Power Levels

The Question · 04-20-2006, 12:52 PM

Now, I'm fairly certain most people here are familiar with what power levels for the major DC heroes I prefer (I've certainly *****ed about it enough). But this is not about me. My question is, what power levels do you prefer? How strong do you like your Superman? How fast do you like your Flash? For the Justice League big seven, what's your prefered power levels?

Doc Destruction · 04-20-2006, 01:24 PM

Flash should be fastest.

Superman should be strongest, followed by WW.

I DON'T like MM having strength as close as those two, he has much cooler various other powers. I would like him at half their strength, maybe less.

GL's ring should be able to hold any of them, with a possible excpetion of Superman, but that fight would have to knock GL out and exhaust Supes.

Any tactical problems should immediately be pointed to Batman, and he should ever be the "smartest" of the bunch.

TheCorpulent1 · 04-20-2006, 01:38 PM

Superman
- Strongest and toughest of the bunch
- 3/4ths as fast as the Flash
- Heat vision can cut through/melt anything up to titanium
- Telescopic/microscopic vision good enough to see molecular structures
- Hearing good enough to hear everything around the world if he concentrates
- No goddamn cold breath

Wonder Woman
- Almost as strong as Superman
- Same speed as Superman
- Tough skin just shy of being bulletproof (otherwise her bracelets would be redundant)
- Literally unbreakable lasso
- Almost as good a fighter as Batman

Batman
- Normal human
- Best fighter of the bunch with only about half a dozen other people in the world better than he is
- Smartest of the bunch
- Lots of gadgets but nothing too crazy (i.e. no one-hit incapacitators for anyone other than normal people)

Flash
- Easily the fastest of the bunch, able to reach light speed easily and superluminal speeds if he pushes himself
- Able to steal and lend speed but only on whole bodies (no speeding up a person's left leg but not the right so they trip or anything that specific)
- Able to vibrate himself intangible, invisible, or through some other dimensions, no time travel without tech assistance

Green Lantern
- Normal human, physically
- Able to conjure up literally anything from the ring that he has a basic understanding of (the ring takes care of specifics)
- Able to phase through objects
- Able to fly at superluminal speeds, but reflexes remain at normal human level

Martian Manhunter
- Same strength level as Wonder Woman
- Almost as fast as Wonder Woman and Superman
- Able to shapeshift and elongate but not shrink or grow much
- Telepathy able to touch every mind on the planet simultaneously with some strain
- Martian Vision as powerful as Superman's heat vision

Aquaman
- About 3/4ths as strong as Superman, just under the Martian Manhunter and Wonder Woman
- Same durability as Wonder Woman
- Speed and reflexes 10 to 15 times faster than a normal human's
- Able to breathe underwater
- Stronger telepathy than J'onn on marine life (still tied to the Clear), telepathy about 1/4th as strong as J'onn's on everything else
- Waterbearer hand
----- Cancels out all magic with varying degrees of difficulty depending on how powerful the magic is (magic from Tempest would be instantaneous, magic from the Spectre would take much longer)
----- Heals any injury short of death in varying amounts of time depending on the extent of the injury
----- Boosts telepathy to aforementioned levels
----- Provides visions of the future sporadically
----- Shapeshifts and alters density
----- Keeps him hydrated out of water, so his abilities stay at optimum levels no matter how long he's out of water

I probably forgot stuff, but whatever.

Lackey · 04-20-2006, 01:44 PM

Rucka's Wonder Woman
Loeb and Kelly's Superman
Johns's Flash
Kelly's Martian Manhunter
Winick's GL
Brubaker's Batman

(all in all, I'd say Joe Kelly had a very good handle on all their power levels when he was the writer of JLA)

TheCorpulent1 · 04-20-2006, 01:58 PM

Except for that miscalculation with the Flash's speed in that country's evacuation...

Assassin · 04-20-2006, 02:03 PM

you make it sound like DBZ..power levels..

