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Old 07-09-2004, 12:46 PM   #1
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I have an idea fro real webshooters, not the fluid, but an actual shooter. It involves electronics, metal fabrication, and a few things I am not good at. If anyone is handy, and would like to try to make these, please let me know and maybe we will have some luck.

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Old 07-09-2004, 01:43 PM   #2
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OK, i'm game as long as i don't go blind from an explosion.

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any design scematics for us to look at..orpics of drawings of ideas on how it works..I know a couple of things about electronics...not alot but a little.

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no, not yet. Basically, you use CO2 cartridges to pressurize the fluid cartridges and you use a solenoid valve to release the liquid, via a button on your palm. The only question is, and I haven't done any tests, is how far will it shoot? How much pressure could be built up with those CO2 cartridges? Will it last for a bit or run out every 5 seconds. The smaller the hole it comes out of, the farther it will shoot and the longer it will last. The design is based on the pics of the movie prop webshooter, not the comic version replicas.

you can see them at:

http://63.160.59.180/props/webshooter02.htm

the fluid cartridges are not as big as i would like, they would need to be bigger to hold more fluid. then they would all need to be linked with tubing to create one large vessel composed off all the small ones.

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Old 07-09-2004, 04:50 PM   #5
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more like this one:

http://starwars.countingdown.com/mov...item_id=733203

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Old 07-09-2004, 05:25 PM   #6
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Talk to Frank McKeaver (sorry if I spelled your name wrong Frank). Awhile back he made his own that actually shot fishing line... Not sure how far he got with it.

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is he on the boards? where would i find him?

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Old 07-09-2004, 06:36 PM   #8
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I always figured the substance would be not so liquidy in form ..almost solid...like a paste.If you see the pictures these look like they split it into strands then they are forced together whrn they come out the spinneret...and yes I like your ideas they sound as thugh it would work...the distance stuff..im not too sure it would be filled with liquid though and as for the space ....im not sure.



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Old 07-09-2004, 06:48 PM   #9
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dude, if it was liquid, it would not flow, i am almost talking about making webshooter squirtguns. im not looking to make real webs, just a cool device that shoots something, probably water in a long thin strand, that shoots far, a simulation of a real web.

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Old 07-09-2004, 06:49 PM   #10
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the problem you find is what type of material can be used that...in theory hardens to hold weight without snapping or breaking without great physical stress...oh and folks who are reading this...no i'm not carazy....or overly obsessed..non of us are...no im not implying that you are...but you gotta admit its pretty interesting stuff.

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Old 07-09-2004, 06:49 PM   #11
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i wouldn;t even mind if it was silly string, the problem is that the cans they use to hold the stuff is way too big to be put on the wrist, they need to make little pressurized cans, but that would get expensive, the co2 cartridges are not that expensive.

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forget my last post ......but any way I undersatand...hre I got somethin...are these franks..I remember a site and I remembered I had these...is this what you were talkin about iggy




I picked up these pics at a website that were selling these because i thught it was a geat referance pic...I still dont know if the site is still up thugh.

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Here is a concept of what I mean:

<img src="http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v341/spolen23/webshooter_schematic_copy.jpg">

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cant see it link wont work says "ERROR"

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sorry, here is the concept drawing


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what website was selling those other ones??

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Old 07-09-2004, 08:35 PM   #17
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uuuhhh...it was a while ago...I know i got the adress from these boards but I cant remember form who

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Factory X was supposed to make new replicas, but they did not want to buy the license from Marvel

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Old 07-09-2004, 09:18 PM   #19
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I tried to find the adress but I cant..but i did find this
www.foresthills.tk
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Old 07-09-2004, 10:06 PM   #20
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no, not yet. Basically, you use CO2 cartridges to pressurize the fluid cartridges and you use a solenoid valve to release the liquid, via a button on your palm. The only question is, and I haven't done any tests, is how far will it shoot? How much pressure could be built up with those CO2 cartridges? Will it last for a bit or run out every 5 seconds. The smaller the hole it comes out of, the farther it will shoot and the longer it will last. The design is based on the pics of the movie prop webshooter, not the comic version replicas.

you can see them at:

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the fluid cartridges are not as big as i would like, they would need to be bigger to hold more fluid. then they would all need to be linked with tubing to create one large vessel composed off all the small ones.
hey Spolen23, I was suprised to read your ideas for your 'web-squirter', mostley because they are exactly the same ideas I had...lol...we must think along the same web-strands...hehe...but I really do think this is possible and actually have some ideas for the fluid (made up of two differnt chemicals when mixed create a fast forming nylon substance) it would not be strong but it would be a string that shoots out the nozzel...and would just require a few changes to your design...but like you I do not have the means to construct it properly...oh well

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Hey guys!

It's Frank here...I had to get a new screenname. Sorry, I've been gone for awhile with some serious stress lately (loss my grandmother and was in the emergency room the following week).

Anyways, spolen23 ~

I love your ideas! In the past I created a shooter that worked similar to a fishing rod (sling your arm out to spin the reel and shoot the 'webbing'). I found a 140 lb test fishing line to use, which actually supported my weight.

Since then, I've designed one that you use manually, and one used with CO2 cartridges (similar to what you're talking about). As Mr. Spider pointed out, you can check our movie site for pictures of that shooter: www.foresthills.tk

I'm working on a shooter at this very moment that is also CO2 powered. I actually got the adapter that holds the CO2 cartridge from a "Nitrous Connection" setup, used in racing cars (bought one for my car and one for my project!).

If you have any questions, talk to me on AIM, I added you to my buddylist: silverboy3005

Take it easy, and goodluck!

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Old 07-09-2004, 11:28 PM   #22
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how is that movie comin along anyway frank?
I'm sorry about your troubles...my bro was in a car accident and almost got crushed....his arm was almost burned off.
plus I love your idea for shooters..please go on...would be nice to see if the idea would work.

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Hey frank, I added you to my buddy list also. I like the idea of the two chemical thing, however, it would be hard keeping them apart as not to clog the nozzle. Anyone, ever use a solenoid valve, i know they make them small, and it would be the perfect solution, for the palm trigger as opposed to a mechanical lever device. a cool thing is to have it attached to a chip so that it activates after you press it twice, but that level of programming is way beyond me, even though i think it is pretty simple to do. Everything is easy when you know how to do it! Frank, email me your teaser for the film, it looks awsome. I used to do visual effects for commericals and feature films, so if there is anything i can do to help, let me know. Am I crazy, but if someone did make a shooter that was true to the character and worked, they would stand to make a lot of money, kind of like the force fx lightsabers?

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if any of you work in a school there was an experement where 2 liquids turn solid after about 3 secs so that would do for fluid, but i can't remember the stuff.

anyhoo, if you buy a cheap CO2 BB gun and take it apart then youcould use some of the stuff in that.

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what kind of effects?

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