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Old 10-29-2012, 09:13 PM   #1
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Default Should they do a separate 'New Avengers' movie...

...I had an idea for a New Avengers type movie, that could both accomplish the need of having new Avengers without necessarily all having to confine it to one film franchise.

My basic idea was to have the villain be the Purple Man. Basically I'd have him be a TV Producer doing a reality TV show in Harlem. The reality TV show features two "super heroes" named Wonder Man (played by Simon Williams) and Speed Demon. Luke Cage and Iron Fist come into conflict with them after they discover Zed Killgrave secretly uses his powers to "convince" locals in Harlem to committ crimes so the superheroes will have things to do on TV. Luke Cage and Iron Fist go to Matt Murdock to see if he'll help them legally remove the two heroes on TV from Harlem. Matt says it's legally impossible so they go to SHIELD. SHIELD turns them away cold, saying the threat isn't "big enough". One of their agents present, Jessica Drew, takes pity on them and joins them revealing she masquarades as Spider-Woman.

Basically the heart of my idea though is that you'd have a franchise of Avengers who took care of "street level" crime.

I'd also like to see a film like this treat superheroes matter of factly. As if we don't need the originitis anymore. They just exist in the MU. I'd construct a story that glazed over their origins, much like Avengers, but do it without the set up films. I think as long as you explain the powers, this can be done.

But overall I support the idea of a NA film.

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Old 10-29-2012, 09:19 PM   #2
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Something like that might work as a tv series, but they'd never call it 'New Avengers'. Too confusing for the general audience.

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Old 10-30-2012, 02:04 PM   #3
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Default Re: Should they do a separate 'New Avengers' movie...

Eh. No thanks. The problem with the comics is that every hero, almost ever, is a damned avenger. Introduce a few heroes that are actually Avenger-centric(Ms. Marvel, Vision, hell even Scarlet Witch, LC would probably work too) heroes in the Avengers proper or sub-out existing avengers with new ones maybe for future movies.

But let the other heroes carve out their own little piece in the MCU, Especially Daredevil and guys like Strange. Acknowledging that the Avengers exist with em, but handling their own adventures.

Just one's opinion though.

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Old 10-30-2012, 02:41 PM   #4
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I like the idea overall. I think it's a slick way to introduce a lot of these characters who are honestly not going to get their own film. It's true, it works as a subplot of a SHIELD TV show, or a DD TV Show for that matter.

And while I don't agree that having a lot of people pass through the ranks of the Avengers is a problem (is it some exclusive club, only available to superheroes who are 'old guard???') , I do agree that calling it "New Avengers" creates an "off-brand Avengers" feel, or worse, makes it seem like Marvel is trying to ape itself or replace the "old" Avengers. That's not wise.

Especially for the story you're telling that centers around Luke and Danny's partnership, that might be a great time to call it "Heroes for Hire."


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If I were to do an off brand Avengers story, I would do West Coast Avengers, and bring in Hawkeye, War Machine and MCU Ant-Man as their big three, a task force sent to deal with some super-powered cult called 'the Legion of the Unliving' and face off against Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Vision, Wonder Man and their 'leader' Grim Reaper, who all turn out to be manipulated/created by the Enchantress posing as an aide/priestess/whatever. As the team begins capturing and turning their enemies, they too join the fight against the Asgardian sorceress and when Enchantress decides to cut her losses and drop the west coast into the Pacific, these "We're Avengers too" guys take her down in epic fashion.

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Old 10-31-2012, 04:31 PM   #5
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Nope. The New Avengers were one of the poorer Bendis ideas. Keep the Avengers as the Big Guys, not a team of random street levelers.

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Old 11-01-2012, 07:02 PM   #6
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True, West Coast or maybe even secret/Thunderbolts.

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Old 11-02-2012, 06:35 AM   #7
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No, too early for a spin-Avengersteam!

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Old 11-02-2012, 04:24 PM   #8
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If it was made today....

Captain America-Chris Evans
Iron Man-RDJ
Wolverine-Hugh Jackman or Jon Bernthal
Spider-Man-Andrew Garfield
Luke Cage-Henry Simmons
Spider-Woman-Michelle Ryan
Sentry-Alexander Skarsgard
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:02 AM   #9
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No.

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Old 11-05-2012, 09:19 AM   #10
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Let's wait for them to finish an Avengers trilogy before we start doing spin-off A-Bendgvers ****.

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Old 11-05-2012, 11:52 AM   #11
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Personally, I think it might just end up seeming redundant. Like if they made a War Machine movie. They already have a movie about a man in Iron Man armor, why bother going to see another film about that when you got Iron Man? So why go see a movie about other Avengers when you have the originals? The plot would be too similar, superheroes banding together as a team.
I get that what would separate them are the characters and not the powers/armor/theme. But I don't think audiences would see it that way. Maybe not even comic readers.

Perhaps some day, once the original cast has left and they run out of other Avengers like Hercules, Falcon, War Machine, Wonder Man, Vision, Scarlet Witch, Spider-Woman, Mockingbird, She-Hulk, Quicksilver, Black Panther, Namor, Ant Man, Wasp, Scott Lang, Carol/Captain Marvel, Luke Cage, etc. I'd rather see all of them before Spider-Man or Wolverine, characters who already have film franchises.
Maybe eventually (instead of a spin off) they can make this New Avengers a sequel later down the road. Like how they rebooted the Spider-Franchise. Maybe some day they will sort of reboot the Avengers and call it NEW Avengers and bring in Spider-Man, Wolverine, Dr. Strange, etc.
Avengers 1 = Avengers
Avengers 2 = Avengers Assemble maybe
Avengers 3 = Avenges Earths Mightiest Heroes
later on down the line, like Avengers 7 or something they can retool the film and bring in new Avengers like Spider-Man or Sentry and call it NEW Avengers.

Thats my opinion anyway.
I wouldn't even make a West Coast Avengers, for the same reason. I might add the idea into an Avengers sequel. The idea that the Avengers were so successful that they branched out to add a group on the West Coast to protect there. Maybe even include the team in a sequel plot but not a spin off.

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Old 11-06-2012, 04:39 PM   #12
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I think a War Machine movie could maybe work, but it would succeed or fail on their ability to give Rhodes his own compelling theme and story.

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