Lackey · 04-20-2006, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1

Except for that miscalculation with the Flash's speed in that country's evacuation...

that's why I put Johns's Flash instead of Kelly's

TheCorpulent1 · 04-20-2006, 02:09 PM

I'd have gone with Waid's, myself. Wally did more impressive stuff under Waid than he did under Johns, in my opinion.

The Leaguer · 04-20-2006, 02:14 PM

I like it when they have ridiculously high power levels.

Also, I want Batman to have laser eyes.

Lackey · 04-20-2006, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1

I'd have gone with Waid's, myself. Wally did more impressive stuff under Waid than he did under Johns, in my opinion.

well, I wasn't going for which writer did the most impressive stuff with the character necessarily (or else I'd have gone with Morrison's Batman), just which writer protrayed the best where their power levels/abilities should be.

TheCorpulent1 · 04-20-2006, 02:21 PM

Yeah, that's what I meant, too. I thought Waid handled Wally the best. Not as out there as Morrison/Millar's, not as underpowered as Johns'.

hippie_hunter · 04-20-2006, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Leaguer

I like it when they have ridiculously high power levels.

Also, I want Batman to have laser eyes.

The Batman · 04-20-2006, 02:27 PM

Superman

*Strongest hero bar none

*Hell, All Star level powerful, except remove the invulnerability to kryptonite and the added powers.

*Not as fast as Flash

Batman

*Peak Human strength

*Best Tactician in the DCU

*Best Detective in the DCU

*One of the top five fighters

*Overall, one of, if not the smartest DCU hero.

Wonder Woman

*Strongest woman in the DCU, tied with Captain Marvel for second strongest in the DCU

*Second to Batman in tactics and fighting

The Flash

*Fastest Man in the DCU. Can vibrate through walls, steal anyone's speed

Green Lantern

*Green Lantern ring is one of the most dangerous weapons in the universe

*Hal Jordan and Alan Scott are the only GL's who could possibly take Superman in a fight.

*If a GL is skilled enough, they can create kryptonite.

Lackey · 04-20-2006, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1

Yeah, that's what I meant, too. I thought Waid handled Wally the best. Not as out there as Morrison/Millar's, not as underpowered as Johns'.

what can I say? I like my Flash's underpowered and my homosexuals flaming

TheCorpulent1 · 04-20-2006, 02:32 PM

Big Winick fan too, huh?

The Leaguer · 04-20-2006, 02:32 PM

What? Winick doesn't underpower heroes.

The Batman · 04-20-2006, 02:33 PM

Top Five Martial Artists

1.Richard Dragon
2.Batman/Lady Shiva
3.Batgirl
4.Bronze Tiger
5.Connor Hawke

Strongest DCU heroes

1.Superman
2.Wonder Woman/Captain Marvel
3.Martian Manhunter
4.Lobo
5.Power Girl

The Leaguer · 04-20-2006, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batman

Top Five Martial Artists

1.Richard Dragon
2.Batman/Lady Shiva
3.Batgirl
4.Bronze Tiger
5.Connor Hawke

F*** that. Cassie 4 life!

The Batman · 04-20-2006, 02:37 PM

Geniuses

*Science Field: Atom, Lex Luthor, and Mr. Terrific

*Technology Field: Steel and Mr.Terrific

*Tactical Field: Batman

*Detective Field: Batman

*Overall: Batman or Mr.Terrific

The Batman · 04-20-2006, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Leaguer

F*** that. Cassie 4 life!

You could always make your own list.....

TheCorpulent1 · 04-20-2006, 02:38 PM

The top five (unpowered) martial artists for me would be:

1. Cassandra Cain/Lady Shiva
2. Bronze Tiger
3. Richard Dragon (the new one)/Conner Hawke
4. Batman
5. Black Canary (now that she's training so much)

The Leaguer · 04-20-2006, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batman

You could always make your own list.....

