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Old 12-11-2017, 12:52 PM   #1
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Default It's happened in comics... why not DC/Marvel crossover films?

While this is a nonexistent possibility due to Marvel Studios being a money machine for Disney. But DC and Warners aren't in a similar situation. No one imagined Sony would partner with Marvel to produce more Spidey films, nor Disney would be in a position to acquire X-Men/Fantastic Four due to the pending Fox acquisition.

However, there are marked examples of DC and Marvel partnering for crossover comics over the decades... Spider-Man and Superman having two separate crossover stories. Teen Titans vs. Uncanny X-Men. Even a Green Lantern/Silver Surfer story is out there.... the list goes on.

The main difficulty of doing these crossovers is not just inter-studio cooperation, but who would be the guiding force behind the scenes? Would Feige and Geoff Johns work together or clash? Would there be casting continuity or new faces recast? Which studio would release in North America and who would handle international?

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Old 12-11-2017, 01:05 PM   #2
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On film, it's never gonna happen, for one, the sheer scale of expense of budget and combined actor's fees, but I suspect the biggest hurdle would be the scheduling, trying to get that many actors on set for their scenes together over a year's filming would be nigh on impossible.

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Old 12-11-2017, 01:21 PM   #3
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Default Re: It's happened in comics... why not DC/Marvel crossover films?

At the moment the DCEU can't even get crossing over with their own heroes right.

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Old 12-11-2017, 01:42 PM   #4
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At the moment the DCEU can't even get crossing over with their own heroes right.
True, but in a few years this may be the new "Sell the rights back to Marvel." Now it will be, "WB, give Disney the DC rights!"

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Old 12-11-2017, 01:43 PM   #5
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In the words of Kevin Feige, never say never.

But that said, I don't see this happening, LOL!

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This would be cool...but no way it happens this century.

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Old 12-11-2017, 01:54 PM   #7
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On film, it's never gonna happen, for one, the sheer scale of expense of budget and combined actor's fees, but I suspect the biggest hurdle would be the scheduling, trying to get that many actors on set for their scenes together over a year's filming would be nigh on impossible.
I doubt that Warners and Disney would even want to do a JL/Avengers crossover. It would just be too expensive (even with two studios sharing the cost) and a scheduling nightmare.

A more realistic scenario would likely be crossover films with one main character from each company. Those can be done at the studios' desired budget and easier scheduling.

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Old 12-11-2017, 02:03 PM   #8
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I doubt that Warners and Disney would even want to do a JL/Avengers crossover. It would just be too expensive (even with two studios sharing the cost) and a scheduling nightmare.

A more realistic scenario would likely be crossover films with one main character from each company. Those can be done at the studios' desired budget and easier scheduling.
Cap A v Superman or Iron Man v Batman may work.

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If this were to happen, I'd like it to be a celebration of the genre on a meta level. Maybe make the movie from the perspective of the fans.

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Old 12-11-2017, 02:34 PM   #10
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If this were to happen, I'd like it to be a celebration of the genre on a meta level. Maybe make the movie from the perspective of the fans.
Entitle it, 'We need to talk about Kevin'....

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I was thinking something like this:

There's a child who loves superheroes. They read the comics, play the games and watch the movies. The child decides to create the ultimate superhero story, using characters from both Marvel & DC. The story is full of all the fun character moments, plot twists, action and tropes that we love in these movies.

As the child is creating this story, they unfortunately face some hard times. Maybe the child is bullied or they lose a family member or they lose opportunities in life, whatever. The child grows and forgets about the childish heroes. The story is left unfinished. They become depressed and maybe start to do something criminal.

But something brings back the memories of what the child used to believe in. That you can make a difference. That you can do the right thing, even when it's hard. That there is some good in the world. The child turns their life around, regains hope for better days, and finishes the most kick-ass superhero story ever imagined. Where the heroes save the day, like they always do.

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Old 12-11-2017, 03:09 PM   #12
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Cap A v Superman or Iron Man v Batman may work.
I was thinking Superman v Spider-Man, what with them having several comic stories together. Much easier to adapt to a script. I don't know if Holland's Spidey would mesh well with Cavill's Superman though.

The thing with pitting Steve v. Clark or Tony v. Bruce is that... well, the characters paired are similar to each other (but so different too). A CA vs. Superman film would be interesting conceptually.

Robert Downey Jr.'s Tony would just hog all the screentime from Affleck's Bruce or whoever is playing Batman next.

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Old 12-11-2017, 03:13 PM   #13
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Maybe they can do a animated one

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Old 12-11-2017, 06:43 PM   #14
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That would be a cop-out.

If the studios were to work together on DC/Marvel crossovers, it has to be live-action first.

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Old 12-11-2017, 07:09 PM   #15
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True, but in a few years this may be the new "Sell the rights back to Marvel." Now it will be, "WB, give Disney the DC rights!"
Marvel could probably make a better DC film in the spirit of the comics or the JL cartoon.

Maybe we'll get a thread called "Keep hope alive that the DC rights will go to Marvel."

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Old 12-11-2017, 08:07 PM   #16
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The natural inclination would probably be to do a vs. movie and that would have a lot of difficulty in making both teams reasonable and likeable and even if they didn't do that it really wouldn't make sense to do a movie with so many characters, both the Avengers and Justice League, both in giving most of the characters little attention and what could be an interesting enough story and challenge for them.

For involving fewer characters like Spider-Man/Superman or Iron Man or Captain America with Batman, there would still be the problem of sharing the spotlight and not making at least one seem less likeable.

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No point even bothering until WB can manage to bring their DC movies up to consistent par. So, call me back when they can make more than one decent movie in a row.

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No point.

Batman would win.

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Marvel wouldn't touch the DCEU with a thirty-nine-and-a-half-foot pole.

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Maybe they can do a animated one
THAT sounds almost vaguely plausible in some strange world.

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I was thinking Superman v Spider-Man, what with them having several comic stories together. Much easier to adapt to a script. I don't know if Holland's Spidey would mesh well with Cavill's Superman though.

The thing with pitting Steve v. Clark or Tony v. Bruce is that... well, the characters paired are similar to each other (but so different too). A CA vs. Superman film would be interesting conceptually.

Robert Downey Jr.'s Tony would just hog all the screentime from Affleck's Bruce or whoever is playing Batman next.
I don't know, Affleck v Downey Jr would be an 'arrogance' face-off to beat all....

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Marvel could probably make a better DC film in the spirit of the comics or the JL cartoon.

Maybe we'll get a thread called "Keep hope alive that the DC rights will go to Marvel."
Yep, give it a few years and that will be the next frontier for the boards!

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Bruce Wayne to Steve Rogers: "I want to kick you in your perfect wig."
Shouldn't that be the other way round....

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so, now that Disney owns parts of Batman, can we start the "Bring DC to Disney" thread now?

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