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Old 04-14-2006, 10:21 PM   #51
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now how about beast and angel, are they going to be called beast and angel??
I'm sure they will. Because Beast was on the original team, I think Storm or Xavier will refer to him as such without having to explain his name. Angel as well, I'm sure he won't have a "What should I call myself" scene, I think it'll be a pretty obvious connection as to why people call him that

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Old 04-14-2006, 10:29 PM   #52
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actually they've mentioned beast...

"When you cage the BEAST, the BEAST gets angry"

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Old 04-14-2006, 11:04 PM   #53
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They have to show the Phenoix Effect onscreen. They showed it in X2. They have to show it again this time to make the connection with the final scene of X2 for the unwashed masses (no, not us, the other unwashed masses). She has to emerge from the water somehow. We know from one of the TV spots that she doesn't simply walk on shore or get found lying on the shore by Cyclops. The TV spot shows the effect of her on the water with Cyclops standing on shore looking out. My guess is that she shoots straight up out of the water in full Phoenix Flame, then floats over to Cyclops onshore. Lord, I hope so...
Don't worry, we will see the Phoenix effect. Simon Kinberg confirmed it over at the Xverse boards

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Old 04-14-2006, 11:05 PM   #54
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It better be more than once.

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Old 04-14-2006, 11:06 PM   #55
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i guess we'll see it at the lake and at the climax (aka Final Battle)...

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Old 04-14-2006, 11:07 PM   #56
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I'm pretty sure she'll be referred to as Phoenix. The way Simon answers questions he constantly references her as Phoenix and all the media outlets have been referring to her that way as well.

I think it'll be Magneto that christians her that. And what better way to present her to the masses as some sort of Christ figure, a mutant that died and rose again, that to name her after the mythical bird that does just that.

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Old 04-14-2006, 11:10 PM   #57
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I'm pretty sure she'll be referred to as Phoenix. The way Simon answers questions he constantly references her as Phoenix and all the media outlets have been referring to her that way as well.

I think it'll be Magneto that christians her that. And what better way to present her to the masses as some sort of Christ figure, a mutant that died and rose again, that to name her after the mythical bird that does just that.
i surely would love if they treated her like Jesus nș2, you know, everybody praising her and all, and then she just fu*k them all up
i would enjoy if they treated her ressurection not as something common and usual, but as a major fact in the whole world, kinda impossible i know...

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Old 04-14-2006, 11:16 PM   #58
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well how many people actually know she died?

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Old 04-14-2006, 11:17 PM   #59
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i surely would love if they treated her like Jesus nș2, you know, everybody praising her and all, and then she just fu*k them all up
i would enjoy if they treated her ressurection not as something common and usual, but as a major fact in the whole world, kinda impossible i know...
I agree. Even if she didn't really "die" I think Magneto would capitalize on the perception that she did. So that's my pet theory on how Magneto uses Jean (other than the whole crazy powerful ****** batting for my team thing).

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Old 04-14-2006, 11:18 PM   #60
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well how many people actually know she died?
Internet can do wonders if someone know she's ressurected.

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Old 04-14-2006, 11:24 PM   #61
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I'm pretty sure she'll be referred to as Phoenix. The way Simon answers questions he constantly references her as Phoenix and all the media outlets have been referring to her that way as well.

I think it'll be Magneto that christians her that. And what better way to present her to the masses as some sort of Christ figure, a mutant that died and rose again, that to name her after the mythical bird that does just that.
Did you just make a Christianity reference while talking about a Jewish character who survived the Holocaust?

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I'm pretty sure she'll be referred to as Phoenix. The way Simon answers questions he constantly references her as Phoenix and all the media outlets have been referring to her that way as well.

I think it'll be Magneto that christians her that. And what better way to present her to the masses as some sort of Christ figure, a mutant that died and rose again, that to name her after the mythical bird that does just that.
Actually most of the promo material refers to her as Jean Grey, thats who she's billed as on the cast too. I'm hoping for some reference to the Phoenix, but it wont be too overt, I'm pretty sure of that.

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Did you just make a Christianity reference while talking about a Jewish character who survived the Holocaust?
Wow. Good catch. And on Good Friday too.

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Internet can do wonders if someone know she's ressurected.

Huh?I was talking about the other mutants in the movieverse.

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Did you just make a Christianity reference while talking about a Jewish character who survived the Holocaust?
he's talking about Jean I believe

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Old 04-14-2006, 11:32 PM   #66
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Huh?I was talking about the other mutants in the movieverse.
doesnt internet exist in the movieverse?
i can even picture Xavier sending an email calling Beast, Moira and all those peeps to her funeral...
oops i think he doesnt need e-mails to do this

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doesnt internet exist in the movieverse?
i can even picture Xavier sending an email calling Beast, Moira and all those peeps to her funeral...
oops i think he doesnt need e-mails to do this

I meant more specifically Magneto's new followers.They'd have to know she was dead to truly buy into the Christ-like influence you suggested.

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Old 04-14-2006, 11:39 PM   #68
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I meant more specifically Magneto's new followers.They'd have to know she was dead to truly buy into the Christ-like influence you suggested.
im pretty sure they believe Magneto whatever he says...
Heck even i would believe that guy whatever he told me. But i see whats your point, and sorry for understanding it wrong.

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