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Old 04-28-2018, 09:34 AM   #151
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2018 just handed the MCU its two best villains in Thanos and Killmonger.

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Old 04-29-2018, 06:14 AM   #152
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Disappointed the Winter Soldier is not being discussed. I know Alexander Pierce was the main villain of the movie but WS was the big threat for our characters and he was absolutely fantastic, like a modern version of the Terminator. Before Thanos, he was easily the scariest villain.

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Old 04-29-2018, 06:57 AM   #153
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Phase One
#1- Loki
#2- Iron Monger
#3- Red Skull
#4- Whiplash
#5- Abomination

Phase Two
#1- Ultron
#2- Winter Soldier
#3- Aldrich Killian
#4- Yellowjacket
#5- Ronan
#6- Malekith

Phase Three
#1- Thanos
#2- Killmonger
#3- Vulture
#4- Hela
#5- Ego
#6- Kaecilius (only ranking *super*villains, so Zemo's left out)

Overall - Awesome villains
#1- Thanos
#2- Loki
#3- Killmonger
#4- Vulture
#5- Hela
#6- Ultron
#7- Winter Soldier
#8- Ego
#9- Iron Monger

Decent villains
#10- Red Skull
#11- Whiplash
#12- Abomination

Forgettable villains
#13- Aldrich Killian
#14- Yellowjacket

The other ones
#15- Kaecilius
#16- Ronan
#17- Malekith


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Old 05-09-2018, 09:22 AM   #154
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Phase Three Rankings:

1. Thanos
2. Killmonger
3. Vulture
4. Hela
5. Ego
6. Zemo
7. Kaecilius

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Old 05-09-2018, 09:28 AM   #155
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Phase One

#1- Loki
#2- Red Skull
#3- Justin Hammer
#4 - Iron Monger
#5- Whiplash
#6- Abomination

(#1-4 were largely regarded as good villains but were retroactively thrown in the "bad" pile once the villain problem became apparent)

Phase Two

1- Ultron
2- Pierce
3- Yellowjacket
4- Ronan
5- Aldrich Killian
6- Malekith

(Yikes, these were pretty rough)

Phase Three

1 - Thanos
2 - Killmonger
3 - Vulture
4 - Hela
5 - Ego
6 - Zemo
7 - Kaecilius

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Old 05-09-2018, 01:38 PM   #156
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Updated to reflect the inclusion of the Mad Titan:

Phase 1:

Loki
Red Skull
Iron Monger
Abomination
Whiplash

Phase 2:

Ultron
Ronan
Alexander Pierce
Yellowjacket
Aldrich Killian
Malekith

Phase 3:

Thanos
Killmonger
Ego
Hela
Zemo
Vulture
Kaecilius

The phase 3 list is very close 3-6

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Old 05-11-2018, 12:15 AM   #157
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Phase 1:

1) Loki
2) Iron Monger
3) Red Skull
4) Abomination
5) Whiplash

Brief explanation.

In Avengers Loki was a fairly generic (but charismatic) villain however in Thor Loki was excellent. He had a relationship with the MC, displayed feelings and affection for multiple characters (including Thor) and you understood why he went bat **** crazy.

Iron Monger was a fairly generic villain in motives but the dude (no pun intended) is just so damn likeable, riding a segway with a cigar, offering pizza to Tony (but limiting it to two slices, cause he was angry).

Red Skull was also fairly generic in motivation, but he was similarly played very well by Weaving (very charismatic), had a dope design to boot.

I think the concept behind Abomination was cool, an old veteran who feels outdated and wants to stay at the top (at the cost of anything). He did come off on the more generic side, but the template was there.

Whiplash also had a good template and started off very strong (great motivation and reasoning, better then Tony at being Tony), but after he gets captured the first time I forget pretty much everything he does lol. I understand they had troubles with the actor which I assume is why he was neglected to the sidelines, it really is a damn shame.

Phase 2:

1) Ultron
2) Aldrich Killian
3) Ronan
4) Yellowjacket
5) Alexander Pierce
6) Malekith

Ultron is the only genuinely good villain in this phase. The concept behind him was cool, he had some very sharp dialogue and Spader made him very charismatic. He also had a decent amount of depth, like showing care for Scarlet when she was in danger and sorrow when the twins left his side. I think what really detracts from him as a villain is his lack of presence (I didnt feel him as a threat) and his end game, which was frankly just dumb.

Killian was decent, I liked the concept behind him, wanting to control things from the sidelines rather then being at the forefront. I also felt bad for him and its understandable why he did some of the stuff he did. That said he never truly had a great scene, his dialogue was never anything special and his fighting abilities weren't that enjoyable. He also the replacement for the actual Mandarin smh.

Ronan is pretty bad, had a few funny moments towards the end but thats because of his reactions to the Guardians more then himself being funny. He did feel like a threat at least but jesus was he generic.

Yellowjacket was also just straight up generic, I honestly dont remember much about him which says a lot.

