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Old 07-11-2018, 01:20 PM   #201
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What is the essence of Nebula or Mantis that James Gunn captured and tremendously loves? Those seem like two examples of huge failures as adaptations, whether or not the new characters in the MCU are good ones.

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Old 07-11-2018, 01:31 PM   #202
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What is the essence of Nebula or Mantis that James Gunn captured and tremendously loves? Those seem like two examples of huge failures as adaptations, whether or not the new characters in the MCU are good ones.
I will admit that we haven't quite received "The Most Dangerous Woman in the Unvierse" vibe from Gamora. But Gunn did a wonderful job capturing their complex relationship to each other and to Thanos. Gillan has been great, and appears as though she were ripped right from the comics. Saldana was absolutely wonderful in Infinity War. I doubt many hardcore fans of both characters are complaining about their big screen portrayals.

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Old 07-11-2018, 01:44 PM   #203
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I find it funny how the fandom seems to enthusiastically support the MCU changing every female superhero costume while X-Men get nothing but grief no matter how faithful they are to the comics:

Well personally I've never hade the hate for the X-films that some other fans seem to. And honestly the problem with that was, yet again, context. All of the other Horsemen got outfits that looked both battle-ready and had a similar theme that tied them to Apocalypse. Whereas Psylocke, who had a less revealing outfit when she was working in Caliban's club, just has her comic one.

It made Apocalypse look like kind of a perv actually.

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Old 07-11-2018, 01:49 PM   #204
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MCU Black Widow has her '70s costume, yes.
Maria Hill doesn't wear the black spandex with white leather boots/belts, but otherwise counts.
Pepper Potts is a close match.

The Scarlet Witch doesn't even wear scarlet. She has a half black/half brick red outfit from Hot Topic. Compare, well, 5 comics options they had:



Gamora has worn a black bikini and Stormtrooper armor, and originally looked like this:



... which the MCU changed to colorless motorcycle leathers.

Marvel's original Mantis:



Marvel's original Valkyrie:



That's four superheroines they completely changed off the top of my head, vs. one superheroine and two supporting characters.
yeah, no you got the whole thing in your head.

Captain Marvel looks like the comics.
Scarlet Witch looks like the comics. Have you seen her Uncanny Avengers outfit?
Maria Hill looks like the comics.
Black Widow looks like the comics.
Okoye the same.
Nebula as well (she is more of her hero than villain).
Wasp looks just like the comics+ a helmet.

I count way more than just 2.

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Old 07-11-2018, 02:04 PM   #205
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yeah, no you got the whole thing in your head.
... he says while quoting 4 images of heroines who were completely changed by MCU directors.

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Captain Marvel looks like the comics.
Scarlet Witch looks like the comics. Have you seen her Uncanny Avengers outfit?
Captain Marvel I'll grant. I didn't know if the images online of Larson in the blue and red were official or shopped.
Yes, I've seen Wanda's Uncanny Avengers outfit:



If they changed it to look like the non-scarlet Hot Topic outfit since Summer 2015, that doesn't count.

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Maria Hill looks like the comics.
Black Widow looks like the comics.
Okoye the same.
Right, that's three. Five counting Pepper and Captain Marvel.

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Nebula as well (she is more of her hero than villain).
Wasp looks just like the comics+ a helmet.
Nebula:



Hope Pym:



Of course Hope is a special case because she was an obscuro "MC2" character. I'd have counted any of her mom's many costumes as "comics accurate".

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You should really read the Annihilation comic series. In it Nebula looks pretty damn close to her big screen counterpart.


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Also MCU Scarlet Witch's costumes is closer to her Uncanny Avengers one (although not exact).

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Old 07-11-2018, 02:42 PM   #208
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She-Hulk
Spider-Woman
Ms. Marvel
Spectrum
Elsa Bloodstone
Ms. America
Hawkeye
Stature
Tigra
Phyla-Vell
Moondragon
Angela
Silverclaw
Clea
Jocasta
Sersi
Songbird
Thundra
White Tiger
Added two more characters, White Tiger and Thundra. See? It simply isn't true that Marvel doesn't have access to good superheroines. "But but but the X-Women!!!" is just an excuse.

