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Old 03-17-2006, 04:26 PM   #1
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The critics are hailing this film as "the first best film of 06". So what did you think about it?

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Im going to see it tonight at the 10pm showing,I'll post my review up then.


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Old 03-17-2006, 04:26 PM   #2
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Old 03-17-2006, 04:28 PM   #3
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Yea,but I didnt want the fan boys getting involved, Since this is possibly the "best film of 06" I wanted to know what the average movie go'er thought about it.

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Old 03-17-2006, 09:50 PM   #4
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I would be interested in seeing people rate this, but I'm not going into the V forum because I know if I do, I'll see spoilers... its not inappropriate here, let it stay.

I'd like to know what people thought, without seeing detailed plot-breakdowns yet. Others may feel the same way.

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Old 03-17-2006, 09:55 PM   #5
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I found it to be an excellent film. I definitely recommend it and promise that in my opinion, you won't be disappointed at all.

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Old 03-17-2006, 09:58 PM   #6
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I hope the Box Office makes Alan Moore cry (being that, it makes money and he grows up and learns he shouldn't instantly discredit everything based on his work because he's ALAN MOORE)




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Old 03-17-2006, 10:17 PM   #8
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I hated it and thought is was the best damn movie I've seen in a while at the same time. Let me explain. You see, the movie was very well done. The acting was great, the story was intrigueing, the characters were well developed, and the overall theme of the movie rang true to the book. However, they took far too many liberties. Far more than were necesairy. The rest of my reveiw will be in spoiler tags.
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While the overall plot was the same, the difference was in the details. Evey was not a prostitute at the begining. Not a big deal, and that part didn't bother me. However, V did not take Evey to the shadow gallery after their first meeting. He let her go, and she returned to her job at the BNC, shich they added. Then, they had the V taking over the news station seen much earlyer than in the comic. That bothered me a bit, but what bothered me the most was how the handeled the scene. They butchered V's speech. Gone was the theatricality of him playing the part of God, having a meeting with humanity in his office to tell humanity that they were to be fired from the corperation that is life do to the polotical and social disasters over the course of human history. The speech in it's place, while very well written, was still quite inferior. And unnecesairy. The origional speech was perfect the way it was, and there was no reason to alter it that I can see. Many other changes were made aswell. Rose, the wife of the fingerman V killed who V manipulated into becoming the Chancelor's assasin, was gone. I personally found the way the Chancelor was killed in the comic to be far better than the way he was killed in the movie. The also completely omited the bits told from the Chancelor's perspective. While not a necesairy peice of the story, they gave a good deal of insite into the psychology of a fascist dictator and the inherent madness of one. If it had remained, it would have given an extra layer of depth to the film and would have made the Chancelor more than a two dimensional villain. The fight scene at the end of the film, while very well done, was not in the comic and was quite unnecesairy. V was killed by Finch in the comic book, and while the scene was not as exiting, it was just as deep and immotionally gripping, if not moreso. Also, they severaly cut short Finch's visit to Larkhill. In the comic, Finch went there and took some LSD, to try to understand V's obviously warped psyche. What followed was a rather bad trip on Finch's part that gave some insight into the mind of a person who's in fear of his government, and what they'll do to survive, even if that involves completely ignoring their personal moral code. In the movie, however, the trip was completely omited. They also changed the reason that England went fascist. Instead of a result of the chaos that insued due to a war between the world's super powers, it was changed to a comsperacy by the part itself to create chaos. Most of the changes, to me, seemed completely unnecesairy, and I wonder why they chose to do them in the first place. The part that they kept completely the same (with the exceptions of one or two lines) was the scene where Evey was in the jail cell, eading the letter from the woman in room four. That was one of my favorite parts of the book, so I was glad to see they kept it.
All in all, it was a great film. However, if they had been closer to the book, it would have been extraordinary.


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I don't see ANY reason not to make most of those changes, though. The God speech was awesome. And I can see how that bothers you, doesn't make any difference to me, the plot went just as smoothly. The LSD thing was just a little off. I mean, honestly, if I wanted to be in the head of a crazy man, I'd read his file and imagine. Taking a halucinagen in a strange place and telling no one where I went is just dumb. It worked in the book, wouldn't have fit the film. The action scene at the end was necessary to make a movie, because it needs to pander to an audience. It was a good scene, and didn't cheapen V in the least, so I can't complain.

