Official Cyclops/marsden Thread

[Sparta*]

There is no way humanly possible to justify his death...no Cyclops = no X-men in my books. I'm sure any TRUE X-fan would agree

[TheVileOne]

Well it depends on when that movie starts shooting.

Also, just about every movie especially ones like X-men have reshoots, pick-ups, and coverage. So I doubt they will be totally finished by December, probably just finished on principal production.

[MsNatchios]

Just had a thought. Maybe Marsden's couple weeks of filming consisted of mainly flashback scenes, which sucks because in that case the death scenario seems more likely.

[Octoberist]

Dude, every friggin' character had a thread but Cyclops. I had to make one b/c some people were too worried about Storm's hair. Well, at least, that was the impression that I got. I'm like "What the heck is going on here?" (By the way, the majority of the people are cool here so I hope that I'm not coming off as a jerk )

[Sparta*]

I don't give to craps about Storm in the X movies. She is just there... in the way of the other X-men. Comic book storm brings a sense of grace and wisdom whenever she was with the X-men......totally not what Halle Berry portrays. God I hate her more and more every passing second. If she becomes LEADER of the x-men I will boycott this movie!

[Supreme Power]

Originally Posted by Sparta*

I don't give to craps about Storm in the X movies. She is just there... in the way of the other X-men. Comic book storm brings a sense of grace and wisdom whenever she was with the X-men......totally not what Halle Berry portrays. God I hate her more and more every passing second. If she becomes LEADER of the x-men I will boycott this movie!

Your opinion right.

[Sparta*]

Of course thats my opinion.....I wrote it didn't I? lol

[vanillacyke]

I'm with you guys I mean I think for sure they are going to kill him but I'm definatly not happy about it!!! I wish there was something we all could do. I remeber I made a thread a long time ago stating my concern for the treatment of the character hoping some one from Fox might cross by it but I doubt they did. Do ya think anyone from Fox is reading what were throwing out on this thread or is it all in vain?

[Supreme Power]

Originally Posted by Octoberist

Trust me. It will be a BIG DEAL when the movie hits theaters this May, if Cyclops dies like a piece of crap.

I don't know... for the people who don't care now WILL 5 months from now. The mainstream and casual fans will question it.

For the people who justify Cyclops' death, well, they're so ignorant on what's going on.

I've been saying this for a while. I would rather neither Xavier or Cyclops dies. But if Xavier dies over Cyclops, and then they don't have Cyclops doing anything else but watching people from the background, with nothing else he does, I would be very upset.

[Sparta*]

Originally Posted by vanillacyke

I'm with you guys I mean I think for sure they are going to kill him but I'm definatly not happy about it!!! I wish there was something we all could do. I remeber I made a thread a long time ago stating my concern for the treatment of the character hoping some one from Fox might cross by it but I doubt they did. Do ya think anyone from Fox is reading what were throwing out on this thread or is it all in vain?

I'm sure they have read over some stuff on this sight here and there...

I just don't understand which GENIOUS writer turned to the otheres and said "Hey, I have the BEST IDEA EVER! Let's kill the most important X-man, and Xaviers first student! Totally ruining the feel of the X-men and pissing off fans all over the world!"

[vanillacyke]

Originally Posted by Sparta*

There is no way humanly possible to justify his death...no Cyclops = no X-men in my books. I'm sure any TRUE X-fan would agree

ABSOLUTLY!!!!! He's never died in the comics (He may have been fused with En Sabah Nur but he never died) and if he were to die it'd never, NEVER be at the hands of Jean thats stupid. Thats like Mary Jane killing Peter Parker, just stupid.

[vanillacyke]

Originally Posted by Sparta*

I'm sure they have read over some stuff on this sight here and there...

I just don't understand which GENIOUS writer turned to the otheres and said "Hey, I have the BEST IDEA EVER! Let's kill the most important X-man, and Xaviers first student! Totally ruining the feel of the X-men and pissing off fans all over the world!"

LMAO!!!

[Bishop2]

Well, the teaser trailer pretty much confirms Cyclops' death, it appears. I mean, he's only in two shots, both in the same location and both in the same clothing. And both from the scene mentioned in the old script review.

In fact, there's evidence here to support that EVERYTHING in the script review is still accurate, despite the claims to the contrary from Marvel.

It looks big and impressive, and the writing is going to be the disastrous letdown.

[StevieNicks1988]

I'm just going to give up, because despite my claims and proof that things have changed, you people are still too narrow-minded, so off I go, and I'll come back in May and laugh either way if he does die or not. 1) Because you people will throw hissyfits because they basically SAVE Cyclops not only from embarrasing the character more but having him just stand around like a pansy and have nothing to do and 2) Boycotting the movie just because one character dies. It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. It's like people boycotting Batman Begins because they casted Katie Holmes or boycotting the comics because mutants are getting de-powered and what-not. It's stupid.

Arad already gave the hint; 'in the comics, people die and come back all the time', that should be enough right there that gives the hint Cyclops will most likely come back in the third act. How do I know? I don't, and neither do any of you have any proof to debunk it, either. Really, do you see James Marsden upset about this? No, after he'd filmed his scenes and even before in interviews about X3, he seemed rather normal and excited about the movie and the production and talking about Cyke in general, where-as actors such as Pierce Brosnan throw hissyfits and slam the company and producers for letting him go of the 007 role.

As I said in the past pages, things have changed, months have passed, the script has been re-written and re-done time and time again, so practically any and/or every scene could have been re-worked and tampered with.