Alexander Pierce who? I mean seriously I vaguely remember him cause he was in an awesome movie but man was he forgettable in every way.

Malekith? Garbage. Doesnt get much worse as far as villains go, Kurse was better and he didnt even talk.

Phase 3:

1) Thanos
2) Killmonger
3) Vulture
4) Zemo
5) EGO
6) Hela
7) Kaecillius

Thanos was the best villain in the MCU, he was the first time we saw a villain as essentially the protagonist of the story. You understand why he is doing what he is doing even if you dont agree with him, he shows plenty of depth (with his relationship with Gamora) and he respected his opponents if they deserved respect (like Starlord and Stark). He was also a threat and felt like it and literally won in the end. It really doesnt get much better.

Killmonger was fantastic, you understood where he was coming from and he forced the MC to change his ways (i.e. fuelled the MCs development, which is the objective of a villain character). He was also charismatic and a truly GOAT death scene.

Vulture was the everyday man, he was relatable. He was a bad dude but he has his morals, not evil for the sake of being evil.

Zemo was amazing on paper, but in the grand scheme of things the thing that prevented him from being higher is his remarkable lack of presence in the story. His motivations make sense and the fact that he can break apart the Avengers where other super beings have tried and failed is note worthy.

Ego was dope, dude just seemed like a cool dude (basically Starlord 2.0)....until he was revealed to be an egotistical planet destroying planet. Very akin to Iron Monger in many ways as a villain and what made him work.

Hela was cool, generic af but she made it work with her charisma and presence. Definitely felt unstoppable .

Kaecillius is the only real *bad* phase 2 level villain in this phase. He had a few funny moments but man was he forgettable, he was basically a Dormammu henchmen and it showed. If he came back then he has room to grow, as it stands hes not good.

Overall it goes Phase 3 >>> Phase 1 >> Phase 2 villains.

1) Thanos
2) Killmonger
3) Loki (Thor movie)
4) Ultron
5) Vulture
6) Zemo
7) Iron Monger
8) EGO
9) Hela
10) Red Skull
11) Aldrich Killian
12) Abomination
13) Whiplash
14) Ronan
15) Kaecillius
16) Yellowjacket
17) Alexander Pierce
18) Malekith

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Old 05-11-2018, 02:08 AM   #158
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Top Half
1 - Thanos
2 - Loki
3 - Zemo
4 - Killmonger

5 - Abomination
6 - Ego
7 - Pierce/Winter Soldier
8 - Vulture
9 - Ronan


Bottom Half
10 - Red Skull/Zola
11 - Hela
12 - Whiplash/Hammer
13 - Ultron
14 - Kaecilius
15 - Iron Monger
16 - Malekith/Kurse
17 - Yellowjacket
18 - Killian


Phase 1
Phase 2
Phase 3

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Old 05-11-2018, 08:33 AM   #159
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Default Re: Rank the Main Antagonists of the MCU by Phase

Loki
Red Skull
Iron Monger
Whiplash
Abomination

Ultron
Ronan
Killian
Malekith
Alexander Pierce
Yellowjacket

Thanos
Kilmonger
Vulture
Ego
Hela
Zemo
Kaecilius

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Old 05-11-2018, 09:16 AM   #160
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Phase One:
Loki
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Red Skull
Iron Monger
Whiplash
Abomination

Phase Two:
Ultron
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Ronan
Alexander Pierce
Malekith
Yellowjacket
Killian

Phase Three
Thanos
Killmonger
Hela
Zemo
Vulture
Kaecilius
Ego

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Old 05-11-2018, 09:26 AM   #161
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Phase 1:

Iron Monger
Loki (Thor)
Abomination
Loki (Avengers)
Red skull
Whiplash

Phase 2:

Alexander Pierce
Ronan
Aldrich Killian
Ultron
Yellowjacket
Malekith

Phase 3:

Thanos
Helmut Zemo
Ego
Killmonger
Hela
Vulture
Kaecilius

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Old 05-11-2018, 10:39 AM   #162
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Phase 3

Main Antagonists
Thanos
Killmonger
Hela
Ego
Toomes
Zemo
Kaecilius

Secondary Antagonists
Ebony Maw
Surtur
Grandmaster
Ayesha
Crossbones
Klaue
Dormammu
The Shocker

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Old 07-05-2018, 08:01 PM   #163
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Bumping for Ant-Man and the Wasp.

Phase 1

1. Loki
2. Red Skull
3. Iron Monger
4. Abomination
5. Whiplash


Phase 2

1. Ultron
2. Alexander Pierce
3. Ronan
4. Yellowjacket
5. Aldrich Killian
6. Malekith


Phase 3

1. Thanos
2. Erik Killmonger
3. Hela
4. Ego
5. Vulture
6. Zemo
7. Kaecilius
8. Ghost

Ant-Man and the Wasp spoilers:

Not that Ghost was a bad villain, but she was far too sympathetic. I'd still consider her the main villain though since she had no regard for Janet's life. Burch actually seemed like the real scumbag of the movie, but he never came off to me as a major threat.

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