Variants

MEXBONE · 04-19-2006, 01:40 AM

I DECIDED TO POST THIS ON THE MARVEL THREAD CUZ I NEVER LIKED DC THAT **** HAS THE LAMEST SUPER HEROS ......OK SO JUST RECENTLY I STARTED 2 GET INTO COMICS AND SUCH , I HAVENT BAUGHT ANY SINCE I WAS LIKE 10 YEARS OLD .... SO NOW 10 YEARS LATER ALL THESE DIEFFRENT COVERS COME OUT FOR LIKE EVERY OTHER COMIC , SO MY QUESTION IS WHEN VIRANTS COME OUT ARE THEY SOLD @ THE TYPICAL COMIC BOOK PRICE OF LIKE $2.50-$3.99 AND THEN LATER RAISED TOO LIKE $30, OR DO THE RETAILERS JUST RAISE THE PRICE ?

Masut · 04-19-2006, 06:03 AM

Eww.

WOLVERINE25TH · 04-19-2006, 08:22 AM

I've found some retailers will sell them fer cover, but a lotta 'em jack up th' price as soon as they come in...despite th' cover price still bein' cheap. Which sucks, 'cause th' better covers are usually th' variants.

ampersand · 04-19-2006, 08:31 AM

This thread is astonishing.

Varient · 04-19-2006, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MEXBONE

I DECIDED TO POST THIS ON THE MARVEL THREAD CUZ I NEVER LIKED DC THAT **** HAS THE LAMEST SUPER HEROS ......OK SO JUST RECENTLY I STARTED 2 GET INTO COMICS AND SUCH , I HAVENT BAUGHT ANY SINCE I WAS LIKE 10 YEARS OLD .... SO NOW 10 YEARS LATER ALL THESE DIEFFRENT COVERS COME OUT FOR LIKE EVERY OTHER COMIC , SO MY QUESTION IS WHEN VIRANTS COME OUT ARE THEY SOLD @ THE TYPICAL COMIC BOOK PRICE OF LIKE $2.50-$3.99 AND THEN LATER RAISED TOO LIKE $30, OR DO THE RETAILERS JUST RAISE THE PRICE ?

Varients,....

As much as the market can take,....

Elijya · 04-19-2006, 08:52 AM

when varients (such as a 1:30 varient, not a 1:1 alternative cover) come out, retailers up the price immediately.

The theory goes like this: A comics company offers a deal that says that any retailer who orders X number of copies of a book gets a special varient of that comics. Let's just say that X=30. Now a comics store that normally orders 25 copies of a book, if they feel like it, can up their orders to 30 to get the varient. This helps the comics company out because now they've sold 5 more copies of that issue (multiplied by the thousand or so comic retailers in country). The comics store, while it may now be stuck with 5 extra copies of a book that may not sell, now has an extra copy of the book they can sell for $20-30, which more than recoups their cost on the extra 5 issues or so

(I heard someone complaining about this subject on another board who was angered that a comics retailer who normally orders 2 copies of a particular book would have to up it to 30 to get the varient, but no comics store is that stupid, and if they are, they shouldn't be in business anyway. If your store only manages to sell two copies of a book, and you up your order to 30 just for a $20 varient that's not gonna sell cause only two people buy the book regularly anyway, you deserve to lose the money)

Now, in theory, just taking the matter on those simple terms, there's nothing wrong with it, everybody makes out. Where it gets tricky is in the broader scope of things. It's an easy leap in logic to point out that if a customer is spending $30 on one issue that just came out, that's $30 he's NOT spending on other, less popular titles. It's a bit tricky, and a divisive issue.

DBM · 04-19-2006, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elijya

when varients (such as a 1:30 varient, not a 1:1 alternative cover) come out, retailers up the price immediately.

I'm always glad that my LCS doesn't do that. They just rack them like normal on the day they come out. Any varients left the next day get marked up. But on the day they're released the varients are cover price.

