Why did they never use Zod for S:TAS

Ultimate_Superman · 04-07-2006, 01:37 PM

I was reading over the comics based off of the series and they introduced Zod in a great way and I am just wondering why they never used him.

War Lord · 04-07-2006, 01:40 PM

Isn't hindsight wonderful?

SsM · 04-07-2006, 01:46 PM

They used a character that was similar really similar to zod.... I forgot his name though...

Ultimate_Superman · 04-07-2006, 01:49 PM

Yea I know in the comic though they freed Zod and made him their leader then Zod turned on them and was about to kill them.

SsM · 04-07-2006, 01:53 PM

from WIKI: Zod was not featured in Superman: The Animated Series, although a similar Phantom Zone villain named Jax-Ur did, along with a new character called Mala, seemingly based on Faora/Ursa. In the accompanying Superman Adventures comic book, Zod was portrayed as an Argonian (like the animated Supergirl), who co-opted Jax-Ur and Mara as his lieutenants (essentially giving Jax-Ur the Non/Quex-Ul role). This character looks physically like the Terence Stamp version from Superman: The Movie and Superman II.

Jax-Ur appeared in Superman: The Animated Series, where he was voiced by Ron Perlman (who would later voice Slade on the Teen Titans animated series). Ironically, he was portrayed as closer to Zod; a military genius who had attempted to overthrow the Science Council. b

It would've been cool to have Zod in STAS and even JUSTICE LEAGUE/UNLIMITED maybe a guest role for stamp :P

Red · 04-07-2006, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony_Montana

I was reading over the comics based off of the series and they introduced Zod in a great way and I am just wondering why they never used him.

Bruce Timm and the gang were told that Superman had to be the last son of krypton, if you remember they changed Supergirls origin also...the reason they could use the other character if because they always planned for them to get killed off.

Ultimate_Superman · 04-07-2006, 02:29 PM

Oh okay but they changed Zod's as well but whatever.

Hush · 04-07-2006, 03:52 PM

Would have been cool to see. But I liked the Jax-Ur and Mala Characters. Im not gonna lie having a show down with the league and Zod would have been really cool. I think you could do alot with a Season Long Arc involving Zod.

Dr. Fate · 04-07-2006, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Red X

Bruce Timm and the gang were told that Superman had to be the last son of krypton, if you remember they changed Supergirls origin also...the reason they could use the other character if because they always planned for them to get killed off.

Yeah, but I also figured that it was legal reasons, like the Bat-Embargo or the Aquaman-Embargo.

SsM · 04-07-2006, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Fate

Yeah, but I also figured that it was legal reasons, like the Bat-Embargo or the Aquaman-Embargo.

I was thinking the same thing... But hes gunna be on SV now so...

TheGrayGhost · 04-07-2006, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Red X

Bruce Timm and the gang were told that Superman had to be the last son of krypton, if you remember they changed Supergirls origin also...the reason they could use the other character if because they always planned for them to get killed off.

Yeah, I remember hearing on that on one of his commentaries. It was for the best. It's more dramatic if Superman is the truly the last son of Krypton. Have they changed it in the comics? If they haven't, I highly suggest that they do. Not that they would listen to me, though.

Oh, and about Zod, isn't he some fruity villain from the Christopher Reeve's movies? I'm glad we didn't see him.

SsM · 04-07-2006, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGrayGhost

Oh, and about Zod, isn't he some fruity villain from the Christopher Reeve's movies? I'm glad we didn't see him.

Zod was a villain from the earlier superman comics that they used in the superman 2 movie but... he wasnt fruity at all :/

Dr. Fate · 04-07-2006, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SsM

Zod was a villain from the earlier superman comics that they used in the superman 2 movie but... he wasnt fruity at all :/

Aye. The movie Zod was a real villain, a man's villain. He was the epitome of anti-fruity.

Binker · 04-07-2006, 05:04 PM

Unless you forgotten, there was the Phantom Zone. And those villians came from that into the show.

I don't think thats the reason why they didn't use Zod. At least it was original still.

The Question · 04-07-2006, 05:14 PM

Well, Jax-Ur in S:TAS is essentially Zod with a different name. Zod's personality and M.O.

TheGrayGhost · 04-07-2006, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Fate

Aye. The movie Zod was a real villain, a man's villain. He was the epitome of anti-fruity.

Really? From what I remember about the movie, Zod was pretty fruity I guess I have to watch it again.

Hush · 04-07-2006, 08:35 PM

Zod from the Movie was freakin amazing!!!

SsM · 04-08-2006, 12:11 AM

Zod from the movie couldnt be any less fruity :P he was a man's kryptonian man :x

Warhammer · 04-08-2006, 10:19 AM

Yeah.
Zod was the best villain of the 4 Superman movies.

Maybe you watched a boot-leg copy?
He was a beast.

Dread · 04-08-2006, 01:16 PM

TV and film rules are tricky; perhaps General Zod never appeared on S:TAS because the characters were tied up with the film rights of SUPERMAN II? Even though DC "owns" certain characters, the rights to show them can still be effected if other companies have put them to print or screen beforehand. Hence all the issues with getting Capt. Marvel to appear on JLU, and why Blue Beetle was unable to appear.

As stated, Superman did face the "equalivent" to Zod in Jox-Ur and Mala, two Phantom Zone criminals (or "anarchists") from Krypton in 3 episodes of his own series. In their 3rd and final appearence, which was a good episode IMO, they were both seeming sucked into a black hole.

