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Old 04-24-2016, 03:39 PM   #51
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85m less than tdkr but far more than the dark knight which is impressive considering alla the doubts about the marketing and the cast. In any case the ww box office performance is comparable or superior to many blockbusters: iron man, the winter soldier, even star wars episode 3 etc.

You are right since Batman Begins and Superman Retuns, 2 Batman movies topped 1b and a Superman movie did 650m. And exactly for this reason 1) a BvS able to do more of TDK overseas is an impressive result and 2) people should start to recognize Snyder's role in relaunching DCU.
In this forum I read so many times "Snyder ruined Superman" and "MOS will hurt BvS opening week end". I saw a different story.
I still don't see any evidence that a Batman and Superman movie would have been an easy 1b movie, expecially because Nolan's trilogy was a different story. We all love sh movies and we know very well how difficult is rebooting a franchise: You would have been right probably with Christian Bale playing Batman in BvS.
All considered BvS has been a vere successful sh movie. The problem with legs IMO is because of the dark and dramatic tone of Miller's TDKR and The Death of Superman stories. A lighter tone would have helped for sure.
We will see how JL and Suicide Squad will perform.


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Old 04-24-2016, 04:00 PM   #52
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85m less than tdkr but far more than the dark knight which is impressive considering alla the doubts about the marketing and the cast. In any case the ww box office performance is comparable or superior to many blockbusters: iron man, the winter soldier, even star wars episode 3 etc.

You are right since Batman Begins and Superman Retuns, 2 Batman movies topped 1b and a Superman movie did 650m. And exactly for this reason 1) a BvS able to do more of TDK overseas is an impressive result and 2) people should start to recognize Snyder's role in relaunching DCU.
In this forum I read so many times "Snyder ruined Superman" and "MOS will hurt BvS opening week end". I saw a different story.
I still don't see any evidence that a Batman and Superman movie would have been an easy 1b movie, expecially because Nolan's trilogy was a different story. We all love sh movies and we know very well how difficult is rebooting a franchise: You would have been right probably with Christian Bale playing Batman in BvS.
All considered BvS has been a vere successful sh movie. The problem with legs IMO is because of the dark and dramatic tone of Miller's TDKR and The Death of Superman stories. A lighter tone would have helped for sure.
We will see how JL and Suicide Squad will perform.
This definitely wasn't any darker than the stories Nolan told. The legs are due to poor WOM, and the earnings are high due to high pre-release hype. It had an unusually low CinemaScore and the audience score on RT, only counting votes after release, is around 40% IIRC.

If the movie had at least a decent multiplier it would have easily made 1 billion. There was a ton of hype for this movie, as the OW showed. That's definitely worrying. The OW is based much on marketing, the legs on the movie itself.

If a movie that's around the point of breaking even at the BO (as the various estimations indicate) is called "very successful" I wonder what superlatives we must go to in order to describe something like Deadpool?

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The truth is, anyone who has examined the DC superhero movies made in the past 10 years that weren't directed by Christopher Nolan could've seen this coming. Aside from the TDK trilogy, none of the other superhero movies really worked. Both SR and GL were supposed to get a sequel but due to their respective movies' disappointing BO, WB cancelled those projects. WB has always been proud in letting the world know that they don't handicap the creativity of their directors, but without oversight the quality fluctuates and hard to maintain. Martin Campbell, who directed Goldeneye and Casino Royale, was also responsible for Green Lantern.

However, unlike the movies in the past, WB is now committed to a DCEU, which means that they cannot just pull out of the sequels like they used to do and must stick to the schedule. What they did not foresee is the critical maligning of BVS and its BO disappointment. But like riding on top of a wild horse, WB can't get off easily, and they have to let Snyder direct JL or else the whole DCEU may collapse. If SS and WW turned out to be amazing movies, the reputation of this franchise might be salvaged, but I'm not too optimistic about it.
You're talking to one of them. And I'm gonna continue to cash in on me being right about this. People were not heeding history's lessons. It's not just the directors, it's the studio and the executives. These characters should not be with WB. They are so wrong for them and they will cause their downfall bringing the characters with it. I feel bad for these characters, not the studio who will continue to know failure.

Following this film's disappointment, I do think this is gonna put a dent in SS's numbers, even if it's great, followed by WW. They can't afford that at all for these solo movies most of all. Do not underestimate the good will from the previous films. Feige was on point about that.

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85m less than tdkr but far more than the dark knight which is impressive considering alla the doubts about the marketing and the cast.
It's only impressive if you willfully ignore the fact that the overseas market was significantly smaller eight years ago. Combined with the fact that TDK had no 3D and didn't open in China.

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a couple of facts to look at

- gets beaten for #1 by The Boss
- knocked out of top 5 this weekend
- zootopia is still top 5 and it came out 3 weeks before BVS
- has no chance in hell of beating deadpool domestically - needs over 40 million more domestically to beat it
- wont hit 1 billion mark with batman,wonder woman and superman in the same film
-BvS was too smart people want a dumb movie so they go see McCarthy
-Knocked out the top 5 doesn't matter
-Zootopia is kid friendly and fluffy so of course it made more
-We still beat DeadPool worldwide
-This was never meant to make a billion
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-BvS was too smart people want a dumb movie so they go see McCarthy
-Knocked out the top 5 doesn't matter
-Zootopia is kid friendly and fluffy so of course it made more
-We still beat DeadPool worldwide
-This was never meant to make a billion
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I predicted it will not make a billion before it came out due to MOS and Watchmen not being everyone's cup of tea. It's mine but I could understand this and those will not be total crowd pleasers like Avengers and Civil War.

