It's kinda sad that Pee-Wee's Big Adventure has a better chase scene than B89

Catman · 04-14-2006, 05:21 AM

Everyone knows I love B89, so this isn't a bash thread. I always liked the chase scene in B89 and even the one in Batman Returns. But some people don't because it isn't very exciting and not much is going on. I think Tim Burton isn't really the one to blame and maybe he was just forced to settle with what he had.

If you watch Pee-Wee's Big Adventure you'll notice that Tim Burton did a really good job with the chase scene at the WB studio. Even though that scene was made for laughs it was still pretty good.

So, I think Burton can handle a good chase if he wanted to. What do you guys think?

theMan-Bat · 04-14-2006, 06:28 AM

Pee Wee's Big Adventure allowed Tim Burton the time and freedom to do a long chase scene. Pee Wee is basically a road movie all about Pee Wee and his missing bike. In the Batman movies he had more to fit into two hours. Pressure from Warner Brothers to have a certain amount of action scenes, alot more going on and he wanted to fit more into the batman movies that didn't allow a long chase scene.

El Payaso · 04-14-2006, 10:18 AM

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So, I think Burton can handle a good chase if he wanted to. What do you guys think?

I think Burton did a good chase scene.

JLBats · 04-14-2006, 10:55 AM

I love Burton's films as well, but most of his action to me was pretty stale. I think his films were better with dynamic, static shots.

DocLathropBrown · 04-14-2006, 11:11 AM

When your set is heavily confined, you see how good a chase scene you could make...! Pee-wee's Big Adventure takes place in the real world, so they could shoot in a real location, not someplace that was fabricated.

El Payaso · 04-14-2006, 11:14 AM

WB studios weren't fabricated?

DocLathropBrown · 04-14-2006, 12:13 PM

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WB studios weren't fabricated?

I mean it was a real area someplace, it wasn't shot on the real WB lot, but another studio that is always used in films to be studio lots, but still, it was a real location with plenty of space. It wasn't someplace like Gotham City, which was 100% fake.

El Payaso · 04-14-2006, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DocLathropBrown

I mean it was a real area someplace, it wasn't shot on the real WB lot, but another studio that is always used in films to be studio lots, but still, it was a real location with plenty of space. It wasn't someplace like Gotham City, which was 100% fake.

And Christopher Reeve didn't actualy fly, you know.

DocLathropBrown · 04-14-2006, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by El Payaso

And Christopher Reeve didn't actualy fly, you know.

I mean that the Gothams that were created were nowhere near as big as an actual location, you smartass. Thus, they were too restrictive to make a really dynamic chase.

El Payaso · 04-14-2006, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DocLathropBrown

I mean that the Gothams that were created were nowhere near as big as an actual location, you smartass. Thus, they were too restrictive to make a really dynamic chase.

Even so, they did.

JLBats · 04-14-2006, 04:15 PM

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Even so, they did.

Not really. To me it felt like a go-cart being let loose in a Costco.

The Chairman · 04-14-2006, 04:56 PM

I've never seen Pee-Wee's Big Adventure. Yeah, okay, I admit it.

And the B89 car chase rocked.

DocLathropBrown · 04-14-2006, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by El Payaso

Even so, they did.

I'm not saying I didn't like the chases, and I'm not saying that they weren't good. I was just making obvious the point that with more space, the chases could have been better. It would be nice if you didn't jump to conclusions and assume things.

Catman · 04-14-2006, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DocLathropBrown

I'm not saying I didn't like the chases, and I'm not saying that they weren't good. I was just making obvious the point that with more space, the chases could have been better. It would be nice if you didn't jump to conclusions and assume things.

I agree with what you're saying. Pee-Wee had a lot of space that B89 didn't. Although Burton did shoot some stuff on location. Like Wayne Manor and the scene in which Batman is taking Vicki to the batcave. Maybe they could have figured out a way to shoot that scene in the real streets.

Kevin Roegele · 04-15-2006, 07:34 AM

The problem is, the cars are going too damn slow.

Now, people have said, that's because Gotham is full of pedestrians.

LOL. Gotham is PART of the movie, the PESTRIANS are part of the movie. If it suits the movie better, get the pedestrians off the streets, as all the other Batman movies do, or have a chase scene where the are no pedestrians.

Catman · 04-15-2006, 05:42 PM

Burton explained on the DVD commentary that if the cars would have gone 100mph they would have been off the lot in seconds. Thats why they filmed that scene of Batman taking Vicki to the batcave at an outdoor location. So, they could show the speed of the vehicle.

Mr. Socko · 04-15-2006, 06:03 PM

I disagree...

HR-PUFF&STUFF · 04-15-2006, 06:10 PM

well i guess tim just has to go back and use CGI ala Lucas and make a longer chase sceen.

Mr. Socko · 04-15-2006, 06:12 PM

Lol great idea!

Anyone remember the Large Marge scene in Pee Wee's Big Adv? That was my favorite part

Catman · 04-16-2006, 09:24 PM

Yeah, that and the Tequilla scene were the best.

Mr. Socko · 04-16-2006, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by El Payaso

And Christopher Reeve didn't actualy fly, you know.

OMG WTF!?!?!?!?!?! You must be on some strong drugs. Everyone knows Chris did all the flying by himself.

El Payaso · 04-16-2006, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Socko

OMG WTF!?!?!?!?!?! You must be on some strong drugs. Everyone knows Chris did all the flying by himself.

Well there's a poor taste joke about one flying he actually did. But for respect to him i won't say it.

Kevin Roegele · 04-18-2006, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by El Payaso

Well there's a poor taste joke about one flying he actually did. But for respect to him i won't say it.

