting simply because it's older. The only exception is if you go back to the absolute earliest art, and even then it's only because the available tools weren't as effective at giving shape or form to the artist's vision as later artists' tools became. But the tools to realize whatever an artist can dream up have been available for longer than comics themselves have existed, so that's not an issue with them (unless you get into cost-effectiveness with coloring, but that's a much narrower subject than what your comment implied).

Comic art is and always will be about telling a story, and the toolbox for effectively doing that remains the same; only influences and styles shift with new generations. You may have a preference for more modern styles of comic art, but the quality of comic art as a whole hasn't magically risen over time.
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It's not like he's degrading them or anything. I can't say one way or the other though... I'm not sure what art is theirs. And I've never even heard of Ross Andru, though I may know his stuff if I knew what issues they were.
Ross Andru created the Punisher and illustrated the original clone saga. He had a pretty long run in the 70's. Themanofbat was around 35 at this time.

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It's not like he's degrading them or anything. I can't say one way or the other though... I'm not sure what art is theirs. And I've never even heard of Ross Andru, though I may know his stuff if I knew what issues they were.
Thank you Jewhob. I'm certainly not slamming them as Dan seems to think. As a matter of fact I owned a number of Ross Andru drawn spidey issues in my youth.

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Apples and oranges. Art is not a science where each generation builds on what the last has learned and moves beyond it. Artists have been able to do pretty much everything comic artists are doing now for centuries in one form or another. The Mona Lisa isn't somehow inferior to a Georgia O'Keefe painting simply because it's older. The only exception is if you go back to the absolute earliest art, and even then it's only because the available tools weren't as effective at giving shape or form to the artist's vision as later artists' tools became. But the tools to realize whatever an artist can dream up have been available for longer than comics themselves have existed, so that's not an issue with them (unless you get into cost-effectiveness with coloring, but that's a much narrower subject than what your comment implied).

Comic art is and always will be about telling a story, and the toolbox for effectively doing that remains the same; only influences and styles shift with new generations. You may have a preference for more modern styles of comic art, but the quality of comic art as a whole hasn't magically risen over time.
You're oversimplifying my friend. Yes, art has existed for a long time and has not necessarily gotten better, but comic art is a very particular type of art and it has not been around all that long (relatively speaking of course). Uhh, you know what, I could go on but I'm tiring of debating this aspect. Maybe I'll post more later.

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One of the problems with comparisons of comic art is a lot of people confuse improved printing quality and digital coloring with artistic ability.

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What exactly is there to like about Finch again? 'Cause all I see when I look at his art are squashed faces that look constipated, annoyingly bulging muscles, and a disturbingly off understanding of human anatomy.

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One of the problems with comparisons of comic art is a lot of people confuse improved printing quality and digital coloring with artistic ability.
I agree, and that's what I meant about the cost-effectiveness of coloring. Back in the day, they didn't have the technology to mass-produce high-quality colors for anything less than exorbitant costs, so we got the simplified, 4-color palette we know and love. Over time, there was a push to move beyond that, but the only way anyone did so was by having painters paint comics and, again, people have been painting for a long, long time. Now we've got digital coloring techniques, which effectively break down to painting via a computer and tablet--new medium, same techniques. So even in that respect, comic art hasn't really evolved so much as shifted from, say, the early '90s or so.

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Finch sucks. F him and his Matt Murdock/Scott Summers hybrid.

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What exactly is there to like about Finch again? 'Cause all I see when I look at his art are squashed faces that look constipated, annoyingly bulging muscles, and a disturbingly off understanding of human anatomy.
I don't see any of those things, at least in that pic. The faces aren't even visible under the masks, the muscles look fine for superheroes, and the anatomy looks fine, with the only possible problem being Spidey's wrist, but Spidey is supposed to have superhuman flexibility so that's also reasonable I'd say.

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