But I'm also predicting that 95% in here that hated BVS will still watch Suicide Squad, WW, and JL part 1 on opening weekend.

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I predicted it will not make a billion before it came out due to MOS and Watchmen not being everyone's cup of tea. It's mine but I could understand this and those will not be total crowd pleasers like Avengers and Civil War.

But I'm also predicting that 95% in here that hated BVS will still watch Suicide Squad, WW, and JL part 1 on opening weekend.
I will of course see Suicide Squad, it looks like the polar opposite of BvS in terms of tone. I will also see WW because she was the only part of BvS I enjoyed and Snyder is not directing it.

I will not see JL opening weekend, I got burned by seeing BvS and not listening to critics. If word of mouth is good then I will of course reconsider.

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Suicide Squad, yes.

Wonder Woman maybe, depending on how it looks.

JL, hell no. Waiting till Netflix or Blu-Ray.

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I predicted it will not make a billion before it came out due to MOS and Watchmen not being everyone's cup of tea. It's mine but I could understand this and those will not be total crowd pleasers like Avengers and Civil War.

But I'm also predicting that 95% in here that hated BVS will still watch Suicide Squad, WW, and JL part 1 on opening weekend.
First two, you're spot on. Third one, not a ****ing chance.

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I'll be waiting for redbox on every DCEU film unless I hear from a trusted friend that I need to go watch it. MoS built up that goodwill, and BvS obliterated it.

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So a month later and it's not even in the top 5.

Do we have a dvd date yet?

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I'll be waiting for redbox on every DCEU film unless I hear from a trusted friend that I need to go watch it. MoS built up that goodwill, and BvS obliterated it.
talk about overreaction

i didn't like bvs either but wonder woman and suicide squad are not directed by snyder

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I predicted it will not make a billion before it came out due to MOS and Watchmen not being everyone's cup of tea. It's mine but I could understand this and those will not be total crowd pleasers like Avengers and Civil War.

But I'm also predicting that 95% in here that hated BVS will still watch Suicide Squad, WW, and JL part 1 on opening weekend.
SS I am there for sure. Need to see the Joker for myself.

WW I'll wait for pos or neg WOM.

SNYDER JL. Not a chance.I am getting off the Snyder train.

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How are we so sure anyone wants the job?

"Here, you take all these DC licenses and for the next 10 years make a universe of movies just as good as the MCU."

Seriously who would take that job to devote that much time to an universe that will be nothing more than a copy of the MCU?
The truth is that Feige was partially an architect in forming the MCU in the first place. He was a major part of the braintrust in directing the course of plan. Everyone else see the success Marvel obtained and immediately wanted to start their own. WB was in such a different predicament riding the Nolan Batman wave and was faced with having to reboot Batman who was going to be instrumental in starting its universe. Very little time to build characters through solos like marvel did. Just throw them all in this film and go from there. Bad idea to me.

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Looking at Captain America: Civil War Box Office Prediction thread: http://forums.superherohype.com/show...487909&page=33 , 1.5 billion dollars got the most votes.


It's pretty clear that the movie will reach a billion dollars, and when Spider-man showed up, 1.5 billion dollars is possible.

As for BvS, I really don't like the fact that they were trying to emphasize a fight between these two greatest heroes. It's not really a good idea to have them fight, especially that they showed us a fight which Batman was winning.

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talk about overreaction

i didn't like bvs either but wonder woman and suicide squad are not directed by snyder
I don't think so. I paid money for their film series so far, bought a blu-ray. Not interested in SS anyway, less so now. Wonder Woman may perk my interest once a trailer comes out but that's a long ways from now. Justice League is pretty much off my radar at the moment.

I'd prefer to watch super hero films that actually convey some heroism.

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Suicide Squad looks awesome
Wonder Woman may be good
Justice League Part 1 can **** off if Snyder directs

Side note: was rewatching the Wonder Woman sneak peak from that DCEU special. Funny how Patty says about Wonder Woman is "how good and kind and loving she is"



Patty should tell Snyder what those words mean as in "good" and "kind" and "loving"

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Wonder Woman maybe, depending on how it looks.

JL, hell no. Waiting till Netflix or Blu-Ray.
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Box office prediction:

Raising my forecasts for the second time which is good news, still disappointing but a little less disappointing due to the international BO

Domestic: $331M to a maximum of $341M

International: $545M to a maximum of $555M

Total worldwide: $876M to a maximum of $896M

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LULZ is this real life?

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LULZ is this real life?
Yeah, but the killer is this: 'Ant-Man 2' will probably outgross JL based on the goodwill (and bad will) from the first movies. Especially because apparently Ant-Man is rumored to steal a major scene in 'Civil War'.

This is how it's done, WB. Have faith in your characters. Build a creative team based on their rigorous understanding and appreciation of the characters' central appeal. And then... Profit.

You idiots.

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you mean the flavor of the month

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clearly. If it's made 300 Mil less

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Suicide Squad looks awesome
Wonder Woman may be good
Justice League Part 1 can **** off if Snyder directs

Side note: was rewatching the Wonder Woman sneak peak from that DCEU special. Funny how Patty says about Wonder Woman is "how good and kind and loving she is"



Patty should tell Snyder what those words mean as in "good" and "kind" and "loving"
.....Snyder paid to have a proto-language developed so he could engrave "Life is killing" on her sword and shield....

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