How the new suit might be explained (speculation)

son of jorel · 04-12-2006, 07:10 PM

I know there has probably been threads on this already but heres my take

They will acknolwedge the new suit by either Ma Kent or the FOS changing his space suit (they are the same except for colour and no cape) into his new look suit as his others may have been destroyed when he decided the world no longer needed a Superman anymore.

Any thoughts?

gdw · 04-12-2006, 07:26 PM

See now, I really wouldn't have minded this, but from how they have the picture in the paper with the article from after he leaves, but before he returns and he is wearing the same suit.

Now I don't think that they really need to "explain" the "new suit" but i think that it would have been kinda interesting to see them actually portray it as a slightly updated suit that he wears when he returns, and thus being able to have a slightly different suit just in newspaper pictures that are just flashed, one that resembles Reeve's suit as a bit of another nod to the pseudo continuity thing.

son of jorel · 04-12-2006, 07:28 PM

Yeah i forgot about that pic

Naite22 · 04-12-2006, 07:34 PM

This pic is so awesome!

son of jorel · 04-12-2006, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Naite22

This pic is so awesome!

Sure is

Whack Arnolds · 04-12-2006, 07:50 PM

Why does it need to be explained? Just act as if this has been his suit the ENTIRE time...

Zakk Sabbath · 04-12-2006, 08:08 PM

Somebody brought up the idea of the shade of red changing with his moods (ala Superman III) I sorta liked that. I also had an idea about a scene near the end of the movie being a shirt-rip with the classic red. It's really no big deal though, I like the suit now that I'm used to it. I saw a pic of Dean Cain the other day and went "that S is a little large, isn't it?"

Trooper · 04-12-2006, 08:29 PM

edit rong pic

theogt · 04-12-2006, 09:19 PM

Why would this thread be locked?

SolidSnakeMGS · 04-12-2006, 09:44 PM

If they explain the different suit, then they'll need to explain the different looking Superman, Lois, Lex, etc. If they answer the one question, it brings up many more questions like a snowball effect.

They probably won't explain it the same as they don't explain different looking Bonds. The audience will understand mostly.

Superman79 · 04-12-2006, 10:20 PM

Wasn't there supposed to be some line about how "the suit was my fathers" or some such thing??

buggs0268 · 04-12-2006, 11:07 PM

No this suit is supposed to be the suit he has always worn, even in STM and SII. Aparently the S is supposed to save his life in this movie somehow. Urgggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!

"_____" · 04-12-2006, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Naite22

This pic is so awesome!

this suit and his new suit still to me, look like underarmor or nike dri fit clothing. so yeah im not a big fan of the new suit

\S/JcDc\S/ · 04-12-2006, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by buggs0268

No this suit is supposed to be the suit he has always worn, even in STM and SII. Aparently the S is supposed to save his life in this movie somehow. Urgggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!

You only left out 99% of the details... OF course that's because we don't know them yet.

ReporterKent · 04-13-2006, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Whack Arnolds

Why does it need to be explained? Just act as if this has been his suit the ENTIRE time...

Exactly. The idea that it is a mod of his space suit is cool and all, but him wearing it already just is natural.

hk_spyke · 04-13-2006, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by buggs0268

No this suit is supposed to be the suit he has always worn, even in STM and SII. Aparently the S is supposed to save his life in this movie somehow. Urgggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!

maybe when lex stabs him

Mentok · 04-13-2006, 12:35 AM

Lex stabs him in the back.

hk_spyke · 04-13-2006, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mentok

Lex stabs him in the back.

yeah that sounds like him

buggs0268 · 04-13-2006, 12:55 AM

And before anyone starts yelling at me, this is not meant to be an anti suit rant. I am just posting this information as historical information.

The guy who sculpted the body padding explained it to Sandy Collora why a lot of the changes, such as the reason for the high collar line is because they couldn't hide the padded suit with the low Collar line Superman has always had since 1942. And because Singer wanted a 3-D "S", that is why they had to make the shield so small or it would fold when he folded his hands. That is the only reason for that. They tried bigger and got nowhere. So it had nothing to do with it not looking liek a billboard on his chest. They could not get a 3-D Shield to work any bigger is all. Since the guy was sculpting the body padding, he was probably at every test with the thing and saw all that went on, and why the changes, as he probably had to make a few different padding sets himself to adjust to new changes in R&D. Collara came out with this in a blog on his website, even publically calling Singer a liar for saying there was no padded suit in the first USA Today article in his blof a week after the first pic and the article came out. Collora aparantly knows the guy who sculpted the suit faily well and had a conversation with him. Go to Collaras site and you can find the the blog on it that was posted a week after the suit was revealed.

ReporterKent · 04-13-2006, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mentok

Lex stabs him in the back.

He gets pregnant and has a kid without telling Superman too?

The Kid · 04-13-2006, 01:02 AM

Lol, the answers in superman 3 for why the suit changed. it's a mood-suit. duhhhh

Nightwing1977 · 04-13-2006, 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggs0268

No this suit is supposed to be the suit he has always worn, even in STM and SII.

Nah. Superman Returns won't really be a true sequel to those 2. Beside, a sequel or whatever don't mean the suit has to remain the same. Does "Batman Forever" & "Batman & Robin" ring a bell?

buggs0268 · 04-13-2006, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightwing1977

Nah. Superman Returns won't really be a true sequel to those 2. Beside, a sequel or whatever don't mean the suit has to remain the same. Does "Batman Forever" & "Batman & Robin" ring a bell?