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Lol. I actually like some of these costumes, but it's so true.

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Old 07-11-2018, 02:46 PM   #209
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You should really read the Annihilation comic series. In it Nebula looks pretty damn close to her big screen counterpart.
Oh, huh. So she's been a cyborg since 2006? Fair enough.

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Let's look at what Marvel have to work with in terms of new female heroes.

Avengers: Tigra, She-Hulk, Spider-Woman, Echo, Silverclaw, White Tiger, Pod, Diamondback (Rachel), Arachne, Sersi, Kate Bishop, Cybermancer, Synapse, America Chavez, Finesse, Hazmat, Monica Chang, Veil (and bring Mockingbird, Jessica Jones, Hellcat, Squirrel Girl and Crystal into the films since they ARE Avengers and turn Pepper into Rescue and Cassie into Stature)
Guardians of the Galaxy: Martyr, Moondragon, Nikki Gold
Thunderbolts: Songbird, Moonstone, Joystick, Jolt, Amazon, Skein, Troll, Satana

And if the Fox deal clears
Fantastic Four: Invisible Woman, Thundra
X-Men: Storm, Rogue, Domino, Emma Frost, Jean Grey, Psylocke, Polaris, Shadowcat, Jubilee, Surge, Mercury, Magik, Pixie, Tempus, M, Wolfsbane, Marrow, Dust, Husk, Layla Miller, Gaia, Wind Dancer, Penance/Hollow, X-23, U-Go Girl, Wallflower, Loa, Rachel Summers, Cipher, Siryn, Mirage, Meltdown, Feral, Negasonic Teenage Warhead, Mystique, Magma, Blindfold, Danger, Dead Girl, Stacy X, Trinary, Blink, Frenzy, Skids, Venus Dee Milo, Bling
Alpha Flight: Aurora, Vindicator, Marina, Snowbird

That's a whole lot of characters we haven't seen yet.

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Added two more characters, White Tiger and Thundra. See? It simply isn't true that Marvel doesn't have access to good superheroines. "But but but the X-Women!!!" is just an excuse.

Lol. I actually like some of these costumes, but it's so true.
Don't forget Monica Rambeau.

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Let's look at what Marvel have to work with in terms of new female heroes.

Avengers: Tigra, She-Hulk, Spider-Woman, Echo, Silverclaw, White Tiger, Pod, Diamondback (Rachel), Arachne, Sersi, Kate Bishop, Cybermancer, Synapse, America Chavez, Finesse, Hazmat, Monica Chang, Veil (and bring Mockingbird, Jessica Jones, Hellcat, Squirrel Girl and Crystal into the films since they ARE Avengers and turn Pepper into Rescue and Cassie into Stature)
Guardians of the Galaxy: Martyr, Moondragon, Nikki Gold
Thunderbolts: Songbird, Moonstone, Joystick, Jolt, Amazon, Skein, Troll, Satana

And if the Fox deal clears
Fantastic Four: Invisible Woman, Thundra
X-Men: Storm, Rogue, Domino, Emma Frost, Jean Grey, Psylocke, Polaris, Shadowcat, Jubilee, Surge, Mercury, Magik, Pixie, Tempus, M, Wolfsbane, Marrow, Dust, Husk, Layla Miller, Gaia, Wind Dancer, Penance/Hollow, X-23, U-Go Girl, Wallflower, Loa, Rachel Summers, Cipher, Siryn, Mirage, Meltdown, Feral, Negasonic Teenage Warhead, Mystique, Magma, Blindfold, Danger, Dead Girl, Stacy X, Trinary, Blink, Frenzy, Skids, Venus Dee Milo, Bling
Alpha Flight: Aurora, Vindicator, Marina, Snowbird

That's a whole lot of characters we haven't seen yet.
X-Men: Sabra. Cecilia Reyes. Daytripper. Nocturne. Moira MacTaggert. Sage. Boom Boom. Danielle Moonstar. Stepford Cuckoos (The good ones). Meggan Braddock/Pucceanu

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