Perhaps now, Cyclops has more scenes than we thought and they moved the lake scene further into the movie, so we see where Cyclops goes after he leaves the X-Men and why he winds up there. Perhaps Cyclops doesn't die and he comes back in the third act when Jean goes good and together they defeat Magneto and save thousands of mutants. Perhaps he does go out quick and painless, but they give him one of those 'you'll never forget it' death scenes like Obi-Wan from Star Wars or Jean from X2 or Doc Octopus from Spider-Man 2.

I shall wait until May to find out the answer, but I'll leave yall with a little advice. Things can always be changed, no matter what, especially endings (X2 anybody?). Just remember what was said earlier: 'And one of the producers said they had most of Marsden's scenes done... Not all. That means he would be going back for more... highly unlikely if he simply dies at the lake.' I'm going to try and find links and sources and material to back this up, but I've been hearing quite a lot of chatter and mumblings about Marsden being on a closed set since he was last on set a month or so back, so don't go counting your ducks yet, because you just may be in for a surprise. Night people.

[lazerustheduck]

Originally Posted by ShadowBoxing

This is all good evidence...the rest is heresay...however you are correct that I have heard about a twist ending. And remember we a mysterious Asian mutant whose powers are yet unknown

If you know the rules of heresay why you still touting that old script?

[StevieNicks1988]

Take a look at this. Jacket, normal shirt, looks like a man on a holiday, right? Regular civilian clothes, right? Normal black or dark blue, whatever, jacket with a red/yellowish-tan stripe down it. Now, check his pic on the official mugshots. (Can someone send me the mugshot pic so I can outline them or someone do them for me for visuals?) There is a very noticable gold line directly under his chin that does not appear on his jacket in the lake scene on the teaser. Also, he is wearing a plain shirt in the trailer, while in the mugshot is obviously leather that extends to each side. I can't really tell, but it also looks like there is a hardly noticable zipper line down the middle of it, where in the teaser, his jacket is obviously open, revealing his shirt. Also, don't try and comment about what I'm seeing on the shirt is the red/yellow-ish stripe, as I see a gold colored line, where there the red comes first.

Originally Posted by Sparta*

There is no way humanly possible to justify his death...no Cyclops = no X-men in my books. I'm sure any TRUE X-fan would agree

Completely Agree...it boggles me as to how passive people are reacting to Scott's possible death...especially at the hands of Jean, in such a LAME ASS way...if jean is gonna kill him...at least let him fight her!...but regardless scott shouldnt be killed off just because Marsden() was on set for too short a time...that is nuts.

I have some further hope that were being led to beleive Scott dies, because about a month ago Zak Penn said that the one thing he can say to us worried fans out there is "Dont pay attention to a rough draft that we wrote before the movie even started filming!! ALOT OF CHANGES WERE MADE"

hopefully scott's impending doom is one of them...

I will tell you this right now...This movie when it comes out could be the messiah of Xfilms...it could be better than Batman Begins...but if Scott dies...in my books it will lose all potential at being a 9-10 and go straight to a crummy 3-4 ...IMHO.

:lease God dont let scott die!!!::

[MsNatchios]

It's called photoshop. Marsden was probably in Australia filming SR and couldn't do the publicity stills, hence why he's wearing the shades instead of his typical uniform visor. Maybe that's the photography that he allegedly had yet to finish.

[aaron]

Originally Posted by Bishop2

Well, the teaser trailer pretty much confirms Cyclops' death, it appears. I mean, he's only in two shots, both in the same location and both in the same clothing. And both from the scene mentioned in the old script review.

In fact, there's evidence here to support that EVERYTHING in the script review is still accurate, despite the claims to the contrary from Marvel.

It looks big and impressive, and the writing is going to be the disastrous letdown.

Hes only in 2 shots, angel gets less shown, does that mean he'll die aswell?

and i think theyre doing exactly what the trailer is supposed to do...tease us, im sure he wont die

[aaron]

Originally Posted by tonytr1687

It's very possible the two weeks of filming consisted of a few scenes prior to his Alkali Lake death, and then the death scene itself. Why two weeks? Could be a number of things, be it the scenes were scheduled to film days apart, other cast members had to be available, etc. Please provide a link that says Ian Mckellen only filmed for two weeks on X2. Two weeks is NOT a long time. The average for a supporting/main character to be filming a movie of this type and size is 4-5 months. A far cry from a mere two weeks. And just look at how long Marsden has been filming Superman Returns: Since early summer with only a two-week haitus to film X3...and he's only a supporting role/third-wheel character in SR!

5 months? ok but this movie in total will have like 3 months and a few weeks filming, and 2 weeks out of that is 1/7 which isnt too bad

[Retroman]

IF the producers are killing off Cyke because of his Superman schedule then they're lying i think. They had more than enough time to give him a decent supporting role. This was when Marsden was free to shoot....

September 9 - Mid October

November 24 - ?????

[aaron]

If they do kill him off it will no doubt be because of him working with singer

[Retroman]

Originally Posted by kol_lover

If they do kill him off it will no doubt be because of him working with singer

Who they (producers) call a friend and would 'welcome back for another movie'. The hypocrocy of Hollywood.

[aaron]

Originally Posted by Retroman

Who they (producers) call a friend and would 'welcome back for another movie'. The hypocrocy of Hollywood.

Huh huh

well i just think they wouldnt hint at cyclops death in the trailer so much, i think of it as they could be showing it that way in the trailer as a joke against what we learnt about him from the AICN script review, that it will be a surprise and he'll have an important role or it is in fact the end for him with a very small role, and they are just double-bluffing us

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by kol_lover

and i think theyre doing exactly what the trailer is supposed to do...tease us, im sure he wont die

Agree. They sure are building up the rumors, nothing more. I refuse to believe we have almost the entire plot figured out. I'm sure the producers are trying to surprise us, and they would keep Cyke's death top-secret if it were real.