"Far From Home" Talkback/Discussion

Red · 02-01-2006, 02:32 PM

Review up soon.

union_jak · 02-01-2006, 02:45 PM

All I can say is, I didn't want it to end like that...

Son_of_Kalibak · 02-01-2006, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red X

Review up soon.

I'll believe it when your reviews (that were to be up soon) are finally posted for Patriot Act, The Great Brain Robbery, and Grudge Match.

At least Binker posts his/her review and doesn't just start a thread with absolutely no information.

Haven't seen the episode yet. Did they air out of order or something? I thought Grudge Match was supposed to air after Far From Home.

Binker · 02-01-2006, 04:51 PM

I, a he, don't really start up another thread with no review. I post a review so a actual discussion can start.

Oh, thank you for mentioning me.

Hush · 02-01-2006, 06:09 PM

So what happened???

Inner City Blue · 02-01-2006, 09:47 PM

Some people will whine if I don't put spoiler tags, so here it goes:

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

[cue intro]

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

The episode begins in the past and Green Lantern is asking Supergirl if she's ready, this is in reference to the two supervillains causing mayhem in the streets, Queen Bee and Dr. Cyber. Kara makes short work of them and pummels both villains. But it turns out that this is not a real fight, but a simulation for training. Kara doesn't feel it's much of a workout.

Green Lantern then cues Green Arrow in the control room that they should up the difficulty, Superman is looking on at the same time. They then introduce two more villains, I don't read comics so I don't know the names, some ogreish looking guy and the guy with a burning green skull. This is obviously much harder for her and she proceeds to fight them. There is then a cut over to Green Arrow talking to Superman about Kara and how she's 21, but she rather be training. Superman obviously doesn't see the issue and feels that she is fine, but then Green Arrow points to the fact that Kara never grew up on Earth (like Superman) and that she is a bit of an outsider. Basically the conversation is that Green Arrow wants Superman to be a bit more supportive of Kara and not just treat her like another superhero (as she's not a native inhabitant of Earth).

The scene goes back to the simulation and Kara has made short of her foes. She then asks Green Lantern if he's going to go down the list of all the things she did wrong, but he tells her that she has nothing else to learn. Green Arrow comes in to congratulate her on a record for the simulation, but then a sphere forms around GL GA and SG. Superman seeing this rushes to their aid, but it's too late as the vanish.

The three heros then reappear in the future where upon introduction, Kara attacks Brainy, whose real name is Brainiac 5. Green Arrow stops Kara from attacking him to give him a chance to explain himself. It turns out that Brainiac learned to pass on his code biologically some time in the past and Brainiac 5 is a descendant, he sees himself as someone that is going to make up for all the damage Brainiac caused in the past. The other guy's name (heavyset fellow) is Bouncing Boy.

The future is about 1000 years from the present and Brainiac 5 then goes on to tell about the ambush on the Legion. He also talks about Fateful Five and how it looks like they're planning on attacking a central planet in the system.

It's at this time that I actually have something to do but I will be unable to finish, but that's the synopsis up to about 5 minutes into the show. I'm sure someone else will pick up the slack, these things do take a lot of time.

Binker · 02-02-2006, 01:31 AM

MY REVIEW:
We continue with again another break from the Legion arc with a stand alone of sorts. Or a unofficial pilot of the new show in development "Legion of Superheroes". Because this episode introduces...well...like I said; Legion of the Superheroes. But its actually "Supergirl and the Legion of Superheroes" like the title changed comic starting in March from DC Comics.

The future team of Superheroes hasn't been seen since Superman: The Animated Series episode "New Kids in Town" that aired on October 31st, 1998. Eight years ago! Bringing back the team after that long was great to see, and having Supergirl in relation of the comic was interesting. It makes you think since shows like this don't take a short time to do, had brief discussions with DC Comics and their Infinite Crisis plans. And maybe know somethings we don't at this time...

The plot is about the last of Legion (of Superheroes) at its weakest from the Fatal Five. To counterattack, Brainiac 5 uses a time partol to bring back from the 21st Century three heroes to their future: Supergirl, Green Lantern & Green Arrow. The only thing is; after the mission was successful, only two made it back home...

Supergirl had some Silver Age charm to her. When she was fighting in a simulater, as she was being hit by darts, she says "That tickles". Then when she grabs the gun she says "I'll take that (crushes gun) thanks." Then punshes the guy who goes 50 feet into the air. He didn't hurt them, since they're Zeta androids.

