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Old Yesterday, 09:48 AM   #426
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It's certainly not rape or assault but I do think that the conversation around his actions is a fairly important one. No one with their head on straight is lumping him in with Weinstein and Spacey (at least I hope not), but you don't have to be on that extreme level to treat another human being inappropriately.
exactly

he's not a monster, just an a-hole

and sadly, many men are just like him

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It's certainly not rape or assault but I do think that the conversation around his actions is a fairly important one. No one with their head on straight is lumping him in with Weinstein and Spacey (at least I hope not), but you don't have to be on that extreme level to treat another human being inappropriately.
Ansari in that situation seems to have given plenty non verbal cues that he really much wanted only to get laid, it goes both ways.
Just wanting sex from someone is not wrong per se, empty maybe, but nobody is entitled to romantic consideration either.
Was Ansari pathetically numb to how that woman was feeling? Yeah.
But she is not a child, she should be autonomous enough to leave or discern the situation.
We should stop infantilizing women, it's a disservice to victims and the small steps forward of the last months.

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Bill Maher nailed it in the last 5 minutes of his show earlier.
I happened to agree with most of what he said...doubtless I'll be labeled as a POS for it, but Maher spoke a lot of sense to me.

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I'm amazed it has come to the point this has to be even debated.

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I'm amazed it has come to the point this has to be even debated.

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I happened to agree with most of what he said...doubtless I'll be labeled as a POS for it, but Maher spoke a lot of sense to me.
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Timothée Chalamet Says Contract Blocked Him From Criticizing Woody Allen, Supporting Dylan Farrow. It Didn’t.

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I think the negativity is aimed at the wrong places when it comes to actors working with Woody. People are going after them for continuing to work with Woody but shouldn’t you go after the movie studios, producers who keep giving him the opportunities to work and make these movies?

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go after everyone

studios and stars working with him are both his enablers

BURN IT ALL DOWN

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go after everyone

studios and stars working with him are both his enablers

BURN IT ALL DOWN
Just send WWE Wrestler Braun Strowman after him:


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go after everyone

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I can understand going after the seasoned pros for working with him, they’re good enough in their careers they don’t need to work with him, but I think it can be a bit unfair going after a young guy who’s career is just starting out. Sad reality is if you get offered a role in a Woody Allen movie do you not take it?

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I can understand going after the seasoned pros for working with him, they’re good enough in their careers they don’t need to work with him, but I think it can be a bit unfair going after a young guy who’s career is just starting out. Sad reality is if you get offered a role in a Woody Allen movie do you not take it?
No you don't take it. If you're behind this sentiment of Times Up and Me Too and believing women.

If you wanna say: "Well nothings been proven with Allen" then ok do your thing

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No you don't take it. If you're behind this sentiment of Times Up and Me Too and believing women.

If you wanna say: "Well nothings been proven with Allen" then ok do your thing
It's wonderful to have the economic freedom to pick and choose job opportunities based on your employer's morality. Unfortunately, most of us are not so lucky. While I would prefer not to be supervised by a presumed child molester, my family's well being will always take preference over my personal distaste.

Its ok to ask power players to stand up against Allen, but unfair to do the same for those living paycheck to paycheck.

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inb4 the token "Everyone in the entertainment industry is filthy rich and should prioritize moral decisions over their financial wellbeing" comment.

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It's wonderful to have the economic freedom to pick and choose job opportunities based on your employer's morality. Unfortunately, most of us are not so lucky. While I would prefer not to be supervised by a presumed child molester, my family's well being will always take preference over my personal distaste.

Its ok to ask power players to stand up against Allen, but unfair to do the same for those living paycheck to paycheck.
Very true. But a lot of the people working for Allen at least the actors have a wide breadth of offers to choose from. A lot of these are people who appear in multiple movies a year. Indies or not

Greta Gerwig, Timothée Chalamet, Colin Firth, Scarlett Johannson, Emma Stone, and to another example James McAvoy, Olivia Munn, Michael Fassbender aren't exactly hurting for roles.

If is one of these people that is "I believe women" or be this huge feminist and still goes and works with Allen who has been accused (I think multiple times) of sexual misconduct, then that's silly. Money issues or not. But I would still get that because you gotta eat. Besides we all turn a blind eye to things to get what we want (slave labor, sexism, racism, etc.)
But then don't come out and say: "Oh I regret it," now that people are turning on Allen.
Stand on your own 2 and be real "I love his movies" "I needed the role." Don't try and be trendy and go back on your actions. That's just dumb.

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