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Old 03-17-2017, 04:35 PM   #1
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Old 03-17-2017, 04:35 PM   #3
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I'm about to start watching episode four.

My understanding is that all the hate and negative reviews I saw quoted, and headlined, were about the first 6 episodes. Unless the next three take a huge dip in quality...then I have no idea why there was so much hate for them. I guess I'll know once I make it to the 6th episode. But, so far...it feels like I've been watching a different show than what the critics saw.

The fight scenes haven't been bad at all. The MMA cage fight I watched in Episode 3 was awesome.

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I was reading through the reviews, and I think the RT percentage is somewhat misleading on this one. None of the reviewers really trashed what was there, at most it was, they were disappointed that it didn't seem to break any new ground but was acceptable.

I do plan on doing a full series review, but certainly seems to me like it's not any kind of disaster.
Nah...they were trashing it. Maybe not all of them, but there were some brutal quotes. Calling it a flaccid hand, saying it was dead on arrival...it was pretty badly trashed. That's why the negative reviews got so much play.

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I am three episodes deep and... I so far don't get the intense criticism the show got. I like all the actors, they all are doing fine, the plot and it's mysteries are unfolding and the fight coordination is tops to my eyes. Good mix of over the top moves and gritty stuff in the fighting, again, at least so far.

I like it at as much as I liked and enjoyed JJ and DD at this American point in their shows and so far I don't feel it being a slog the way Cage was. It took me forever to get through Cage's first three episodes despite Colter being good in the part and the action there being great. I will say there is something less flamboyant all around than the previous episodes. If one wants to call that "dull", we'll okay I could see that with expectations with the Netflix shows so far. But so far I am very engaged and think everything is being handled very well.

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Old 03-17-2017, 05:08 PM   #6
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Just started ep 8. The fact that I'm watching this instead of the NCAA tourney right now says enough. Second to the Daredevil(s), it's better than Luke Cage or Jessica Jones. I don't understand the hatred hype. I'm digging it.

Although, I do think Finn Jones was a bad choice. (side note: doubly so with his political excuses). Iron Fist has to be a white guy btw, just not this one, he's kind of weak.

But I'm still watching.

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Well I just finished episode 7 and yeah, I'm joining the brigade of folks who don't know what show the critics were watching because this show is very good. Definitely gets better with each episode.

Finn Jones may not be as good as Charlie Cox (who's the strongest actor on the Marvel/Netflix shows IMO) but he plays Danny's boyish charm very well and has chemistry with nearly everyone else on the show.

But Tom Pelphrey is probably the standout so far for me. He's making Ward quite a compelling character to watch.

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Well I just finished episode 7 and yeah, I'm joining the brigade of folks who don't know what show the critics were watching because this show is very good. Definitely gets better with each episode.

Finn Jones may not be as good as Charlie Cox (who's the strongest actor on the Marvel/Netflix shows IMO) but he plays Danny's boyish charm very well and has chemistry with nearly everyone else on the show.

But Tom Pelphrey is probably the standout so far for me. He's making Ward quite a compelling character to watch.
Yes! Completely agree. It's weird, in the first episode or two I thought Ward was a bad actor/caricature. Couldn't have been more wrong.

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Just started ep 8. The fact that I'm watching this instead of the NCAA tourney right now says enough. Second to the Daredevil(s), it's better than Luke Cage or Jessica Jones. I don't understand the hatred hype. I'm digging it.

Although, I do think Finn Jones was a bad choice. (side note: doubly so with his political excuses). Iron Fist has to be a white guy btw, just not this one, he's kind of weak.

But I'm still watching.
You are OUT OF YOUR MIND!! and lost all credibility saying this is better than Luke Cage and Jessica. then again, there is no right or wrong just personal opinions and your is as valid as the next guys, but dang- i couldn't disagree more with that statement. You saying that is actually shocking to me.

The first 6 episodes felt like an episode of 3s Company in the sense that something could have easily been explained and handled but ended up convuluted and drawn out for effect. Danny flew on the plane back to the States with no shoes?? I mean come on- he showed up to the company barefoot in dirty clothes and wanted to be taken serious?! The first 6 episode were overloaded with ridiculousness. I could list things item by item by i don't want to list any spoilers. I just didn't care about all the corporate stuff and Danny getting his company back... BORING!!!!!

My love for the other shows is what kept me going- and from episode 5-8 (i'm on 8 now) it does get a heck of a lot better, thank the heavens.

First 4 episodes= D+
Episodes 5-8= C+

The only good thing I can say is that each episode does seem to get better...

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You are OUT OF YOUR MIND!! and lost all credibility saying this is better than Luke Cage and Jessica. then again, there is no right or wrong just personal opinions and your is as valid as the next guys, but dang- i couldn't disagree more with that statement. You saying that is actually shocking to me.

The first 6 episodes felt like an episode of 3s Company in the sense that something could have easily been explained and handled but ended up convuluted and drawn out for effect. Danny flew on the plane back to the States with no shoes?? I mean come on- he showed up to the company barefoot in dirty clothes and wanted to be taken serious?! The first 6 episode were overloaded with ridiculousness. I could list things item by item by i don't want to list any spoilers. I just didn't care about all the corporate stuff and Danny getting his company back... BORING!!!!!