The focus was on Supergirl. In the beginning, Green Arrow and Superman talk about her. Supes says that he wasn't that thrilled about her taking on the "family business" but he's accepted it. From Green Arrow's POV, he says that sometimes Supes seems to act like she is just "another cape" and that she does honor her cousin, as seen from the costume change.

We also get a forbidden love thing going on here with Brainiac & Supergirl. Green Arrow pointed it for our organic, acting almost like Vulcan friend. I said it was forbidden since....well I think you know why.

The animation was fine. The music, while it was pure JLU at the beginning, the rest was like it came from a Star Trek show. I think that wasn't bad because of the the Legion of Superheroes universe. And its ships and United Planets. But at times, I couldn't help but think it was ripped from an episode from....lets say Star Trek: Enterprise. Dini's story was great like always who have seen his work on shows. We don't have to worry that this was his last work on the DCAU, since he's working on the Detective Comics this time. He is now part of the folklore then just basing his work on it.

Overall, this was a great episode. Now from the fact that I didn't like the music at tiem would make you think I was gonna give it a lower grade but I ain't. This story was great; fantastic, sad at some times, funny at others. And with Supergirl, it made it cute. Dini hasn't lost his touch.

RATING: 8.5/10

Next up; Ancient History. With Hawkman's return, Vixen, Shayera, and Green Lantern. And finally, the love tri-....square will be resolved.

OtepApe · 02-02-2006, 09:55 AM

I liked the ep, but it cemented to me that I won't be nowhere near as pumped for a Legion show, then I am for the JLU show. I just don't want to see JLU go, I guess.

Fuzzy Dude Fan · 02-02-2006, 12:57 PM

I liked this episode, but I think its one of the very few JLU eps that would've benefited from the old one-hour format. Maybe if they knew they had more than 13 episodes this season, they would've made it one hour. It was good, but it felt a bit rushed.

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

Ollie, as always, was awesome. I wonder if there's any chance of a Green Arrow DTV somewhere down the line. Ha, Superman's line @ the end made me laugh so hard.

I'm really, really gonna miss this show.

Fuzzy Dude Fan · 02-02-2006, 12:57 PM

Double post, sorry!

Pyrthas · 02-02-2006, 09:27 PM

Yeah, I had the same reaction. The episode felt like nothing but the bare minimum of plot points, with some action thrown in because they needed to have some. It worked, and I liked it, but it seemed like it would have been much better with an hour.

Also, the ending was pretty obvious from the start, and I suspect that with a little more time, they could have built up to it slightly more gradually.

jaydawg · 02-02-2006, 10:19 PM

Wow. This is the first episode from season 5 I genuinly did not like. I mean it started out fine enough, but damn was this predictable. Paul Dini really has gone down hill since his BTAS. I can't believe the same guy who wrote "Harley and Ivy" and "Over the Edge" wrote this. Generic music, generic foes (shame too cause I actually like the Fatal Five), generic plot... just disappointed. At least monday's episode looks fantastic. John attacked in his own home? I'm so there. And we'll finally see John and Shayera get back together. Thank God.

LobokDaikon · 02-02-2006, 10:33 PM

It was annoying enough for them to imitate the jerky, hand-held camera look for fights before, but in this episode they used it for a bit on one of the aerial fights, which makes no sense. I don't ever remember the cameramen on COPS having jetpacks.

zanos · 02-03-2006, 12:57 AM

I didn't really like this episode. It was really rushed and not setup very well at all.

IronLion · 02-03-2006, 04:41 AM

i didnt really like this episode much, but it was probably written as a precursor/pilot to the los show that keeps getting mentioned.

oh the way this season is panning out, it seems that it is the last season, finishing stuff off and giving cameos here and there......

Red · 02-03-2006, 11:30 AM

Happy now Son_of_Kalibak?

I quite enjoyed this episode, it was nice that Supergirl got some focus.

Once again we saw the Green Arrow/Supergirl, big brother/little sister relationship, which I alwayed from way back in Fearful Symmetry. We also got to see Supermans's thoughts on SG living in his shadow. As i said earlier the main focus was Supergirl, so aswell as seeing Kara's "big brother" and "Cousin" we also get her mentor Green Lantern, and it seems in his eyes she doesn't need anymore training.

Anyway see also go to see the legion of Superheroes!...well two of them bouncing boy and Brainiac 5. It was interesting to see a group of heroes in the future it was more Star Trek than JLU. Now on to the Brainiac Supergirl romance, it could have worked if it wasn't so quick they did love each other.

**** 1/2 out of 5

Movies205 · 02-03-2006, 02:35 PM

The creators seem to be wrapping everything up, which makes me happy. They don't really have enough time to do what everything they probably want do so I can give them a little wee-way in terms of rushing.

