Subtitles, voice over, or ignorance

bingy13 · 04-01-2005, 04:53 PM

In a movie I am writing, some of the characters are African and part of it is set in Africa... Should I use subtitles (what I really want to do, not the easiest for the crowd, or me though), voice over (to me these look cheesy, what are your guys' thoughts), or just ignorance and say they speak English...

Silver Sable · 04-01-2005, 04:55 PM

If I were you, I would use subtitiles b/c that will make the film more realistic

bingy13 · 04-01-2005, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Sable

If I were you, I would use subtitiles b/c that will make the film more realistic

That's wut I'm thinking...

Hobbes · 04-01-2005, 05:08 PM

You can establish that they're speaking their native language, yet have the actors speaking english.

bingy13 · 04-01-2005, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hobbes

You can establish that they're speaking their native language, yet have the actors speaking english.

how would you go about this? I was thinknig of having one person who could speak english and everybody else couldn't...

Hobbes · 04-01-2005, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bingy13

how would you go about this? I was thinknig of having one person who could speak english and everybody else couldn't...

Do you watch Lost? Thy did it really quite well in one episode.

bingy13 · 04-01-2005, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Hobbes

Do you watch Lost? Thy did it really quite well in one episode.

nope never watched it... could you explain...

Hobbes · 04-01-2005, 05:25 PM

Well, the characters were speaking Iraqi, subtitles going, and the camera panne dbehind a fellers head, screen all black for a moment, When the camera came back out, they were speaking English. It may not make sense the way I say it, but It worked quite well on the show.

bingy13 · 04-01-2005, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hobbes

Well, the characters were speaking Iraqi, subtitles going, and the camera panne dbehind a fellers head, screen all black for a moment, When the camera came back out, they were speaking English. It may not make sense the way I say it, but It worked quite well on the show.

I don't think I want to do that...

Blackmail · 04-01-2005, 08:20 PM

What would the world be without voice overs?

Psycho Hulk · 04-01-2005, 08:29 PM

Alot of movies have the people speaking in their native tongue with out voice overs or Subtitles. You usually just go by what they are looking at or relating too. Like a silent movie, the characters never spoke but you always knew what was going on or what they were thinking about. So you could have them speaking in their native tongue but their motions and expressions cleary stating the subject. Unless, its something really important...then I dunno, sometimes they will start speaking in there native tongue and then somebody will speak in english...and suddenly everyone knows english. I still prefer subtitles for realism.

bingy13 · 04-01-2005, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Psycho Hulk

Alot of movies have the people speaking in their native tongue with out voice overs or Subtitles. You usually just go by what they are looking at or relating too. Like a silent movie, the characters never spoke but you always knew what was going on or what they were thinking about. So you could have them speaking in their native tongue but their motions and expressions cleary stating the subject. Unless, its something really important...then I dunno, sometimes they will start speaking in there native tongue and then somebody will speak in english...and suddenly everyone knows english. I still prefer subtitles for realism.

I think I'll go with subtitles in the beginning and then either have everybody learn English, or the main character learn their language... I'm leaning towards them learning English... It would make it easier for them to deliver powerful lines, and everybody get it in the crowd...

DarkKnightJRK · 04-01-2005, 09:12 PM

I think it would probably depend on what kind-of movie it is or the plot of the story.

GL-Corps#28 · 04-01-2005, 10:28 PM

You should only do voiceovers if you get the most monotone, flat-voiced white guys you an find.

bingy13 · 04-02-2005, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by GL-Corps#28

You should only do voiceovers if you get the most monotone, flat-voiced white guys you an find.

LOL, you need a job, jk...

Knightsaber Priss · 04-02-2005, 09:42 AM

Subtitles. It's more classy.

06-03-2006, 08:36 PM

Being a Professional Voice Over Talent, I vote for voice over.

Isildur´s Heir · 06-03-2006, 10:40 PM

Voice over is the most retarted thing ever.
I only accept in animated movies because of the kids, but i refuse to watch them, i only see original versions.
Thank God i live in a country (Portugal) that doesn´t dub any movie, except the animated ones, and even those, have always theaters with the original version.

Why?
Because an actor is 50% voice and 50% body movement, if you take the voice, you get half an actor, and, by other words, you get a product, not a person.

I am and will always be, 100% against dubbing

hippie_hunter · 06-04-2006, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bingy13

how would you go about this? I was thinknig of having one person who could speak english and everybody else couldn't...

Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater was spoken in English even though most of it was said in Russian.

Stringer · 06-04-2006, 02:04 AM

I agree with Sable go with the subtitles.

Victor Creed · 06-04-2006, 03:15 AM

Subtitles are the best especially if anyone watching is hard of hearing, it kills two birds with one stone. My wife is nearly deaf in one ear, so i have become so accustomed to subtitles on movies that I began to watch foreign films with no qualms.

Of course, I still can't resist them dubbed over Jackie Chan flicks, lol.

freelancer · 06-04-2006, 05:38 PM

Subtitles.

04-01-2005, 04:53 PM	#1
bingy13 Side-Kick Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 1,762	Subtitles, voice over, or ignorance In a movie I am writing, some of the characters are African and part of it is set in Africa... Should I use subtitles (what I really want to do, not the easiest for the crowd, or me though), voice over (to me these look cheesy, what are your guys' thoughts), or just ignorance and say they speak English... __________________ "Mistletoe can be deadly if you eat it" "A kiss can be even deadlier if you mean it" -Batman Returns

04-01-2005, 05:08 PM	#4
Hobbes Banned User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Still Brodie, By the way. Posts: 419	Re: Subtitles, voice over, or ignorance You can establish that they're speaking their native language, yet have the actors speaking english.

