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Old 07-04-2018, 09:06 PM   #26
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I can see Stan being a legacy Cap, I am not saying it is 100% certain, but I can see it as a possibility.

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Okay, now that I've read the whole thread, I'm disgusted enough about the chauvinism some of you prefer to show, that I honestly consider just leaving the Hype. When did diversity stop being a good thing for you lot? when did your hate-filled...no, I stop here, some of you are just not worth it

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Old 07-05-2018, 08:29 AM   #28
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Invisible Woman
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Wasp
Scarlet Witch

I can see phase 4 having more female heroes. Now if only they could introduce and make solo flicks for She Hulk and Spider-Woman, that would just be fabulous.

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Okay, now that I've read the whole thread, I'm disgusted enough about the chauvinism some of you prefer to show, that I honestly consider just leaving the Hype. When did diversity stop being a good thing for you lot? when did your hate-filled...no, I stop here, some of you are just not worth it
I think it's more amazing what little it apparently takes for someone to get 'disgusted' enough to leave a forum.

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Old 07-05-2018, 08:42 AM   #30
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This is a stupid discussion. Why does diversity instantly equal bad to some of you? Like honestly, I don't care what direction the %'s sway in the future. Add as many females and minority characters as you want Marvel, as long as the characters you introduce are cool (as they usually are) and the movies are good, you have my money. Honestly, Marvel has plenty of awesome female characters to use yet.

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Old 07-05-2018, 08:42 AM   #31
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"They want Bucky to become the second Captain America" is the best theory for why they offered his actor a 9-film contract. I won't believe that's a pipe dream without a better theory.
The best theory it may be, but since when have the MCU provided the obvious? They're always teasing the fans with what may be, only to do something else.

Despite desire (maybe?) Bucky isn't going to become the next Captain America - I'd bet my house on it! Once Steve Rogers departs the MCU, Bucky will continue on (as) Bucky. There wont be no passing on the mantle. There'd be no purpose for it, short of "it happened in the comics" but there's a hella' lot of stuff that happened in the comics that we'll never see in the MCU - Bucky as Captain America is one such thing.

I honestly don't see any legacy characters; no Spidergwen, no Ironheart, no She Hulk. The MCU isn't going to last forever, and they're going to want to produce as many original characters as they can.

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The best theory it may be, but since when have the MCU provided the obvious? They're always teasing the fans with what may be, only to do something else.

Despite desire (maybe?) Bucky isn't going to become the next Captain America - I'd bet my house on it! Once Steve Rogers departs the MCU, Bucky will continue on (as) Bucky. There wont be no passing on the mantle. There'd be no purpose for it, short of "it happened in the comics" but there's a hella' lot of stuff that happened in the comics that we'll never see in the MCU - Bucky as Captain America is one such thing.

I honestly don't see any legacy characters; no Spidergwen, no Ironheart, no She Hulk. The MCU isn't going to last forever, and they're going to want to produce as many original characters as they can.

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I agree with you...except on She-Hulk. I think She-Hulk is coming at some point. She is one of the more iconic unused female characters still out there. She's also not a legacy character. Yes, she has the "Hulk" branding, but she has never been offered as a Hulk replacement. She's very much her own character.

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I agree with you...except on She-Hulk. I think She-Hulk is coming at some point. She is one of the more iconic unused female characters still out there. She's also not a legacy character. Yes, she has the "Hulk" branding, but she has never been offered as a Hulk replacement. She's very much her own character.
IIRC, she is stuck in Comcast controlled licensing hell.

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IIRC, she is stuck in Comcast controlled licensing hell.
That just means they cannot do a She-Hulk movie. Like Hulk, they can use her in a supporting role elsewhere.

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That just means they cannot do a She-Hulk movie. Like Hulk, they can use her in a supporting role elsewhere.
I'm not sure. Since she is considered a supporting character (under contract) the situation could be dicier. Maybe like how none of his villains have been used since TIH.

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I'm not sure. Since she is considered a supporting character (under contract) the situation could be dicier. Maybe like how none of his villains have been used since TIH.
Ross has appeared and Talbot has been in AoS. Also, I am not sure where his rights fall, but Absorbing Man has been on AoS, and given the Ang Lee movie basically made his dad Absorbing Man, that would be another character the MCU used after TIH.

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This is a stupid discussion. Why does diversity instantly equal bad to some of you? Like honestly, I don't care what direction the %'s sway in the future. Add as many females and minority characters as you want Marvel, as long as the characters you introduce are cool (as they usually are) and the movies are good, you have my money. Honestly, Marvel has plenty of awesome female characters to use yet.
Yep. We will have had 20 Marvel movies led by men before Captain Marvel (I'm including Ant-Man and the Wasp, because reviews say it's still Scott and even Hank's story more than Hope's).

Yet, hearing Marvel might finally be moving the spotlight to some of its awesome women characters is treated with suspicion and derision? (shrugs)

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Yep. We will have had 20 Marvel movies led by men before Captain Marvel (I'm including Ant-Man and the Wasp, because reviews say it's still Scott and even Hank's story more than Hope's).