Any the GA parts are great

My only problem with JLU is the dialouge some of it's just really bad

Anyway I thought the episode was great

Lightspeed · 02-04-2006, 01:26 AM

This whole episode would have been worth it to see Superman's reaction if GL and GA told him the name of the boy that Kara liked. Alas they didn't

Binker · 02-04-2006, 07:24 PM

I couldn't stop myself: on my review for JLU's final episode, I will have something special for you fans.

For you who know what this is, please DO NOT tell anyone else.

hippie_hunter · 02-04-2006, 09:25 PM

I found it funny that Supergirl said that

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

Hush · 02-04-2006, 11:02 PM

Im tight lipped Binker.

Son_of_Kalibak · 02-05-2006, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red X

Happy now Son_of_Kalibak?

I quite enjoyed this episode, it was nice that Supergirl got some focus.

Once again we saw the Green Arrow/Supergirl, big brother/little sister relationship, which I alwayed from way back in Fearful Symmetry. We also got to see Supermans's thoughts on SG living in his shadow. As i said earlier the main focus was Supergirl, so aswell as seeing Kara's "big brother" and "Cousin" we also get her mentor Green Lantern, and it seems in his eyes she doesn't need anymore training.

Anyway see also go to see the legion of Superheroes!...well two of them bouncing boy and Brainiac 5. It was interesting to see a group of heroes in the future it was more Star Trek than JLU. Now on to the Brainiac Supergirl romance, it could have worked if it wasn't so quick they did love each other.

**** 1/2 out of 5

Lol, I was just messin' with ya. I just thought it was funny that the reviews never came.

Generation Lee · 02-06-2006, 08:02 AM

Nice to see SG come out and show she no week super hero like alot of women appear in various shows, comics.

But and I just watched it this morning, almost made me late for work, it was rushed a two parter or at least a follow up would be nice to introduce people to what comming next.

And for the love of God give SG a proper long bellowing cape I'm sick of those pieces of rags they gave her a BG.

Red · 02-06-2006, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Son_of_Kalibak

Lol, I was just messin' with ya. I just thought it was funny that the reviews never came.

Fair enough

guyverfanboy · 02-07-2006, 01:42 PM

Did anyone notice reference to Crisis on Inifinite Earths, where GL is holding Supergirl's body after she got the crap beaten out of her?

02-01-2006, 02:45 PM	#2
union_jak Licky licky Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Posts: 12,632	Re: "Far From Home" Talkback/Discussion All I can say is, I didn't want it to end like that...

02-01-2006, 04:51 PM	#4
Binker Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4,798	Re: "Far From Home" Talkback/Discussion I, a he, don't really start up another thread with no review. I post a review so a actual discussion can start. Oh, thank you for mentioning me.

02-01-2006, 09:47 PM	#6
Inner City Blue Side-Kick Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 279	Re: "Far From Home" Talkback/Discussion Some people will whine if I don't put spoiler tags, so here it goes: Spoiler!!! Click to Read!: The episode begins with a scene of a futuristic city, and in fact it is the future. You come two a hallway where two men are walking down the hallway, one is a heavyset man and the next is a man with blonde hair and the trademark Brainiac head markings, nicknamed Brainy. They are a part of a group called the Legion of Superheroes and they have just been ambushed by the Fatal Five, during this attack all the members except the two of them were captured. To save their friends, Brainy decides to recruit superheroes from the past, much to the chagrin of his teammate. Supposedly records from the past indicate that three members of the Justice League travelled into the future, but only two made it home. The obvious idea is that someone died and didn't make it back. [cue intro] Spoiler!!! Click to Read!: The episode begins in the past and Green Lantern is asking Supergirl if she's ready, this is in reference to the two supervillains causing mayhem in the streets, Queen Bee and Dr. Cyber. Kara makes short work of them and pummels both villains. But it turns out that this is not a real fight, but a simulation for training. Kara doesn't feel it's much of a workout. Green Lantern then cues Green Arrow in the control room that they should up the difficulty, Superman is looking on at the same time. They then introduce two more villains, I don't read comics so I don't know the names, some ogreish looking guy and the guy with a burning green skull. This is obviously much harder for her and she proceeds to fight them. There is then a cut over to Green Arrow talking to Superman about Kara and how she's 21, but she rather be training. Superman obviously doesn't see the issue and feels that she is fine, but then Green Arrow points to the fact that Kara never grew up on Earth (like Superman) and that she is a bit of an outsider. Basically the conversation is that Green Arrow wants Superman to be a bit more supportive of Kara and not just treat her like another superhero (as she's not a native inhabitant of Earth). The scene goes back to the simulation and Kara has made short of her foes. She then asks Green Lantern if he's going to go down the list of all the things she did wrong, but he tells her that she has nothing else to learn. Green Arrow comes in to congratulate her on a record for the simulation, but then a sphere forms around GL GA and SG. Superman seeing this rushes to their aid, but it's too late as the vanish. The three heros then reappear in the future where upon introduction, Kara attacks Brainy, whose real name is Brainiac 5. Green Arrow stops Kara from attacking him to give him a chance to explain himself. It turns out that Brainiac learned to pass on his code biologically some time in the past and Brainiac 5 is a descendant, he sees himself as someone that is going to make up for all the damage Brainiac caused in the past. The other guy's name (heavyset fellow) is Bouncing Boy. The future is about 1000 years from the present and Brainiac 5 then goes on to tell about the ambush on the Legion. He also talks about Fateful Five and how it looks like they're planning on attacking a central planet in the system. It's at this time that I actually have something to do but I will be unable to finish, but that's the synopsis up to about 5 minutes into the show. I'm sure someone else will pick up the slack, these things do take a lot of time.