But the change of the way the regime came to power, is in my opinion, TOTALLY necessary.

V was written in the mid 80s, when if you asked someone on the street if they thought a nuclear war with Russia was gonna happen, they'd probably say "Yeah, and pretty ****ing soon." I mean, it was a serious daily concern.

We don't have that anymore, thank god. You don't go outside and seriously consider a nuclear holocaust.

HOWEVER, you do wonder about terrorists blowing up buildings, your Government turning on you, and the danger of a moron in office.

They basically made changes necessary to keep the thematic meaning of the story intact. If it DIDN'T hit so close to home, it would lose a LOT of value in my opinion.

Is it exactly as Moore wrote it? No. Do I think they could have done a better job? Doubtful. They kept the MEANING there, whether or not the events were changed.

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I saw this film and loved it! Its a tad to long sorta like King Kong but still an amazing film. Its deffinetly contreversial(spell?).

I recommend seeing this film, in the theaters.

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Old 03-17-2006, 11:50 PM   #11
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It was fantastic. Especially after seeing it a second time in IMAX. V's last stand in slow motion was worth the twenty five bucks I spent alone to see it twice.

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...the overall theme of the movie rang true to the book. However, they took far too many liberties. Far more than were necesairy. The rest of my reveiw will be in spoiler tags.
Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
While the overall plot was the same, the difference was in the details. Evey was not a prostitute at the begining. Not a big deal, and that part didn't bother me. However, V did not take Evey to the shadow gallery after their first meeting. He let her go, and she returned to her job at the BNC, shich they added. Then, they had the V taking over the news station seen much earlyer than in the comic. That bothered me a bit, but what bothered me the most was how the handeled the scene. They butchered V's speech. Gone was the theatricality of him playing the part of God, having a meeting with humanity in his office to tell humanity that they were to be fired from the corperation that is life do to the polotical and social disasters over the course of human history. The speech in it's place, while very well written, was still quite inferior. And unnecesairy. The origional speech was perfect the way it was, and there was no reason to alter it that I can see. Many other changes were made aswell. Rose, the wife of the fingerman V killed who V manipulated into becoming the Chancelor's assasin, was gone. I personally found the way the Chancelor was killed in the comic to be far better than the way he was killed in the movie. The also completely omited the bits told from the Chancelor's perspective. While not a necesairy peice of the story, they gave a good deal of insite into the psychology of a fascist dictator and the inherent madness of one. If it had remained, it would have given an extra layer of depth to the film and would have made the Chancelor more than a two dimensional villain. The fight scene at the end of the film, while very well done, was not in the comic and was quite unnecesairy. V was killed by Finch in the comic book, and while the scene was not as exiting, it was just as deep and immotionally gripping, if not moreso. Also, they severaly cut short Finch's visit to Larkhill. In the comic, Finch went there and took some LSD, to try to understand V's obviously warped psyche. What followed was a rather bad trip on Finch's part that gave some insight into the mind of a person who's in fear of his government, and what they'll do to survive, even if that involves completely ignoring their personal moral code. In the movie, however, the trip was completely omited. They also changed the reason that England went fascist. Instead of a result of the chaos that insued due to a war between the world's super powers, it was changed to a comsperacy by the part itself to create chaos. Most of the changes, to me, seemed completely unnecesairy, and I wonder why they chose to do them in the first place. The part that they kept completely the same (with the exceptions of one or two lines) was the scene where Evey was in the jail cell, eading the letter from the woman in room four. That was one of my favorite parts of the book, so I was glad to see they kept it.
All in all, it was a great film. However, if they had been closer to the book, it would have been extraordinary.
I agree with pretty much all of this. Furthermore...

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I do resent them changing Evey's standing in society, though. I can't quantify the change in significance to the story, but I know it's a cowardly change to make.

Something that bothered me greatly was the brevity of the concentration camp doctor's (I don't remember her name) journal exposition. I think it would have been good to explain that V was himself a botanist and wasn't just stealing seeds from an impound vault and planting the ones that would have pleased his fellow prisoner Valerie. He's a botanist and a chemist, and gained their trust by not hurting anyone, but just tending his garden. He deliberately created the explosion at the camp using materials he used in gardening. This stuff shouldn't have been left out.

