Marvel's losing its edge and DC's getting its back - Page 3

DarthPlagueis · 03-14-2005, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batman

and recall the last three marvel movies were Blade Trinity, Elektra, and Man-Thing, which was supposedly so bad it got put on the sci-fi channel instead of in theaters. whats your point?

You're absolutely right on those 3 films. Especially BINO(trinity).

Chris Wallace · 03-14-2005, 10:47 PM

Y'know what's funny? So many of y'all want to tar & feather David Goyer b/c you didn't like "Trinity"; have you read the credits of the upcoming Batman movie that you're all pinning your hopes on?

Obsidian · 03-14-2005, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CConn

No, it's not that. It's that they have such a killer line up of movies coming. Like I said, Batman, Superman, The Flash, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, V for Vendetta and Watchmen is an all-star line up no matter how you look at it. The question is...will they be good? And that's exactly where I agree with your statement below:

Don't forget the talent that will be involved in the following films (not including Batman Begins) Bryan Singer, Paul Greengrass, Natalie Portman, Kevin Spacey, Hugh Laurie, and so many more!

Obsidian · 03-14-2005, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Wallace

Y'know what's funny? So many of y'all want to tar & feather David Goyer b/c you didn't like "Trinity"; have you read the credits of the upcoming Batman movie that you're all pinning your hopes on?

Christopher Nolan rewrote much of the script.

Besides, Goyer isn't bad, he just directed a camp film...a camp film that was never supposed to be camp in the first place.

Saint · 03-14-2005, 10:58 PM

I don't know why everyone is trashing Trinity; I enjoyed it. It wasn't as good as the previous Blade films, but it was watchable. The writing--save for some missteps--was mostly solid. It was certainly better than Elektra.

CConn · 03-15-2005, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Wallace

Y'know what's funny? So many of y'all want to tar & feather David Goyer b/c you didn't like "Trinity"; have you read the credits of the upcoming Batman movie that you're all pinning your hopes on?

Actually, most of the people who I see bashing Goyer for Blade, bash him for BB as well.

Ant-Man · 03-15-2005, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ant-Man

DC makes one movie (BB) that is supposedly good (how can anyone know absolutely for sure yet?) and is all a sudden the king of comic book movies. If I don't recall their last 3 comic book movies were Catwoman (terrible and that's being nice), Constantine (average, nothing to get over excited about) and Batman and Robin (need I say any more).

Marvel has definitly had missteps but I wouldn't say that D.C has taken the edge from them. That has yet to be determined.

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and recall the last three marvel movies were Blade Trinity, Elektra, and Man-Thing, which was supposedly so bad it got put on the sci-fi channel instead of in theaters. whats your point?

My point is this is an asinine thread and the fact that DC is starting to develop some promising properties does not qualify one to say that DC has an edge over Marvel or vice versa.

Chris Wallace · 03-17-2005, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ant-Man

My point is this is an asinine thread and the fact that DC is starting to develop some promising properties does not qualify one to say that DC has an edge over Marvel or vice versa.

There's truth in what you say. Not everybody hated "Blade: Trinity" or "Elektra" & not everybody's gonna love "Batman Begins" or the new Superman flick. not everybody hated "Batman Forever & not everybody loved "Spider-Man". So it's really a matter of opinion.

CConn · 03-18-2005, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Wallace

There's truth in what you say. Not everybody hated "Blade: Trinity" or "Elektra" & not everybody's gonna love "Batman Begins" or the new Superman flick. not everybody hated "Batman Forever & not everybody loved "Spider-Man". So it's really a matter of opinion.

So Howard the Duck is as good as SM2?

Darko · 03-18-2005, 03:34 AM

Go DC.

Doc_OCK_4MUGEN · 03-18-2005, 07:23 AM

Well I surely hope that DC gets some good flicks out, cause I sitll have the sour after taste left by CINO and B&R. I have high hopes for BB but I don't give a damn about Superman... much less for WW, maybe I'll watch Flash, cause I still remember the old made for TV movie with Dawson's Dad as Flash... and I really hope to see a kickass flash with a buttload of cgi.

Both Marvel and DC have spewed a lot of crap specially made for TV... JLA, Nick Fury Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D (David Hasselhoff as Nick Fury?! Man this is worse than Howard the feathered Ewok... err Duck!)