Yeah but even Burton changed it from one suit to another suit in both of his Batman movies, and they are direct sequel. And not to start an arguement, but Batman does have a lot of suits in the comics, but Superman only has the one suit. So theoretcailly Batman could have a lot of suits and it be proper with the comics, but Superman only one, even thought he did have a few different suits in some graphics novels, the original canon is only the one suit.

We all basically know it is jsut a different production designer, or the director wanting one.

Mentok · 04-13-2006, 03:28 AM

Edit.

dark_b · 04-13-2006, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggs0268

Yeah but even Burton changed it from one suit to another suit in both of his Batman movies, and they are direct sequel. And not to start an arguement, but Batman does have a lot of suits in the comics, but Superman only has the one suit. So theoretcailly Batman could have a lot of suits and it be proper with the comics, but Superman only one, even thought he did have a few different suits in some graphics novels, the original canon is only the one suit.

We all basically know it is jsut a different production designer, or the director wanting one.

1. in BR he has a winter suit. so its not like he changed the designe.
2. batman returns is not a direct sequel

.

04-12-2006, 07:10 PM	#1
son of jorel Side-Kick Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Posts: 226	How the new suit might be explained (speculation) I know there has probably been threads on this already but heres my take They will acknolwedge the new suit by either Ma Kent or the FOS changing his space suit (they are the same except for colour and no cape) into his new look suit as his others may have been destroyed when he decided the world no longer needed a Superman anymore. Any thoughts? __________________ www.myspace.com/yullie

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gdw Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nowhere land, making all my Nowhere plans . . . Posts: 4,447	Re: How the new suit might be explained (speculation) See now, I really wouldn't have minded this, but from how they have the picture in the paper with the article from after he leaves, but before he returns and he is wearing the same suit. Now I don't think that they really need to "explain" the "new suit" but i think that it would have been kinda interesting to see them actually portray it as a slightly updated suit that he wears when he returns, and thus being able to have a slightly different suit just in newspaper pictures that are just flashed, one that resembles Reeve's suit as a bit of another nod to the pseudo continuity thing. __________________ You will never be forgoten Robert. Thanks Cconn, for the avvy. "Originally we wanted Bill Murray to play Batman." - Jon Peters.

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son of jorel Side-Kick Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Posts: 226	Re: How the new suit might be explained (speculation) Yeah i forgot about that pic __________________ www.myspace.com/yullie

04-12-2006, 07:34 PM	#4
Naite22 Side-Kick Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,961	Re: How the new suit might be explained (speculation) This pic is so awesome!

04-12-2006, 07:50 PM	#6
Whack Arnolds Banned User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,912	Re: How the new suit might be explained (speculation) Why does it need to be explained? Just act as if this has been his suit the ENTIRE time...

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Zakk Sabbath Side-Kick Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: US and A Posts: 59	Re: How the new suit might be explained (speculation) Somebody brought up the idea of the shade of red changing with his moods (ala Superman III) I sorta liked that. I also had an idea about a scene near the end of the movie being a shirt-rip with the classic red. It's really no big deal though, I like the suit now that I'm used to it. I saw a pic of Dean Cain the other day and went "that S is a little large, isn't it?"

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04-12-2006, 09:44 PM	#10
SolidSnakeMGS Banned User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spartanburg SC USA Posts: 5,589	Re: How the new suit might be explained (speculation) If they explain the different suit, then they'll need to explain the different looking Superman, Lois, Lex, etc. If they answer the one question, it brings up many more questions like a snowball effect. They probably won't explain it the same as they don't explain different looking Bonds. The audience will understand mostly.

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buggs0268 Banned User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,246	Re: How the new suit might be explained (speculation) No this suit is supposed to be the suit he has always worn, even in STM and SII. Aparently the S is supposed to save his life in this movie somehow. Urgggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mentok Side-Kick Join Date: May 2003 Location: MESO-F******-POTAMIA! Posts: 20,647	Re: How the new suit might be explained (speculation) Lex stabs him in the back. __________________ Long live THWIP[/color] [color=red]2000-2005*

04-13-2006, 12:55 AM	#19
buggs0268 Banned User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,246	Re: How the new suit might be explained (speculation) And before anyone starts yelling at me, this is not meant to be an anti suit rant. I am just posting this information as historical information. The guy who sculpted the body padding explained it to Sandy Collora why a lot of the changes, such as the reason for the high collar line is because they couldn't hide the padded suit with the low Collar line Superman has always had since 1942. And because Singer wanted a 3-D "S", that is why they had to make the shield so small or it would fold when he folded his hands. That is the only reason for that. They tried bigger and got nowhere. So it had nothing to do with it not looking liek a billboard on his chest. They could not get a 3-D Shield to work any bigger is all. Since the guy was sculpting the body padding, he was probably at every test with the thing and saw all that went on, and why the changes, as he probably had to make a few different padding sets himself to adjust to new changes in R&D. Collara came out with this in a blog on his website, even publically calling Singer a liar for saying there was no padded suit in the first USA Today article in his blof a week after the first pic and the article came out. Collora aparantly knows the guy who sculpted the suit faily well and had a conversation with him. Go to Collaras site and you can find the the blog on it that was posted a week after the suit was revealed. Last edited by buggs0268; 04-13-2006 at 03:02 AM.

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The Kid AMERICA FTW Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bronx Posts: 12,766	Re: How the new suit might be explained (speculation) Lol, the answers in superman 3 for why the suit changed. it's a mood-suit. duhhhh __________________ Superman Returns is better than the Dark Knight

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