They also shouldn't have left out V's heart-to-heart with Lady Justice, and shouldn't have omitted the fact that the government was guided by a central computer (the only love of the Chancellor's life), and V had tapped into it.

The most egregious liberties taken were these, and I wouldn't even consider excusing these failures or listening to the excuses of others (as if I ever do anyway):
*Changing the nature of the relationship between Evey and V
*Having V rethink his actions and character because of Evey's recriminations. I'm sorry, did anyone read the book and somehow think he wasn't an unrepentant, twisted anti-hero for which there is no place in society on a continuing basis?
*Not having V kidnap and torment the "Voice of England" guy
*Evey trying to warn the priest when she went undercover
*V not speaking the first line of "Sympathy for the Devil" when he first confronts the priest. I mean, for the love of God, the first song during the credits is by the Stones! What the hell?!



One more thing (directed at the poll, not any specific poster):
"Good,but a little to political." How is that an option in the poll? How is that even a valid criticism? This story is supposed to be political through and through. It is nothing, if not political. If you can't handle that unquestionable fact, stick to critiquing the meaningless, pretentious, weak pseudophilosophical eye candy that was "The Matrix" franchise (that is not a criticism of anyone who likes those movies, by the way... it certainly is a criticism of anyone who thinks they're "deep" or unique on a creative level, though). I knew from the second I heard who was producing this movie that it would fall short of the source material. This wasn't a pathetic joke like the movie 'League of Extraordinary Gentleman," but the failures mentioned earlier are damning enough to warrant harsh criticism from anyone who's actually read the book. Alan Moore hates anything he writes to be made into movies, but I can understand if he was rolling in his crypt right now (his "crypt" meaning his house, which from the accounts I've heard resembles a crypt... or at least the front door does...).

That said... what they did right, they did very well. I give it a C+. All in all, it was okay.


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A truely amazing film. I didn't mind the changes at all and the actors were superb. When there was action, I enjoyed it very much. The movie just worked and it was a treat to see. It was a powerful film and I give it 10/10.

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this movie was (enter a non-cliche word) stunning!

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this movie was (enter a non-cliche word) stunning!

hugo weaving = oscar!
It'll probably be forgotten by the academy for any such nods by the time oscar season comes aroudn next year, but hopefully with HISTORY OF VIOLENCE's nods in non-visual categories, the academy will be more willing to let comic based films into the game.

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Have yet to see it, UBER excited though!!

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Given the fact that the academy isn't exactly loving comic book movies and giving them nom. in the major categories , i doubt that weaving will even get nominated.

Which is a shame cause he rocks big time.

If our dreams would come true , here are the nom. which i'm sure the acedemy would've given v for vendetta ( * means i'm not so sure about these nom. )

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Saw V, It was good, Weaving did a great Job.

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Really? I'm hesitant about seeing it because it looks ridiculous. This better not be another napoleon dynomite where everyone says its good but it's really bad, but people keep telling each other its good because they think its cool to make people go see bad movies.

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Really? I'm hesitant about seeing it because it looks ridiculous. This better not be another napoleon dynomite where everyone says its good but it's really bad, but people keep telling each other its good because they think its cool to make people go see bad movies.
lol,what,lol.

No,this really is a good film,go see a matenee(spell?) price if you have to but deffinetly see it in the theaters.

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It's not really fair to have a poll that doesn't have a "it was bad" option. I've got a great feeling I won't be happy with this movie. Alot of changes made from the book.

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Really? I'm hesitant about seeing it because it looks ridiculous. This better not be another napoleon dynomite where everyone says its good but it's really bad, but people keep telling each other its good because they think its cool to make people go see bad movies.
I feel your pain Wesyeed. I haven't seen Vendetta yet, but plan on doing so...oh yeah and Napoleon Dynamite did suck major balls...

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The film was okay... The pacing is terrible and it feels somewaht drawn out but the film looks great and the acting is great. But the script was just weak in places and simply just didn't hit hard enough or keep me on the edge of my seat.

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