Elijya · 04-19-2006, 08:57 AM

when a retailer recieves a variant, they can choose whatever price to put on it. Sometimes, if a retailer is really cool, and let's say they order 30 copies of a book ANYWAY, so they've lost nothing to get the variant, they may give it to a loyal customer. But if a store specificly upped their order in order to recieve the variant, they're going to price it to recover the cost of the extra issues ordered in order to have recieved the variant that aren't going to sell. Most retailers know the threshhold from their customers, what price they need to put on it in order to get the book to move. This can be anywhere from $10-30 depending on the store. Some retailers also check ebay to see what the variant is selling for, and price it accordingly

UK_Stu · 04-19-2006, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBM

I'm always glad that my LCS doesn't do that. They just rack them like normal on the day they come out. Any varients left the next day get marked up. But on the day they're released the varients are cover price.

My store is the same, varients are just on the shelf and sold at a normal cover price.

MEXBONE · 04-19-2006, 10:38 AM

Thanks 4 All Your Help Guys

, I Guess I Should Just Ask The People @ The Comic Store I Have Been Goin To Lately About This 2 How They Handle This

Anubis · 04-19-2006, 10:53 AM

It's bad enough your a zombie, but must you capitalize every word as well?

DBM · 04-19-2006, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Anubis

It's bad enough your a zombie, but must you capitalize every word as well?

He's probably writing in all caps (like a big doof). The hype won't let you do that unless there is at least one lowercase letter. So when he tries to write in all caps, it automatically only allows the first letter of each word to be capitalized.

Darthphere · 04-19-2006, 11:48 AM

WOLVERINE25TH · 04-19-2006, 11:53 AM

Think we should ban anyone who says Marvel Zombie from th' Marvel boards.

Harlekin · 04-19-2006, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by WOLVERINE25TH

Think we should ban anyone who says Marvel Zombie from th' Marvel boards.

Why? This guy clearly is.

Darthphere · 04-19-2006, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WOLVERINE25TH

Think we should ban anyone who says Marvel Zombie from th' Marvel boards.

ampersand · 04-19-2006, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WOLVERINE25TH

Think we should ban anyone who says Marvel Zombie from th' Marvel boards.

I think we should ban anyone who types like Wolverine from the boards, regardless of whether they think they are Wolverine or not.

Anubis · 04-19-2006, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WOLVERINE25TH

Think we should ban anyone who says Marvel Zombie from th' Marvel boards.

Fine then, we'll call them Marvel fans who happen to be among the living impaired. but if people are gonna be banned for calling somebody a Zombie Bastard then you gotta ban the Wolverine wannbes as well. It's only fair.

WOLVERINE25TH · 04-19-2006, 01:17 PM

You only wish it'd be so simple to get ridda me. But face it, bunky, yer stuck with me.

Darthphere · 04-19-2006, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WOLVERINE25TH

You only wish it'd be so simple to get ridda me. But face it, bunky, yer stuck with me.

Then youre stuck with this.

04-19-2006, 01:40 AM	#1
MEXBONE Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: LAND OF THE HEARTLESS Posts: 138	Variants I DECIDED TO POST THIS ON THE MARVEL THREAD CUZ I NEVER LIKED DC THAT **** HAS THE LAMEST SUPER HEROS ......OK SO JUST RECENTLY I STARTED 2 GET INTO COMICS AND SUCH , I HAVENT BAUGHT ANY SINCE I WAS LIKE 10 YEARS OLD .... SO NOW 10 YEARS LATER ALL THESE DIEFFRENT COVERS COME OUT FOR LIKE EVERY OTHER COMIC , SO MY QUESTION IS WHEN VIRANTS COME OUT ARE THEY SOLD @ THE TYPICAL COMIC BOOK PRICE OF LIKE $2.50-$3.99 AND THEN LATER RAISED TOO LIKE $30, OR DO THE RETAILERS JUST RAISE THE PRICE ?

04-19-2006, 06:03 AM	#2
Masut Side-Kick Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 868	Re: Virants Eww. __________________

04-19-2006, 08:22 AM	#3
WOLVERINE25TH The Best There Is Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 8,448	Re: Virants I've found some retailers will sell them fer cover, but a lotta 'em jack up th' price as soon as they come in...despite th' cover price still bein' cheap. Which sucks, 'cause th' better covers are usually th' variants. __________________ Coming in August: WOLVERINE, PUNISHER & GHOST RIDER OFFICIAL MARVEL INDEX *NYGB TOURGUIDE: Serving all your Ghostbusters* location needs. (Returning Soon) NYGB COMICGUIDE: Your resource to Ghostbusters comics. (Returning Soon)**