My love for the other shows is what kept me going- and from episode 5-8 (i'm on 8 now) it does get a heck of a lot better, thank the heavens.

First 4 episodes= D+
Episodes 5-8= C+

The only good thing I can say is that each episode does seem to get better...
You said it's best when you said this is all personal opinion, for sure. And everything you said is fair enough, but also exactly what I would have said about JJ and LC. LC was just bad, and JJ was boring. (don't get me wrong, I soaked it all up and am enjoying the simple fact we get all this, regardless).

However, I encourage my friends to watch comic movies/films, and LC and JJ would be my last recommendation.

Cant wait to get back to Iron Fist as soon as this UCLA game is over.

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You said it's best when you said this is all personal opinion, for sure. And everything you said is fair enough, but also exactly what I would have said about JJ and LC. LC was just bad, and JJ was boring. (don't get me wrong, I soaked it all up and am enjoying the simple fact we get all this, regardless).

However, I encourage my friends to watch comic movies/films, and LC and JJ would be my last recommendation.

Cant wait to get back to Iron Fist as soon as this UCLA game is over.

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You said it's best when you said this is all personal opinion, for sure. And everything you said is fair enough, but also exactly what I would have said about JJ and LC. LC was just bad, and JJ was boring. (don't get me wrong, I soaked it all up and am enjoying the simple fact we get all this, regardless).

However, I encourage my friends to watch comic movies/films, and LC and JJ would be my last recommendation.

Cant wait to get back to Iron Fist as soon as this UCLA game is over.

Go Bruins!
Encourage your African-American friends to see Luke Cage, especially the ones older than 30. There was a nod to 70s black explotation that was both nostalgic and new and fresh at the same time. I'm not sure everyone can appreciate that. It's funny i'm half black and white and parent are divorced but with my dad we would watch those shows all the time and he LOVED Luke for bringing that feeling back- so anyone that appreciated those movies back in the day would probably really love Luke Cage.

JJ wasn't like any other super hero movie or show I had seen before, it was so original and so full of emotion. I get that it might not have worked for everyone but it's critical acclaim might be a reason to reccomend that to friends.

But Iron Fist, is by the far the least original or inspired one of the bunch by a long shot. I would only recomend this one to hardciore Marvel fans. I am progressively enjoying the show more and more w/each episode (Just started e3pisode 10 now), but i'm not sure others will be as patient.

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3 episodes in, and it's definitely not as bad as the reviews led me to believe. In fact, I'm enjoying it at least as much as Luke Cage, though I do feel Finn Jones is the weakest link (much like Colter, imo) and it's lacking an engaging Cottonmouth-esque character.

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3 episodes in, and it's definitely not as bad as the reviews led me to believe. In fact, I'm enjoying it at least as much as Luke Cage, though I do feel Finn Jones is the weakest link (much like Colter, imo) and it's lacking an engaging Cottonmouth-esque character.
I think a lot of people are rather confused by the RT score, but that's why we don't take it as gospel (though, TBH, I do pay attention to it). I have 3 or 4 episodes to go and am rather enjoying it.

Danny is kind of, well, stupid for my brand of hero. Not everybody needs to be super smart, but you'd think after all the training he had he wouldn't be so, well, stupid.....he has the emotional IQ of a piece of lint.

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I think a lot of people are rather confused by the RT score, but that's why we don't take it as gospel (though, TBH, I do pay attention to it). I have 3 or 4 episodes to go and am rather enjoying it.

Danny is kind of, well, stupid for my brand of hero. Not everybody needs to be super smart, but you'd think after all the training he had he wouldn't be so, well, stupid.....he has the emotional IQ of a piece of lint.
He's a child and gets called out on his stupidity quite a bit especially from Claire which actually helped my enjoyment of it because it solidified that he was intentionally written that way.

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He's a child and gets called out on his stupidity quite a bit especially from Claire which actually helped my enjoyment of it because it solidified that he was intentionally written that way.
I can see your perspective, but it's not my cup of tea.

EDIT: Don't get me wrong. I LIKE IF and I like Finn. I just would have done the portrayal differently. I also actually like the fact that the enemy is somewhat blurred and think it can move into something REALLY interesting.

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I think with a new fight choreography + Jones having time to get in actual shape it'll be 10/10

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Yep. I'm sure he'll be even better in the Defenders.

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I'm on episode 7 now and I'm really enjoying the series so far. Its not perfect, but its nowhere near being the disaster some are saying it is.

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2 episodes in until I get home from work. But god, this thing is excruciatingly slow. I was 30 minutes into the second episode when I realized, jack squat happened still. Literally not much happens in the first hour and a half. I don't understand all the praise it's getting from some of you guys, even saying it's better than JJ? This thing better pick up soon though. As a big fan of Marvel Netflix, I'm obligated to finish this, but I don't want this to be a chore.

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Do we have a spoiler thread yet?

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Just made one.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=526097

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