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Old 01-16-2014, 06:21 PM   #51
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Caveat: I'm not familiar with the character or the actor.

That said, we've already got at least 3 MCU characters who've miraculously survived from WWII (Cap, Bucky, Zola, and possibly Red Skull). And while that makes sense for a CA movie, where his past is haunting him, I'm not sure often they can pull that card before the GA tires of it. It might make more sense to just set him in modern times.

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Old 01-16-2014, 11:01 PM   #52
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It's a comic book movie, if it's good the GA won't care. They'll just go with it.

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Old 01-17-2014, 03:05 AM   #53
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I've got to be honest, I find it highly unlike they will go with the magic potion that makes him never age idea. It would take too long to explain in a movie that's really more about Ultron and they haven't established it with fury yet who it appears ages normally in the MCU.

Well, normally for Samuel l jackson

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Old 01-17-2014, 08:27 AM   #54
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The best bet is that he is the son of the WWII Baron. They did this with Zemo in the books, there is no reason why it wouldn't work with Strucker too.

To use the title 'Baron' during the Third Reich is unrealistic anyway, most blue blooded NSDAP members (Baldur von Schirach, Kurt von Barisani etc.) dropped their titles. Karl Freiherr von Michel-Tüßling was one of very few exceptions who kept them and none of those who did was Baron anyway. Baron was more WWI stuff.

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Old 01-17-2014, 08:36 AM   #55
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The best bet is that he is the son of the WWII Baron. They did this with Zemo in the books, there is no reason why it wouldn't work with Strucker too.

To use the title 'Baron' during the Third Reich is unrealistic anyway, most blue blooded NSDAP members (Baldur von Schirach, Kurt von Barisani etc.) dropped their titles. Karl Freiherr von Michel-Tüßling was one of very few exceptions who kept them and none of those who did was Baron anyway. Baron was more WWI stuff.
I don't think anyone's going to be thinking about the Baron title so much that realism will come into play. And they might do the son thing with Zemo down the line, so I could see them not wanting to do the same with the Baron.

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Old 01-17-2014, 12:09 PM   #56
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It's already difficult seeling Howard Stark father Tony giving their age discrepancies from 1944 to the 2010's. I wouldn't make everyone related. Just keep Zemo/Strucker as separate, unrelated characters. As for Baron Zemo, seems like the opportunity to use him has sailed. I would have saved another WWII story for him. Just curious as to why Strucker won out. Maybe they save Zemo for Cap 3, and they do some flashbacks if they want to stick with that WWII origin? But I wouldn't want too many Barons in the modern day.

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Old 01-17-2014, 02:25 PM   #57
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The baron thing is kind of interesting if it's done right though. A guy who builds an egotistical empire like a lot of psychopaths do and starts giving himself titles like he's the chosen one or something.

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It's already difficult seeling Howard Stark father Tony giving their age discrepancies from 1944 to the 2010's. I wouldn't make everyone related. Just keep Zemo/Strucker as separate, unrelated characters. As for Baron Zemo, seems like the opportunity to use him has sailed. I would have saved another WWII story for him. Just curious as to why Strucker won out. Maybe they save Zemo for Cap 3, and they do some flashbacks if they want to stick with that WWII origin? But I wouldn't want too many Barons in the modern day.
Zemo should really be saved to organize the Masters of Evil/Liberators, imo.

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Old 01-18-2014, 11:43 AM   #59
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Old 01-19-2014, 01:30 PM   #61
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Looks like a really good casting choice.

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Old 02-08-2014, 07:18 AM   #62
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Been thinking about this lately:

What if Baron Von Strucker is the Red Skull?

Not Johann Schmidt Red Skull, but a *new* one.

The MCU has already altered HYDRA's comic-book history by making their origins in WWII, and by making Johann Schmidt their leader and organizer. If modern HYDRA is dedicated to keeping their forefathers' "ideals" alive, wouldn't it make sense that they still idolize Skully as well?

We know from interviews that Hugo Weaving has no interest in returning to the role at all. We know that general audiences will probably draw the line at some point at all the WWII buddies/villains "miraculously" following Cap into the present day, so maybe it's best to just ditch the canonical time-jumping story for Red Skull, and instead explain it simply as someone keeping the iconic imagery alive today --- i.e., Von Strucker? It's still a canonical nod to the fact that Red Skull is still Cap's archvillain in the modern era as well as the Golden Age. Plus it gives "Crossbones" more of a canonical fit, with Rumlow taking the nickname and mask to be Skull's right-hand man.

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What if all Cap villains are the Red Skull?

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Old 02-08-2014, 09:59 AM   #64
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I wonder of we'll get Strucker's introduction in the after-credits scene of TWS. According to reports:
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So Strucker showing up as well would make sense.

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I hope that this Strucker is just a man of his own age and not a super-soldier-serum guy (if he was a Nazi, how did he get it and not get a red skull, eh?). Also I'm not hung up if he doesn't have the electric claw-glove.

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Old 02-27-2014, 02:45 PM   #69
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I never realised that Chris Pratt was that guy in Wanted!

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so is "Baron" going to be this guy's first name or will he supposedly be descended from German royalty?

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so is "Baron" going to be this guy's first name or will he supposedly be descended from German royalty?
His first name is Wolfgang.

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Old 03-03-2014, 07:40 PM   #72
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Krestchmann is a really, really good choice.

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will Zemo be a skilled swordsman in the film?

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Krestchmann is playing Baron Strucker, not Baron Zemo.

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