Yet, hearing Marvel might finally be moving the spotlight to some of its awesome women characters is treated with suspicion and derision? (shrugs)
Odd because I saw several people who said it is about 50/50. Guess I will see tonight!

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The controversy I guess is a social one. The "more than half" being the contentious point. It goes to the belief that if females had the same physical strength as men then women would be most of the combatants. The other side thinking that there are real gender differences which lead to our motivations and will to fight. But then that belief also ask why those women who do become combatants do so.

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The best theory it may be, but since when have the MCU provided the obvious? They're always teasing the fans with what may be, only to do something else.

Despite desire (maybe?) Bucky isn't going to become the next Captain America - I'd bet my house on it! Once Steve Rogers departs the MCU, Bucky will continue on (as) Bucky. There wont be no passing on the mantle. There'd be no purpose for it, short of "it happened in the comics" but there's a hella' lot of stuff that happened in the comics that we'll never see in the MCU - Bucky as Captain America is one such thing.

I honestly don't see any legacy characters; no Spidergwen, no Ironheart, no She Hulk. The MCU isn't going to last forever, and they're going to want to produce as many original characters as they can.

My bad; least I got half the name right!
I happen to agree about Sergeant Barnes. It was a great task to give a reason for Steve Rogers to wear the American flag as his suit and to just graft that flag onto Barnes, or Wilson for that matter, won't sell the movie or character to a global audience. They have already pushed the White Wolf on screen twice.

That being said about the MCU and forever. I say Wakanda forever. Feige, RDJ or the Chris's won't last forever but then the decision becomes do we reboot because Iron Man was like James Bond or roll forward because it wasn't Iron Man that sold the MCU it was RDJ?

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Nobody has a problem with diversity. Nobody is against including female heroes. Saying more than half of the heroes should be female sounds like he's more interested in appealing to the feminists than the core audience.

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Ross has appeared and Talbot has been in AoS. Also, I am not sure where his rights fall, but Absorbing Man has been on AoS, and given the Ang Lee movie basically made his dad Absorbing Man, that would be another character the MCU used after TIH.
That's kind of what makes the whole thing sticky. Most of have appeared on TV more than film (except for Ross), and those sets of rights are separate. What is interesting is that Ross hasn't really been in the same movie as Hulk since TIH. I wonder if having multiple characters from his line appear in a movie may present an argument to Universal that their distribution rights aren't being respected, so Marvel opts to avoid that by streamlining the number of (Hulk) characters that appear in any single movie. It's a bit of a legal pickle.

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Nobody has a problem with diversity. Nobody is against including female heroes. Saying more than half of the heroes should be female sounds like he's more interested in appealing to the feminists than the core audience.
Again, why? As a comic fan don't we love characters like She-Hulk, Storm, Invisible Woman, etc. as much as we do guys like Adam Warlock? Why is starting to use that section of your universe, when in the past is has been ignored, is an issue? Just on the law of averages, women and men are close to 50/50. The MCU doesn't represent that ratio at this point, so what's the problem with evening that out? The MCU has been attempting to grow its fan base over time since the beginning. I see no problem with making some movies geared for women and starring women. I mean, don't women watch these movies too?

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That's kind of what makes the whole thing sticky. Most of have appeared on TV more than film (except for Ross), and those sets of rights are separate. What is interesting is that Ross hasn't really been in the same movie as Hulk since TIH. I wonder if having multiple characters from his line appear in a movie may present an argument to Universal that their distribution rights aren't being respected, so Marvel opts to avoid that by streamlining the number of (Hulk) characters that appear in any single movie. It's a bit of a legal pickle.
Ross and Banner were both in IW

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Nobody has a problem with diversity. Nobody is against including female heroes. Saying more than half of the heroes should be female sounds like he's more interested in appealing to the feminists than the core audience.
I think it is just bad wording on his part. There are plenty of female heroes that core fans would love to see that haven't been used yet and that is what he is trying to promote. IMO.

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I agree with you...except on She-Hulk. I think She-Hulk is coming at some point. She is one of the more iconic unused female characters still out there. She's also not a legacy character. Yes, she has the "Hulk" branding, but she has never been offered as a Hulk replacement. She's very much her own character.
I don't know enough about the She-Hulk character to say otherwise, so will take your word on that. Maybe it's time to do a little light reading on her.

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Ross and Banner were both in IW
Speaking role only though. He wasn't actually seen.

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I don't know enough about the She-Hulk character to say otherwise, so will take your word on that. Maybe it's time to do a little light reading on her.
I highly recommend it. She-Hulk is a great character and had a great solo book where she was a lawyer for a while. Read that run

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Riri Williams should get her MCU movie shot.

We already lost Misty Knight and Colleen Wing to Netflix.

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Speaking role only though. He wasn't actually seen.
Who, Ross? Yes he was. He wasn't just a voice, he was a holographic projection like the World Council in TWS was. He was physically seen.

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Who, Ross? Yes he was. He wasn't just a voice, he was a holographic projection like the World Council in TWS was. He was physically seen.
It was such a quick scene that I probably got it wrong. Still, either way his inclusion was minimal at best. I think the actual issue gets raised if you have multiple characters in a more prominent role.

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