Their designs were a little "generic", but frankly I am disappointed that they haven't appeared in JUSTICE LEAGUE or JLU. As finding a worthy challenge for even 3-7 of the "core Leaguers" is very difficult, surely two people as powerful as Superman and as ambitious as Luthor could prove worthy foes; especially since Bizarro has turned into an absolute "jobber" with a glass jaw (and Luthor and Brainaic have become a bit overplayed). But, you never know; one can always hope for DTV's.

Ultimate_Superman · 04-10-2006, 08:13 AM

I understand all of that I was was just wondering why they used in in the S:TAS comics as like Jox-Ur and Mala leader (and they did it in such a good way) then not putting him on the show as well. But I guess its like asking why Supergirl can't be hurt by kryptonite in that series but on the show can.

Obi-Ron · 04-10-2006, 01:27 PM

"Superman Returns" is supposed to follow Superman 2, so maybe the powers that be are using Zod in that somehow.

SsM · 04-10-2006, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Obi-Ron

"Superman Returns" is supposed to follow Superman 2, so maybe the powers that be are using Zod in that somehow.

possible.. Maybe when SUperman TAS started production and was in production Zod's rights were tied up in the superman lives movie..

Morgoth · 04-10-2006, 01:47 PM

Woulda' been cool. I just picked up SM vol. 2 today I can't wait to watch it. I went for JL Vol 1 but Target didn't have it.

I'll get it soon.

SsM · 04-10-2006, 01:58 PM

vol 3 comes out in a month or so with jl season 2 I always get those packs on the first day

im a nerd that way

04-07-2006, 01:37 PM	#1
Ultimate_Superman Banned User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Earth One Posts: 12,000	Why did they never use Zod for S:TAS I was reading over the comics based off of the series and they introduced Zod in a great way and I am just wondering why they never used him.

04-07-2006, 01:40 PM	#2
War Lord Banned User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In the country that I hope for abright future. Posts: 30,667	Re: Why did they never use Zod for S:TAS Isn't hindsight wonderful?

04-07-2006, 01:49 PM	#4
Ultimate_Superman Banned User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Earth One Posts: 12,000	Re: Why did they never use Zod for S:TAS Yea I know in the comic though they freed Zod and made him their leader then Zod turned on them and was about to kill them.

04-07-2006, 02:29 PM	#7
Ultimate_Superman Banned User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Earth One Posts: 12,000	Re: Why did they never use Zod for S:TAS Oh okay but they changed Zod's as well but whatever.

04-07-2006, 05:04 PM	#14
Binker Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4,794	Re: Why did they never use Zod for S:TAS Unless you forgotten, there was the Phantom Zone. And those villians came from that into the show. I don't think thats the reason why they didn't use Zod. At least it was original still.

04-07-2006, 05:14 PM	#15
The Question Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hub City Posts: 36,015	Re: Why did they never use Zod for S:TAS Well, Jax-Ur in S:TAS is essentially Zod with a different name. Zod's personality and M.O. __________________ VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

04-08-2006, 10:19 AM	#19
Warhammer Half Monk, Half Hitman Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: B.P.R.D. Posts: 20,599	Re: Why did they never use Zod for S:TAS Yeah. Zod was the best villain of the 4 Superman movies. Maybe you watched a boot-leg copy? He was a beast. __________________

04-08-2006, 01:16 PM	#20
Dread TMNT 1984-2009 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Brooklyn, NY, US of A Posts: 21,589	Re: Why did they never use Zod for S:TAS TV and film rules are tricky; perhaps General Zod never appeared on S:TAS because the characters were tied up with the film rights of SUPERMAN II? Even though DC "owns" certain characters, the rights to show them can still be effected if other companies have put them to print or screen beforehand. Hence all the issues with getting Capt. Marvel to appear on JLU, and why Blue Beetle was unable to appear. As stated, Superman did face the "equalivent" to Zod in Jox-Ur and Mala, two Phantom Zone criminals (or "anarchists") from Krypton in 3 episodes of his own series. In their 3rd and final appearence, which was a good episode IMO, they were both seeming sucked into a black hole. Their designs were a little "generic", but frankly I am disappointed that they haven't appeared in JUSTICE LEAGUE or JLU. As finding a worthy challenge for even 3-7 of the "core Leaguers" is very difficult, surely two people as powerful as Superman and as ambitious as Luthor could prove worthy foes; especially since Bizarro has turned into an absolute "jobber" with a glass jaw (and Luthor and Brainaic have become a bit overplayed). But, you never know; one can always hope for DTV's.

04-10-2006, 08:13 AM	#21
Ultimate_Superman Banned User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Earth One Posts: 12,000	Re: Why did they never use Zod for S:TAS I understand all of that I was was just wondering why they used in in the S:TAS comics as like Jox-Ur and Mala leader (and they did it in such a good way) then not putting him on the show as well. But I guess its like asking why Supergirl can't be hurt by kryptonite in that series but on the show can.

04-10-2006, 01:27 PM	#22
Obi-Ron Deal with it Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Flying blind on a rocket cycle Posts: 11,755	Re: Why did they never use Zod for S:TAS "Superman Returns" is supposed to follow Superman 2, so maybe the powers that be are using Zod in that somehow. __________________ In Jameson's barber we trust

04-10-2006, 01:47 PM	#24
Morgoth Side-Kick Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The outskirts of Gotham City. Posts: 4,838	Re: Why did they never use Zod for S:TAS Woulda' been cool. I just picked up SM vol. 2 today I can't wait to watch it. I went for JL Vol 1 but Target didn't have it. I'll get it soon. __________________ Spider-Man, Spider-Man, does whatever a spider can.

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