Red Mask · 03-19-2005, 08:15 AM

Other superhero films are heading for the screen as well. If I get tired of the hype between either group, I can just enjoy watching "Hellboy 2", or Disney's upcoming "Sky High" - assuming that's good. Why be a slave to either company?

Chris Wallace · 03-19-2005, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CConn

So Howard the Duck is as good as SM2?

Let's not get carried away here.

Chris Wallace · 03-19-2005, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Mask

Other superhero films are heading for the screen as well. If I get tired of the hype between either group, I can just enjoy watching "Hellboy 2", or Disney's upcoming "Sky High" - assuming that's good. Why be a slave to either company?

I'm no slave. Like I always say, I'm primarily a Marvel fan. But i'm not gonna deny myself great entertainmant or willfully subject myself to crap out of some misguided sense of loyalty. I have high hopes for both

and

; I'm a little skeptical of

, though.

Weadazoid · 03-19-2005, 08:01 PM

The fact is right now Marvel OWNS, and still owns in the movies department.

They have more characters DC can shake a stick at.

This Summer it's

BB vs FF........... by the end of the summer we will see who's numbers are higher.

Ant-Man · 03-19-2005, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Weadazoid

BB vs FF........... by the end of the summer we will see who's numbers are higher.

Or instead you could go to both and enjoy them each for their own merits. It baffles me why people continue to make BB vs FF comments. They are two completely different movies in terms of tone and style. The only similarities they have is they are both based on comic books.

Red Mask · 03-19-2005, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Wallace

I'm no slave. Like I always say, I'm primarily a Marvel fan. But i'm not gonna deny myself great entertainmant or willfully subject myself to crap out of some misguided sense of loyalty. I have high hopes for both

and

; I'm a little skeptical of

, though.

I get skeptical whenever a new title comes out, or when an unknown director takes the helm. I still believe Constantine should have been a British concept, but I did enjoy watching it. (Only after I saw what happened at Chad's grave site.)

CConn · 03-21-2005, 05:02 PM

Actually, now with the latest DC movie news, I'll say this; if SR, Flash, and WW turn out as well as they should, Marvel will be in serious trouble.

CConn · 03-21-2005, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Weadazoid

The fact is right now Marvel OWNS

They didn't own last year in the comics department. DC sold more.

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Originally Posted by Weadazoid

They have more characters DC can shake a stick at.

More characters doesn't equal box office success. It's a combination of many things. Quality of the character, among them (in which DC has the advantage, IMO).

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Originally Posted by Chris Wallace

I'm no slave. Like I always say, I'm primarily a Marvel fan. But i'm not gonna deny myself great entertainmant or willfully subject myself to crap out of some misguided sense of loyalty.

I agree. I'll admit, I prefer DC, and would love for them to do better, but I'm not going to not go see, or wish ill on Marvel movies because of it.

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Originally Posted by Chris Wallace

I'm a little skeptical of

, though.

As am I, sadly. But I've got a lot of faith in

and

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Originally Posted by Ant-Man

Or instead you could go to both and enjoy them each for their own merits. It baffles me why people continue to make BB vs FF comments. They are two completely different movies in terms of tone and style. The only similarities they have is they are both based on comic books.

Frankly, I want the best movie to make the most money. As that's the one that's most deserving, IMO.

Kmack · 03-21-2005, 06:09 PM

LET THERE BE PEACE!!!

Chris Wallace · 03-21-2005, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ant-Man

Or instead you could go to both and enjoy them each for their own merits. It baffles me why people continue to make BB vs FF comments. They are two completely different movies in terms of tone and style. The only similarities they have is they are both based on comic books.

Madness, I tell you!

Chris Wallace · 03-21-2005, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Kmackintrush

LET THERE BE PEACE!!!

Actually this has gotten out of hand. This "competition" exists only in the minds of fanboys. We need to stop egging each other's houses & all play nice.

roach · 03-21-2005, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Weadazoid

The fact is right now Marvel OWNS, and still owns in the movies department.

They have more characters DC can shake a stick at.

This Summer it's

BB vs FF........... by the end of the summer we will see who's numbers are higher.