04-19-2006, 08:31 AM	#4
ampersand Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Shadow Gallery Posts: 3,106	Re: Virants This thread is astonishing. __________________ Hey, come check out MY ART \V/

04-19-2006, 08:52 AM	#6
Elijya Side-Kick Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701-D Posts: 38,221	Re: Virants when varients (such as a 1:30 varient, not a 1:1 alternative cover) come out, retailers up the price immediately. The theory goes like this: A comics company offers a deal that says that any retailer who orders X number of copies of a book gets a special varient of that comics. Let's just say that X=30. Now a comics store that normally orders 25 copies of a book, if they feel like it, can up their orders to 30 to get the varient. This helps the comics company out because now they've sold 5 more copies of that issue (multiplied by the thousand or so comic retailers in country). The comics store, while it may now be stuck with 5 extra copies of a book that may not sell, now has an extra copy of the book they can sell for $20-30, which more than recoups their cost on the extra 5 issues or so (I heard someone complaining about this subject on another board who was angered that a comics retailer who normally orders 2 copies of a particular book would have to up it to 30 to get the varient, but no comics store is that stupid, and if they are, they shouldn't be in business anyway. If your store only manages to sell two copies of a book, and you up your order to 30 just for a $20 varient that's not gonna sell cause only two people buy the book regularly anyway, you deserve to lose the money) Now, in theory, just taking the matter on those simple terms, there's nothing wrong with it, everybody makes out. Where it gets tricky is in the broader scope of things. It's an easy leap in logic to point out that if a customer is spending $30 on one issue that just came out, that's $30 he's NOT spending on other, less popular titles. It's a bit tricky, and a divisive issue. __________________ Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing. "I left in love, in laughter, and in truth and wherever truth, love and laughter abide, I am there in spirit." - Bill Hicks

04-19-2006, 08:57 AM	#8
Elijya Side-Kick Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701-D Posts: 38,221	Re: Variants when a retailer recieves a variant, they can choose whatever price to put on it. Sometimes, if a retailer is really cool, and let's say they order 30 copies of a book ANYWAY, so they've lost nothing to get the variant, they may give it to a loyal customer. But if a store specificly upped their order in order to recieve the variant, they're going to price it to recover the cost of the extra issues ordered in order to have recieved the variant that aren't going to sell. Most retailers know the threshhold from their customers, what price they need to put on it in order to get the book to move. This can be anywhere from $10-30 depending on the store. Some retailers also check ebay to see what the variant is selling for, and price it accordingly __________________ Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing. "I left in love, in laughter, and in truth and wherever truth, love and laughter abide, I am there in spirit." - Bill Hicks

04-19-2006, 10:38 AM	#10
MEXBONE Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: LAND OF THE HEARTLESS Posts: 138	Re: Variants Thanks 4 All Your Help Guys , I Guess I Should Just Ask The People @ The Comic Store I Have Been Goin To Lately About This 2 How They Handle This

04-19-2006, 11:48 AM	#13
Darthphere Kneel before 'Drox! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Phantom Zone Posts: 81,985	Re: Variants __________________ "When I was in college, I was belittling the woman who later become my wife for not knowing who Boba Fett was, and she responded by asking me if I knew who the Prime Minister of Israel was. Surprisingly? Not Mon Mothma."-BKV

04-19-2006, 11:53 AM	#14
WOLVERINE25TH The Best There Is Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 8,448	Re: Variants Think we should ban anyone who says Marvel Zombie from th' Marvel boards. __________________ Coming in August: WOLVERINE, PUNISHER & GHOST RIDER OFFICIAL MARVEL INDEX *NYGB TOURGUIDE: Serving all your Ghostbusters* location needs. (Returning Soon) NYGB COMICGUIDE: Your resource to Ghostbusters comics. (Returning Soon)**

04-19-2006, 01:17 PM	#19
WOLVERINE25TH The Best There Is Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 8,448	Re: Variants You only wish it'd be so simple to get ridda me. But face it, bunky, yer stuck with me. __________________ Coming in August: WOLVERINE, PUNISHER & GHOST RIDER OFFICIAL MARVEL INDEX *NYGB TOURGUIDE: Serving all your Ghostbusters* location needs. (Returning Soon) NYGB COMICGUIDE: Your resource to Ghostbusters comics. (Returning Soon)**

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