Good choice.

Lazlo Panaflex · 04-18-2006, 04:29 PM

Twisted Sister had a cameo on Pee Wee's Big Adventure, that's what was missing from B89.

Mr. Socko · 04-18-2006, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by El Payaso

Well there's a poor taste joke about one flying he actually did. But for respect to him i won't say it.

I went to the Superman board about a week ago and this guy said "Chris Reeve sucked". He was nearly flamed all the way to hell and back.

04-14-2006, 05:21 AM	#1
Catman Banned User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 29,055	It's kinda sad that Pee-Wee's Big Adventure has a better chase scene than B89 Everyone knows I love B89, so this isn't a bash thread. I always liked the chase scene in B89 and even the one in Batman Returns. But some people don't because it isn't very exciting and not much is going on. I think Tim Burton isn't really the one to blame and maybe he was just forced to settle with what he had. If you watch Pee-Wee's Big Adventure you'll notice that Tim Burton did a really good job with the chase scene at the WB studio. Even though that scene was made for laughs it was still pretty good. So, I think Burton can handle a good chase if he wanted to. What do you guys think?

04-14-2006, 06:28 AM	#2
theMan-Bat Nocturnal Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gotham Posts: 3,275	Re: It's kinda sad that Pee-Wee's Big Adventure has a better chase scene than B89 Pee Wee's Big Adventure allowed Tim Burton the time and freedom to do a long chase scene. Pee Wee is basically a road movie all about Pee Wee and his missing bike. In the Batman movies he had more to fit into two hours. Pressure from Warner Brothers to have a certain amount of action scenes, alot more going on and he wanted to fit more into the batman movies that didn't allow a long chase scene. __________________ Half-man, half-bat. KICK-ASS 2 In theaters June 28th. Breaking Bad Final 8 episodes on AMC starting August 11th. SIN CITY: A DAME TO KILL FOR In theaters October 4th.

04-14-2006, 10:55 AM	#4
JLBats The boney king of nowhere Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 21,956	Re: It's kinda sad that Pee-Wee's Big Adventure has a better chase scene than B89 I love Burton's films as well, but most of his action to me was pretty stale. I think his films were better with dynamic, static shots. __________________ [I am in here]

04-14-2006, 11:11 AM	#5
DocLathropBrown Side-Kick Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull Posts: 2,306	Re: It's kinda sad that Pee-Wee's Big Adventure has a better chase scene than B89 When your set is heavily confined, you see how good a chase scene you could make...! Pee-wee's Big Adventure takes place in the real world, so they could shoot in a real location, not someplace that was fabricated. __________________ This summer, the great adventure returns... Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull 05.22.08

04-14-2006, 11:14 AM	#6
El Payaso Banned User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Rubbing your rhubarb. Posts: 15,263	Re: It's kinda sad that Pee-Wee's Big Adventure has a better chase scene than B89 WB studios weren't fabricated?

04-14-2006, 04:56 PM	#12
The Chairman Pimps' Main Prophet Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Down in the Jackson Cage Posts: 18,822	Re: It's kinda sad that Pee-Wee's Big Adventure has a better chase scene than B89 I've never seen Pee-Wee's Big Adventure. Yeah, okay, I admit it. And the B89 car chase rocked. __________________ "The world better prepare, for when I'm a billionaire" - Bernie Madoff

04-15-2006, 07:34 AM	#15
Kevin Roegele Side-Kick Join Date: May 2000 Location: England Posts: 23,318	Re: It's kinda sad that Pee-Wee's Big Adventure has a better chase scene than B89 The problem is, the cars are going too damn slow. Now, people have said, that's because Gotham is full of pedestrians. LOL. Gotham is PART of the movie, the PESTRIANS are part of the movie. If it suits the movie better, get the pedestrians off the streets, as all the other Batman movies do, or have a chase scene where the are no pedestrians. __________________ Read Cobalt Blue's comic strip adventures online - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cobalt...68148599902345

04-15-2006, 05:42 PM	#16
Catman Banned User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 29,055	Re: It's kinda sad that Pee-Wee's Big Adventure has a better chase scene than B89 Burton explained on the DVD commentary that if the cars would have gone 100mph they would have been off the lot in seconds. Thats why they filmed that scene of Batman taking Vicki to the batcave at an outdoor location. So, they could show the speed of the vehicle.

04-15-2006, 06:03 PM	#17
Mr. Socko Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fleet Street Posts: 23,329	Re: It's kinda sad that Pee-Wee's Big Adventure has a better chase scene than B89 I disagree... __________________ "When a naked man is chasing a woman through an alley with a butcher's knife and a hard on, I figure he isn't out collecting for the Red Cross"- Harry Callahan

04-15-2006, 06:12 PM	#19
Mr. Socko Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fleet Street Posts: 23,329	Re: It's kinda sad that Pee-Wee's Big Adventure has a better chase scene than B89 Lol great idea! Anyone remember the Large Marge scene in Pee Wee's Big Adv? That was my favorite part __________________ "When a naked man is chasing a woman through an alley with a butcher's knife and a hard on, I figure he isn't out collecting for the Red Cross"- Harry Callahan

04-16-2006, 09:24 PM	#20
Catman Banned User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 29,055	Re: It's kinda sad that Pee-Wee's Big Adventure has a better chase scene than B89 Yeah, that and the Tequilla scene were the best.

04-18-2006, 04:29 PM	#24
Lazlo Panaflex Banned User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: sitting down Posts: 5,754	Re: It's kinda sad that Pee-Wee's Big Adventure has a better chase scene than B89 Twisted Sister had a cameo on Pee Wee's Big Adventure, that's what was missing from B89.

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