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Old 02-08-2006, 07:47 PM   #1
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Default The official JUSTICE discussion thread (#9 review added)

This thread deals with the hot JUSTICE series by the great Alex Ross.

To begin this topic, here is my reviews for the first two issues:

JUSTICE #1

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I was planning to buy this series once it was collected in a Hardcover or a Trade Paperback. But once I found out it was bi-monthly, I thought it would be hard to remember it when it came out. Then one day in a comic shop, I saw the 3rd printing of Issue #1. One left. I thought what the hell and got it.

First of all, its good they used this cover. The 1st printing's cover wasn't all that great in my mind, I don't know why but it just wasn't settling on my side. The 2nd printing's wasn't bad nor wasn't it good, let's say it was too "white". The 3rd print was finally golden. Why? Well the cover of the top seven looking at the far distance fits perfectly for a comic called JUSTICE and its focuses on a JUSTICE League of America. Get it?

Anyway, the story starts out with what we saw in a preview partly in Wizard magazine then the other few pages on sites like Newsarama. The coming of the end of the world that the JLA can not stop. Luckily its all a dream, sadly its shared by every supervillian of the world. Later, Aquaman goes to investigate a huge black dome in the water. Its belongs to Lex Luthor and his Legion of Doom...

I always loved Alex Ross' artwork after reading Batman: War on Crime, then Kingdom Come, and The World's Greatest Super-Heroes (collecting the six Dini/Ross books). It doesn't matter who the writer is, he always does great stories because he is the one who comes up with it, he just needs someone to write it out or like it is here, he might need someone else to throw ideas around.

Anyway, the first issue here, from its artwork and the return of the old roots of many characters is brillant. Even at a standard page length for comic book issues, you get a feeling of "OMG, this is great. Can't wait for the next!". The story is obiviously about the JLA vs. Legion of Doom. If I didn't see those JLU episodes airing at the UK (as of 2/8/06), I would think both the show and the story were going to be similar. Good thing it ain't because that gives us two different stories and not just one being rehashed in tw different universes.

RATING: 10/10

JUSTICE #2

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I had gotten Issue 3 but had to wait for Issue 2 so I couldn't wait for the third issue. All because I wanted to wait for the collection. Anyway, I got the new printing of Issue 2 with the Batman cover on it from a new comic book store. Let's get started.

Just like my review for Issue 1 and its 3rd cover, I want to talk first about the cover here: Batman. Now the first printing's cover was fine. But it had Martian Manhunter and Wonder Woman, whom didn't appear here. So the second printing's fit this story since its about Batman, its a comic tale on him.

As I've said, its a Batman tale in this issue. The story is about The Riddler stealing data on on EVERYTHING on the JLA, including who they really are. While Batman chases him down and they fight on the streets, to a club called the "Batcave", to the graveyard, the search goes on for Aquaman.

I don't know what to say except that the quality that was in the first issue contrineus here. Batman had more of a Keaton look to him. You have this feeling of his voice beign the great Kevin Conroy when he talks in the issue. Also, the Riddler appears and looks great. Nothing like all of his incarnations. You also get the John Glover voice of the BTAS/TNBA Riddler when you read this too.

It was great seeing the Batmobile and more of Alex Ross' Gotham City and Arkham Asylum. And Ross seems to be playing the changing Batcaves as it happened in the previous Batman film series as this version of the Batcave is very different from the one previously in War on Crime and Liberty and Justice. But hey, I still love it.

RATING: 10/10


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Old 02-08-2006, 08:32 PM   #2
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I'm don't usually buy DC books,but I've been following this mini-series and I really love it.Ross' art gives this a real timeless feel,and the story isn't too complicated requiring knowledge of events which occured 20 years ago.

Despite now knowing several villains,issues 1 to 3 have been good and I think the best is yet to come.

Previews to #4 look really good.
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Old 02-08-2006, 09:11 PM   #3
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3RD REVIEW:
The second issue was a Batman tale of the whole story. Still, it was needed. The third issue continues ont eh whole storylien that is JLA/Legion.

The storyline is like this: Jonn, like others, are looking for Aquaman. While Brainiac gets his experiments ready for Aquaman, Gorilla Grodd notices Jonn inside the Legion HQ; The Hall of Doom. As Cheetah does her spell and gets ready to attack Wonder Woman, every villain gets into place as they finally get the gold mine of the JLA.

This issue is like the other ones; perfect. The art, storyline, all good. As you may know, I didn't do the comparsion of covers because...well, theres only one and that shows what this issue has. No bother to mention.

The main plotline moves forward in this issue. Now we go center stage with the plans Luthor and the rest have in store that is directly from that nightmare they had. I don't know but...I never read or know....ANYTHING of the pre-crisis Wonder Woman comics or stuff but she in JUSTICE is exactly what she is now (until IC changes things). I don't know if that's what it was also back in the '70s times but...it wasn't, right? I don't mind either way, its who she is. Why fight it, AT ALL?

Overall, great and perfect. Even the villians look nice. That's Alex Ross for you. Can't wait til Issue 4, where the adventure continues.....

