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Old 03-17-2016, 08:54 PM   #1
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Old 03-18-2016, 05:14 PM   #2
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Fisk breaking those handcuffs and slamming Matts head against the table. WHen he gets out of jail Matt is going to have a battle on his hands.

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Old 03-18-2016, 05:15 PM   #3
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Fisk breaking those handcuffs and slamming Matts head against the table. WHen he gets out of jail Matt is going to have a battle on his hands.
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To put it bluntly, Matt is screwed. And Fisk will spend more than $6 on the postage!

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Old 03-18-2016, 06:45 PM   #4
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Setting up
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Old 03-18-2016, 06:46 PM   #5
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I think that's one reason why Murdock didn't fight to keep Foggy Nelson. He's pushing Foggy away to try and protect him.

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Old 03-18-2016, 08:43 PM   #6
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That Matt/Kingpin confrontation.

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Matt done messed up!

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I was hoping Matt would knock Fisk on his ass or at least get out of his grip. I know they want Fisk to be intimidating, but they cant expect me to buy that Matt would let Fisk manhandle him like that and keep his hands on him after they've shown Matt take down an entire gang of armed and loaded bikers. Fisk is strong but Matt's squirrelly enough to break his grip or break his wrists. And no jury or judge would ever charge a blind man for defending himself against a career criminal.

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Old 03-19-2016, 01:03 AM   #9
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I was hoping Matt would knock Fisk on his ass or at least get out of his grip. I know they want Fisk to be intimidating, but they cant expect me to buy that Matt would let Fisk manhandle him like that and keep his hands on him after they've shown Matt take down an entire gang of armed and loaded bikers. Fisk is strong but Matt's squirrelly enough to break his grip or break his wrists. And no jury or judge would ever charge a blind man for defending himself against a career criminal.
Therein lies the problem. He still needs to keep his cover, especially in front of Fisk.

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Yeah, Matt did start to fight back a little bit, made one move and Fisk chalked it up to him being "the son of a boxer." If he'd done more, Fisk would've started to suspect there was more to it than that.

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Old 03-19-2016, 01:33 AM   #11
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DA ***** got taken out and I loved it! More Fisk greatness, Enjoyed seeing Claire and Matt interact again, Nice little fight between Elektra and the assassin.


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Old 03-19-2016, 02:13 AM   #12
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Prologue of Born Again. I love it.

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Old 03-19-2016, 06:55 AM   #13
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I was hoping Matt would knock Fisk on his ass or at least get out of his grip. I know they want Fisk to be intimidating, but they cant expect me to buy that Matt would let Fisk manhandle him like that and keep his hands on him after they've shown Matt take down an entire gang of armed and loaded bikers. Fisk is strong but Matt's squirrelly enough to break his grip or break his wrists. And no jury or judge would ever charge a blind man for defending himself against a career criminal.
A part of me wish matt goes all Dd mode and whack fisk inside the cell room. I really do.

If Matt can fight nobu, he can win fisk easily. matt is more skilled than ever in s2.

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Old 03-19-2016, 09:33 AM   #14
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Yeah, Matt did start to fight back a little bit, made one move and Fisk chalked it up to him being "the son of a boxer." If he'd done more, Fisk would've started to suspect there was more to it than that.
I got the impression that afterwards when he touches the blood coming out of his nose he does suspect matt of being more. He looks very thoughtful and asks for murdocks file.

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Yeah..no doubt about it...fisk sensed matt was more than just a lawyer.

As many have mentioned here..I think they are working towards the born again arc or bendis' s Out arc

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This was crazy. Every episode beats the last...

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Yeah, Matt did start to fight back a little bit, made one move and Fisk chalked it up to him being "the son of a boxer." If he'd done more, Fisk would've started to suspect there was more to it than that.
Exactly, Marvolo read this post ^

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I was hoping Matt would knock Fisk on his ass or at least get out of his grip. I know they want Fisk to be intimidating, but they cant expect me to buy that Matt would let Fisk manhandle him like that and keep his hands on him after they've shown Matt take down an entire gang of armed and loaded bikers. Fisk is strong but Matt's squirrelly enough to break his grip or break his wrists. And no jury or judge would ever charge a blind man for defending himself against a career criminal.
I think if it was in private and Matt had equal footing, yeah. But at that Moment, Matt was deep in enemy territory,
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Yeah, Matt did start to fight back a little bit, made one move and Fisk chalked it up to him being "the son of a boxer." If he'd done more, Fisk would've started to suspect there was more to it than that.
Exactly, but I suspect that it's already too late. The only punch that Matt gave was already the one punch too much. The way Fisk looked at his bruised lips and the fact that he then quickly orders his men to find everything possible on Matt Murdock is for me the proof that he made the connection between the masked man that he fought twice and Murdock or, at least, suspect that something is really wrong with Matt. Now, it's only a question of time before he discovers for sure who is behind the devil mask

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Awesome episode.
Matt made his biggest mistake by going to see Fisk when he is out, he is so screwed.
I immediatly know that the french guy will be an asssassin but I totally didn't expect that he worked for Stick.
The Hand is so awesome too.

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Did anyone catch the French pilot's last name? DuChamp? As in Frenchie? As in Moon Knight's BFF?

The only thing that makes me feel like it might not be was the change in the first name and the fact that it looked like he was flirting with her when Frenchie's openly gay. (Then again it could just be him being happy to see somebody else who speaks French.)

And the first name problem isn't an issue either. Nuke had his name changed from Frank to Will, Kirigi was renamed Nobu and Vision was never referred to as Victor Shade. I think that it's VERY likely that we'll see Moon Knight in the MCU in the near future.

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Old 03-19-2016, 09:59 PM   #22
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Finished the episode.
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He dies... but that has to be Frenchie's deceased brother. It sets up a partnership between the two of them along the lines of, "my brother was a mercenary just like you. He was killed in this very city."

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Kirigi was renamed Nobu and Vision was never referred to as Victor Shade.
I'm pretty sure Nobu is not supposed to be Kirigi. His name probably comes from this guy: http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Kagenob...ka_(Earth-616)

Victor Shade is also just an alias, and Vision has not had any reason to use it.

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Matt was originally meant to fight Kirigi in Season One instead of Nobu, so either Nobu was meant to be Kirigi or was changed later on. Who knows

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Nobu last name is:
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