I would much rather correct other people's.

hippie_hunter · 04-20-2006, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batman

Top Five Martial Artists

1.Richard Dragon
2.Batman/Lady Shiva
3.Batgirl
4.Bronze Tiger
5.Connor Hawke

1. Batgirl (Cassandra Cain)/Jade Canary (Lady Shiva)
2. Bronze Tiger
3. Richard Dragon
4. Green Arrow (Connor Hawke)
5. Batman (Bruce Wayne)

Quote:

Strongest DCU heroes

Quote:

1.Superman
2.Wonder Woman/Captain Marvel
3.Martian Manhunter
4.Lobo
5.Power Girl

1. Zatanna/Superman (Clark Kent)
2. the Martian Manhunter (J'onn J'onzz)
3. Power Girl (Karen Starr)
4. Lobo
5. Firestorm (Jason Rusch)

The Batman · 04-20-2006, 02:40 PM

For a better idea of my prefered power levels:

All Star Superman
Morrison's Batman
Rucka's Wonder Woman
John's Flash
Pre Crisis Hal Jordan
JLU Martian Manhunter
Water Hand Aquaman

Varient · 04-20-2006, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1

Except for that miscalculation with the Flash's speed in that country's evacuation...

I liked that feat!

04-20-2006, 12:52 PM	#1
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04-20-2006, 01:24 PM	#2
Doc Destruction Geaux Saints! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 7,336	Re: Power Levels Flash should be fastest. Superman should be strongest, followed by WW. I DON'T like MM having strength as close as those two, he has much cooler various other powers. I would like him at half their strength, maybe less. GL's ring should be able to hold any of them, with a possible excpetion of Superman, but that fight would have to knock GL out and exhaust Supes. Any tactical problems should immediately be pointed to Batman, and he should ever be the "smartest" of the bunch. __________________ #1 fan of Marrow and Ambush Bug. I must be nuts. Intelligent comic readers do not hate change! We hate BAD CHANGE. Learn the difference. You wanna rock? Check out PKS!

04-20-2006, 01:38 PM	#3
TheCorpulent1 Gods of Movies SHH! Global Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 153,724	Re: Power Levels Superman - Strongest and toughest of the bunch - 3/4ths as fast as the Flash - Heat vision can cut through/melt anything up to titanium - Telescopic/microscopic vision good enough to see molecular structures - Hearing good enough to hear everything around the world if he concentrates - No goddamn cold breath Wonder Woman - Almost as strong as Superman - Same speed as Superman - Tough skin just shy of being bulletproof (otherwise her bracelets would be redundant) - Literally unbreakable lasso - Almost as good a fighter as Batman Batman - Normal human - Best fighter of the bunch with only about half a dozen other people in the world better than he is - Smartest of the bunch - Lots of gadgets but nothing too crazy (i.e. no one-hit incapacitators for anyone other than normal people) Flash - Easily the fastest of the bunch, able to reach light speed easily and superluminal speeds if he pushes himself - Able to steal and lend speed but only on whole bodies (no speeding up a person's left leg but not the right so they trip or anything that specific) - Able to vibrate himself intangible, invisible, or through some other dimensions, no time travel without tech assistance Green Lantern - Normal human, physically - Able to conjure up literally anything from the ring that he has a basic understanding of (the ring takes care of specifics) - Able to phase through objects - Able to fly at superluminal speeds, but reflexes remain at normal human level Martian Manhunter - Same strength level as Wonder Woman - Almost as fast as Wonder Woman and Superman - Able to shapeshift and elongate but not shrink or grow much - Telepathy able to touch every mind on the planet simultaneously with some strain - Martian Vision as powerful as Superman's heat vision Aquaman - About 3/4ths as strong as Superman, just under the Martian Manhunter and Wonder Woman - Same durability as Wonder Woman - Speed and reflexes 10 to 15 times faster than a normal human's - Able to breathe underwater - Stronger telepathy than J'onn on marine life (still tied to the Clear), telepathy about 1/4th as strong as J'onn's on everything else - Waterbearer hand ----- Cancels out all magic with varying degrees of difficulty depending on how powerful the magic is (magic from Tempest would be instantaneous, magic from the Spectre would take much longer) ----- Heals any injury short of death in varying amounts of time depending on the extent of the injury ----- Boosts telepathy to aforementioned levels ----- Provides visions of the future sporadically ----- Shapeshifts and alters density ----- Keeps him hydrated out of water, so his abilities stay at optimum levels no matter how long he's out of water I probably forgot stuff, but whatever. __________________ "She doesn't love me! Now I just need to get her to admit it and I win. Somehow that means I win!" - Mark, Peep Show Last edited by TheCorpulent1; 04-20-2006 at 01:42 PM.