Hmmmm i dont think either one will rule the boxoffice this summer. There will be heavy competion from Episode 3 and regardless if you liked the other two prequels this last one will do extremly well. I also think the adaptation of Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy will also upset the balance....and dont count out Steven Spielburg's War of the Worlds and Tim Burton's Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

hippie_hunter · 03-21-2005, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CConn

Actually, now with the latest DC movie news, I'll say this; if SR, Flash, and WW turn out as well as they should, Marvel will be in serious trouble.

Exactly because if that happens DC can release JLA and team them all up, something Marvel can't do with the Avengers. Just imagine if they did make JLA though

Chris Wallace · 03-21-2005, 10:43 PM

And what difference would that make? Y'all make it sound like a JLA movie would put Marvel out of business. IT WOULDN'T.

03-14-2005, 10:47 PM	#52
Chris Wallace LET'S DO A HEADCOUNT... Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 35,580	Re: Marvel's losing its edge and DC's getting its back Y'know what's funny? So many of y'all want to tar & feather David Goyer b/c you didn't like "Trinity"; have you read the credits of the upcoming Batman movie that you're all pinning your hopes on? __________________ Michael Joseph Jackson 1958-2009. Gone Too Soon. May he finally find the peace that eluded him in life. TOP COMIC BOOK MOVIES 1. AVENGERS 2. CAPTAIN AMERICA 3. THOR 4. SPIDER-MAN 2 5. INCREDIBLE HULK 6. IRON MAN 7. SPIDER-MAN 8. X2 9. V FOR VENDETTA 10. X-MEN FIRST CLASS

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Doc_OCK_4MUGEN I love 6" not 3 3/4" toys Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Puerto Rico, but I don't worship Ben Grimm Posts: 1,841	Re: Marvel's losing its edge and DC's getting its back Well I surely hope that DC gets some good flicks out, cause I sitll have the sour after taste left by CINO and B&R. I have high hopes for BB but I don't give a damn about Superman... much less for WW, maybe I'll watch Flash, cause I still remember the old made for TV movie with Dawson's Dad as Flash... and I really hope to see a kickass flash with a buttload of cgi. Both Marvel and DC have spewed a lot of crap specially made for TV... JLA, Nick Fury Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D (David Hasselhoff as Nick Fury?! Man this is worse than Howard the feathered Ewok... err Duck!) __________________ "Nobody's perfect, but we do ok..."-GI Joe members... Whoa they're mediocre conformists... Now I know... and knowing is half the battle... ♪GIIIIIII JOEEEEEEEEE!!!!!♫

03-19-2005, 08:15 AM	#62
Red Mask Human Killing Machine Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 9,684	Re: Marvel's losing its edge and DC's getting its back Other superhero films are heading for the screen as well. If I get tired of the hype between either group, I can just enjoy watching "Hellboy 2", or Disney's upcoming "Sky High" - assuming that's good. Why be a slave to either company? __________________ The swordsmanship's first achievement is the unity of man and sword. Once this unity is attained even a blade of grass can be a weapon. The second achievement is when the sword exists in one's heart. When absent from one's hand one can strike an enemy at paces even with bare hands. Swordsmanship's ultimate achievement is the absence of the sword in both hand and heart. The swordsman is at peace with the rest of the world. He vows not to kill.

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Weadazoid Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Illadel Posts: 4,030	Re: Marvel's losing its edge and DC's getting its back The fact is right now Marvel OWNS, and still owns in the movies department. They have more characters DC can shake a stick at. This Summer it's BB vs FF........... by the end of the summer we will see who's numbers are higher.

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Chris Wallace LET'S DO A HEADCOUNT... Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 35,580	Re: Marvel's losing its edge and DC's getting its back And what difference would that make? Y'all make it sound like a JLA movie would put Marvel out of business. IT WOULDN'T. __________________ Michael Joseph Jackson 1958-2009. Gone Too Soon. May he finally find the peace that eluded him in life. TOP COMIC BOOK MOVIES 1. AVENGERS 2. CAPTAIN AMERICA 3. THOR 4. SPIDER-MAN 2 5. INCREDIBLE HULK 6. IRON MAN 7. SPIDER-MAN 8. X2 9. V FOR VENDETTA 10. X-MEN FIRST CLASS

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