02-02-2006, 01:31 AM	#7
Binker Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4,798	Re: "Far From Home" Talkback/Discussion MY REVIEW: We continue with again another break from the Legion arc with a stand alone of sorts. Or a unofficial pilot of the new show in development "Legion of Superheroes". Because this episode introduces...well...like I said; Legion of the Superheroes. But its actually "Supergirl and the Legion of Superheroes" like the title changed comic starting in March from DC Comics. The future team of Superheroes hasn't been seen since Superman: The Animated Series episode "New Kids in Town" that aired on October 31st, 1998. Eight years ago! Bringing back the team after that long was great to see, and having Supergirl in relation of the comic was interesting. It makes you think since shows like this don't take a short time to do, had brief discussions with DC Comics and their Infinite Crisis plans. And maybe know somethings we don't at this time... The plot is about the last of Legion (of Superheroes) at its weakest from the Fatal Five. To counterattack, Brainiac 5 uses a time partol to bring back from the 21st Century three heroes to their future: Supergirl, Green Lantern & Green Arrow. The only thing is; after the mission was successful, only two made it back home... Supergirl had some Silver Age charm to her. When she was fighting in a simulater, as she was being hit by darts, she says "That tickles". Then when she grabs the gun she says "I'll take that (crushes gun) thanks." Then punshes the guy who goes 50 feet into the air. He didn't hurt them, since they're Zeta androids. The focus was on Supergirl. In the beginning, Green Arrow and Superman talk about her. Supes says that he wasn't that thrilled about her taking on the "family business" but he's accepted it. From Green Arrow's POV, he says that sometimes Supes seems to act like she is just "another cape" and that she does honor her cousin, as seen from the costume change. We also get a forbidden love thing going on here with Brainiac & Supergirl. Green Arrow pointed it for our organic, acting almost like Vulcan friend. I said it was forbidden since....well I think you know why. The animation was fine. The music, while it was pure JLU at the beginning, the rest was like it came from a Star Trek show. I think that wasn't bad because of the the Legion of Superheroes universe. And its ships and United Planets. But at times, I couldn't help but think it was ripped from an episode from....lets say Star Trek: Enterprise. Dini's story was great like always who have seen his work on shows. We don't have to worry that this was his last work on the DCAU, since he's working on the Detective Comics this time. He is now part of the folklore then just basing his work on it. Overall, this was a great episode. Now from the fact that I didn't like the music at tiem would make you think I was gonna give it a lower grade but I ain't. This story was great; fantastic, sad at some times, funny at others. And with Supergirl, it made it cute. Dini hasn't lost his touch. RATING: 8.5/10 Next up; Ancient History. With Hawkman's return, Vixen, Shayera, and Green Lantern. And finally, the love tri-....square will be resolved.

02-02-2006, 09:55 AM	#8
OtepApe Side-Kick Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds, UK Posts: 7,695	Re: "Far From Home" Talkback/Discussion I liked the ep, but it cemented to me that I won't be nowhere near as pumped for a Legion show, then I am for the JLU show. I just don't want to see JLU go, I guess. __________________ A man may fight for many things. His country, his friends, his principles, the glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child. But personally, I'd mud-wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sack of French porn.