RATING: 10/10


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Old 02-14-2006, 12:13 PM   #4
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Old 02-15-2006, 05:19 PM   #5
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#4 kicked ass.Greatest gang up on Supes ever.

Best issue of the series.

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Old 02-15-2006, 10:53 PM   #6
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Issue 4 was really good...however I found Supes reactions in the last page unbelievable.

The Villains were great & pure evil.

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This has been an absolutely excellent series. The characterisation of the whole ensemble has been perfectly done, and I love the whole sense of mystery surrounding the villain's plans.

But yes, Issue 4 has been the best one yet. I got goosebumps reading it. Lex Luthor's issue-long speech, intercut with the methodical destruction of the JLA, brilliantly executed. I really can't wait for Issue 5!

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Old 02-16-2006, 06:25 PM   #8
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#4 REVIEW:
The Legion's speech, the fights of Wonder Woman & Cheetah including Superman and Bizarro. The dark turning of villians overtaking the heroes and Superman's cry "Help Me!"

By this issue, the series starts to hit its dark side. And I would have to agree with everyone, this is the best issue yet. For anyone who has been second guessing about it, start getting it again. By this issue, you're mssing alot.

As I already explained on the story (first paragraph), the storyline starts going. Bizzaro, Parasite, Grundy, & Metallo go after Superman as he is still Clark Kent. Dinah & Oliver is hit with fear by Scarecrow, Mirror Master attacks Flash's wife, Hawkman and Hawkgirl are attacked by Toyman, and so on.

I don't know if this was because of the relaism of the art, but I found myself being scared & sad. I know this is Issue 4 but the JLA is being taken down and they can't stop it and fight back. They know their identities, and because of their strongpoint has been hit by their enemies, they're losing.

On the hightlights here was the speech. Somehow, Luthor is right. The JLA saves us from meteors, aliens, and criminals. But they don't go and do the same to save others from disease, world hunger, and medicial problems. That's what Legion is doing. Even if they're villians and attacking the JLA, what they say and what they've been doing since Issue 1 proves their point. So if the villians are helping and doing stuff that JLA could but didn't do, then do we still need the super-powered heroes?

Another hightlight; Luthor mentions Superman's attempt and failed mission against world hunger from Superman: Peace on Earth. So I was right; JUSTICE is a sequel to THE WORLD'S GREATEST SUPER-HEROES. I wonder if this is also a prequel or a bridge leading to KINGDOM COME...

Overall, Issue 4 kicks things up and I can't wait for Issue 5. Damn the bi-
monthly plan.

RATING: 10/10

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Last issue was great, poor poor superman.

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On the hightlights here was the speech. Somehow, Luthor is right. The JLA saves us from meteors, aliens, and criminals. But they don't go and do the same to save others from disease, world hunger, and medicial problems. That's what Legion is doing. Even if they're villians and attacking the JLA, what they say and what they've been doing since Issue 1 proves their point. So if the villians are helping and doing stuff that JLA could but didn't do, then do we still need the super-powered heroes?
I think the Luthor's speech was not right. Lex Luthor, along with all the other villains, is the reason the heroes haven't fixed the world, they're too busy stopping the villains from trying to take over the world. If there were no villains causing mayhem, maybe superman and the others heroes could spend their time helping end world hunger and ending wars. Luthor seems to be making a power grab along with trying to destroy the heroes standing in his way of world domination.

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JLA and other heroes don't help us with everything for one simple reason. We have to learn to do it for ourselves. They are here to help us on the occasional alien invasion, but their goal is to watch over us and make sure we develop instead of spoon-feeding everything to us.

And just to clarify something.. Alex Ross does *not* draw this series. He only colors it. Doug Braithwaite draws it.

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It was a great issue...although I'm a little iffy on that last page. I didn't much care for it...I didn't mind the massive beat down...just Superman's reaction to it...it seemed incredibly out of character. But it was still a great book.

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Man,I totally loved the last page.It made total sense,Supes realized he was beat and he was desparate.The reason I think alot of people were surprised was because we rarely see Supes all teary eyed and helpless.But in this case,it made total sense.

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It was a great issue...although I'm a little iffy on that last page. I didn't much care for it...I didn't mind the massive beat down...just Superman's reaction to it...it seemed incredibly out of character. But it was still a great book.

Yeah I didn't like seeing Supes crying & begging for his life either.

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Really, the only major, glaring flaw is the extremely sloppy characterization in this book. Superman taking the time to make a joke while Metropolis blows up, J'onn falling to Grodd so easily, J'onn's really lame inner monologue and Superman begging for help were just really bad.

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It's out of continuity, isn't it? Whatever Ross says goes, pretty much.

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Okay, change "sloppy" to "lame" then, jackass.

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omg lolz ur so tempermentull

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ur such a internet lingo fanboy

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#6 cover

I like The Atom, but this cover kinda blows:


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I can figure out Atom and Ivy, but what's that?

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i dont see a cover.

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Yeah, that eye Atom is beating, it can't be Ivy otherwise her reflection wouldn't be there.

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Wow that is a great cover.

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