04-01-2005, 05:25 PM	#8
Hobbes Banned User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Still Brodie, By the way. Posts: 419	Re: Subtitles, voice over, or ignorance Well, the characters were speaking Iraqi, subtitles going, and the camera panne dbehind a fellers head, screen all black for a moment, When the camera came back out, they were speaking English. It may not make sense the way I say it, but It worked quite well on the show.

04-01-2005, 08:20 PM	#10
Blackmail Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 35	Re: Subtitles, voice over, or ignorance What would the world be without voice overs?

04-01-2005, 08:29 PM	#11
Psycho Hulk Side-Kick Join Date: May 2003 Location: Protecting Daisy..."They Call me Mr. Fixit" Posts: 6,536	Re: Subtitles, voice over, or ignorance Alot of movies have the people speaking in their native tongue with out voice overs or Subtitles. You usually just go by what they are looking at or relating too. Like a silent movie, the characters never spoke but you always knew what was going on or what they were thinking about. So you could have them speaking in their native tongue but their motions and expressions cleary stating the subject. Unless, its something really important...then I dunno, sometimes they will start speaking in there native tongue and then somebody will speak in english...and suddenly everyone knows english. I still prefer subtitles for realism. __________________ "Doctor Banner,Belted by gamma rays,Turned into the Hulk.Ain't he unglamo-rays! Wreckin' the town, With the power of a bull, Ain't no monster clown. Who is that lovable? It's ever lovin' Hulk! HULK!! HULK!! ]

04-01-2005, 04:55 PM	#2
Silver Sable Wild Pack Commander Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Queens,NY Posts: 27,576	Re: Subtitles, voice over, or ignorance If I were you, I would use subtitiles b/c that will make the film more realistic __________________ Avatar by Me Buddies: Demogoblin,CaptainStacy,Godzilla

04-01-2005, 09:12 PM	#13
DarkKnightJRK Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 12,254	Re: Subtitles, voice over, or ignorance I think it would probably depend on what kind-of movie it is or the plot of the story. __________________ DarkKnightJRK, an opinionated bastard since 1988. The Dark Knight in the "World of Heroes" DC RPG. The Wolverine in the "Heroes vs. Villians" Marvel RPG.

04-01-2005, 10:28 PM	#14
GL-Corps#28 Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The land of Cheetos and Gummi Worms. Posts: 4,841	Re: Subtitles, voice over, or ignorance You should only do voiceovers if you get the most monotone, flat-voiced white guys you an find. __________________ It's fun here, but it's easy to get lost. Don't forget to have a life, guys.

04-02-2005, 09:42 AM	#16
Knightsaber Priss Lone Wolf Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Howling at the moon. Posts: 28,128	Re: Subtitles, voice over, or ignorance Subtitles. It's more classy. __________________ "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." Bilbo Baggins - The Fellowship of the Rings "I know what you would say, and it would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart." Frodo Baggins - Fellowship of the Rings I have changed. Things that I once wanted are now but a distant memory forever cloaked in the shadows of the twilight of the past.

06-03-2006, 08:36 PM	#17
TGG Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Subtitles, voice over, or ignorance Being a Professional Voice Over Talent, I vote for voice over.

06-03-2006, 10:40 PM	#18
Isildur´s Heir What are you looking at? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Everywhere and nowhere Posts: 18,599	Re: Subtitles, voice over, or ignorance Voice over is the most retarted thing ever. I only accept in animated movies because of the kids, but i refuse to watch them, i only see original versions. Thank God i live in a country (Portugal) that doesn´t dub any movie, except the animated ones, and even those, have always theaters with the original version. Why? Because an actor is 50% voice and 50% body movement, if you take the voice, you get half an actor, and, by other words, you get a product, not a person. I am and will always be, 100% against dubbing __________________ Mario can never keep track of his woman. She´s always getting kidnapped and he is always showing up in the wrong castle, someone needs to throw a GPS tracking bracelet on that b*ch. Last edited by Isildur´s Heir; 06-03-2006 at 10:48 PM.*

06-04-2006, 02:04 AM	#20
Stringer CHAMPS AGAIN! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: West Side-Copy Shop Posts: 5,642	Re: Subtitles, voice over, or ignorance I agree with Sable go with the subtitles. __________________ "When you come at the King you best not miss"- Omar Little "We dem lil bald headed bes on the chessboard"- Bodie Broadus

06-04-2006, 03:15 AM	#21
Victor Creed Side-Kick Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 1,667	Re: Subtitles, voice over, or ignorance Subtitles are the best especially if anyone watching is hard of hearing, it kills two birds with one stone. My wife is nearly deaf in one ear, so i have become so accustomed to subtitles on movies that I began to watch foreign films with no qualms. Of course, I still can't resist them dubbed over Jackie Chan flicks, lol.

06-04-2006, 05:38 PM	#22
freelancer Side-Kick Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 3,918	Re: Subtitles, voice over, or ignorance Subtitles. __________________ «How long can any man fight the darkness before he finds it in himself?» - Spider-Man 3 is gonna ROCK!

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