02-02-2006, 12:57 PM	#9
Fuzzy Dude Fan Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 97	Re: "Far From Home" Talkback/Discussion I liked this episode, but I think its one of the very few JLU eps that would've benefited from the old one-hour format. Maybe if they knew they had more than 13 episodes this season, they would've made it one hour. It was good, but it felt a bit rushed. Spoiler!!! Click to Read!: Especially Brainac 5 and Supergirl's romance. It was a nice send off for her and I liked the characterisation betweetn SG and GL, as well as SG and GA. Ollie, as always, was awesome. I wonder if there's any chance of a Green Arrow DTV somewhere down the line. Ha, Superman's line @ the end made me laugh so hard. I'm really, really gonna miss this show.

02-02-2006, 09:27 PM	#11
Pyrthas Side-Kick Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 81	Re: "Far From Home" Talkback/Discussion Yeah, I had the same reaction. The episode felt like nothing but the bare minimum of plot points, with some action thrown in because they needed to have some. It worked, and I liked it, but it seemed like it would have been much better with an hour. Also, the ending was pretty obvious from the start, and I suspect that with a little more time, they could have built up to it slightly more gradually.

02-02-2006, 10:19 PM	#12
jaydawg Side-Kick Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The land of web slinging love Posts: 11,637	Re: "Far From Home" Talkback/Discussion Wow. This is the first episode from season 5 I genuinly did not like. I mean it started out fine enough, but damn was this predictable. Paul Dini really has gone down hill since his BTAS. I can't believe the same guy who wrote "Harley and Ivy" and "Over the Edge" wrote this. Generic music, generic foes (shame too cause I actually like the Fatal Five), generic plot... just disappointed. At least monday's episode looks fantastic. John attacked in his own home? I'm so there. And we'll finally see John and Shayera get back together. Thank God. __________________ Iron Man: They'll come for you in Atlantis, too. Namor: No. That would be an act of war. Most probably you'll destroy yourselves before they even consider us... and it'll be our planet again. Either way, we're fine with it.

02-02-2006, 10:33 PM	#13
LobokDaikon Side-Kick Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,426	Re: "Far From Home" Talkback/Discussion It was annoying enough for them to imitate the jerky, hand-held camera look for fights before, but in this episode they used it for a bit on one of the aerial fights, which makes no sense. I don't ever remember the cameramen on COPS having jetpacks.

02-03-2006, 12:57 AM	#14
zanos Banned User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,812	Re: "Far From Home" Talkback/Discussion I didn't really like this episode. It was really rushed and not setup very well at all.

02-03-2006, 04:41 AM	#15
IronLion Side-Kick Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire, England Posts: 904	Re: "Far From Home" Talkback/Discussion i didnt really like this episode much, but it was probably written as a precursor/pilot to the los show that keeps getting mentioned. oh the way this season is panning out, it seems that it is the last season, finishing stuff off and giving cameos here and there......

02-04-2006, 01:26 AM	#18
Lightspeed Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Another Dimension Posts: 218	Re: "Far From Home" Talkback/Discussion This whole episode would have been worth it to see Superman's reaction if GL and GA told him the name of the boy that Kara liked. Alas they didn't

02-04-2006, 07:24 PM	#19
Binker Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4,798	Re: "Far From Home" Talkback/Discussion I couldn't stop myself: on my review for JLU's final episode, I will have something special for you fans. For you who know what this is, please DO NOT tell anyone else.

02-04-2006, 09:25 PM	#20
hippie_hunter The King is Back! SHH! Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Titanium Groceries Posts: 49,859	Re: "Far From Home" Talkback/Discussion I found it funny that Supergirl said that Spoiler!!! Click to Read!: she wanted to cop a feel on Brainiac 5 __________________ Titanium Groceries!!!

02-06-2006, 08:02 AM	#23
Generation Lee Side-Kick Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Béal Feirste/Belfast Ireland Posts: 1,744	Re: "Far From Home" Talkback/Discussion Nice to see SG come out and show she no week super hero like alot of women appear in various shows, comics. But and I just watched it this morning, almost made me late for work, it was rushed a two parter or at least a follow up would be nice to introduce people to what comming next. And for the love of God give SG a proper long bellowing cape I'm sick of those pieces of rags they gave her a BG.

02-07-2006, 01:42 PM	#25
guyverfanboy Side-Kick Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Jose, CA, USA ^_^ Posts: 329	Re: "Far From Home" Talkback/Discussion Did anyone notice reference to Crisis on Inifinite Earths, where GL is holding Supergirl's body after she got the crap beaten out of her? __________________ "or we could find out for sure if Batman has tapped some Wonder ass :o" - Spidey-Bat

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