04-20-2006, 01:44 PM	#4
Lackey Me Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 26,947	Re: Power Levels Rucka's Wonder Woman Loeb and Kelly's Superman Johns's Flash Kelly's Martian Manhunter Winick's GL Brubaker's Batman (all in all, I'd say Joe Kelly had a very good handle on all their power levels when he was the writer of JLA) Last edited by Lackey; 04-20-2006 at 01:47 PM.

04-20-2006, 01:58 PM	#5
TheCorpulent1 Gods of Movies SHH! Global Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 153,724	Re: Power Levels Except for that miscalculation with the Flash's speed in that country's evacuation... __________________ "She doesn't love me! Now I just need to get her to admit it and I win. Somehow that means I win!" - Mark, Peep Show

04-20-2006, 02:03 PM	#6
Assassin Detroit's Reckoning Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Detroit Posts: 18,942	Re: Power Levels you make it sound like DBZ..power levels.. __________________ Theatricality and deception are powerful agents against the un-initiated, but we are initiated, aren't we Bruce?

04-20-2006, 02:09 PM	#8
TheCorpulent1 Gods of Movies SHH! Global Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 153,724	Re: Power Levels I'd have gone with Waid's, myself. Wally did more impressive stuff under Waid than he did under Johns, in my opinion. __________________ "She doesn't love me! Now I just need to get her to admit it and I win. Somehow that means I win!" - Mark, Peep Show

04-20-2006, 02:14 PM	#9
The Leaguer Banned User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The ruins of Coast City Posts: 14,036	Re: Power Levels I like it when they have ridiculously high power levels. Also, I want Batman to have laser eyes.

04-20-2006, 02:21 PM	#11
TheCorpulent1 Gods of Movies SHH! Global Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 153,724	Re: Power Levels Yeah, that's what I meant, too. I thought Waid handled Wally the best. Not as out there as Morrison/Millar's, not as underpowered as Johns'. __________________ "She doesn't love me! Now I just need to get her to admit it and I win. Somehow that means I win!" - Mark, Peep Show

04-20-2006, 02:32 PM	#15
TheCorpulent1 Gods of Movies SHH! Global Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 153,724	Re: Power Levels Big Winick fan too, huh? __________________ "She doesn't love me! Now I just need to get her to admit it and I win. Somehow that means I win!" - Mark, Peep Show

04-20-2006, 02:32 PM	#16
The Leaguer Banned User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The ruins of Coast City Posts: 14,036	Re: Power Levels What? Winick doesn't underpower heroes.

04-20-2006, 02:38 PM	#21
TheCorpulent1 Gods of Movies SHH! Global Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 153,724	Re: Power Levels The top five (unpowered) martial artists for me would be: 1. Cassandra Cain/Lady Shiva 2. Bronze Tiger 3. Richard Dragon (the new one)/Conner Hawke 4. Batman 5. Black Canary (now that she's training so much) __________________ "She doesn't love me! Now I just need to get her to admit it and I win. Somehow that means I win!" - Mark, Peep Show

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