*spoilers* FF #537 : DOOM & THE HAMMER

Malus · 04-20-2006, 12:59 PM

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I couldn't stand it; I called a friend in Atlanta who owns a comics shop.
I knew he would have received a "first look" copy yesterday.
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Okay...

No, Doom can't lift it.

Neither can Ben.

But we do see Don Blake "getting on a train" (?) near the conclusion.

My friend's store sounded busy, so I didn't ask any other details. He did, however, have this to say about the cover:
"That scene is not in the comic in any way."

Great. Now Marvel has resorted to flat-out misrepresentation on their covers. The generic covers have been bad enough, but now this makes two issues in a row with very intriguing cover images that are not in the book. I think that rather sucks.

Iron Maiden · 04-20-2006, 01:40 PM

Yeah, I remember when DC used to be the main culprit at using those misleading covers

I am not surprised at the stuff about the Hammer but at least Doom is finally back. And now Thor too, apparently.

Dragon · 04-20-2006, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Iron Maiden

Yeah, I remember when DC used to be the main culprit at using those misleading covers

But at least DC's fake covers were goofy fun. Marvel presented a serious dramatic scene that redefined two characters.

Dragon · 04-20-2006, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Malus

No, Doom can't lift it.

Neither can Ben.

Okay. For the moment, I'm good. Granted the fake covers are a bad sign, but for now, we'll see what else happens.

Although, once again, Doom should know he can't lift the hammer based on his attempt and failure to do so in Thor #183.

Ravin' Ray · 04-21-2006, 08:10 AM

Hmm, Quesada said at CBR or Newsarama that while many people e-mailed him liking the cover, many were also angry that it spoiled the story.

Malus · 04-21-2006, 10:50 AM

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Hmm, Quesada said at CBR or Newsarama that while many people e-mailed him liking the cover, many were also angry that it spoiled the story.

...and now they can be angry that it was a big, fat lie.
(Kinda like his claim that two of the FF will die in that one-shot next month.)
The "House of Ideas" has become the House of Dishonest Hype.

Kurosawa · 04-21-2006, 11:14 AM

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I couldn't stand it; I called a friend in Atlanta who owns a comics shop.
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Okay...

No, Doom can't lift it.

Neither can Ben.

But we do see Don Blake "getting on a train" (?) near the conclusion.

My friend's store sounded busy, so I didn't ask any other details. He did, however, have this to say about the cover:
"That scene is not in the comic in any way."

Great. Now Marvel has resorted to flat-out misrepresentation on their covers. The generic covers have been bad enough, but now this makes two issues in a row with very intriguing cover images that are not in the book. I think that rather sucks.

As much as misrepersentative covers might annoy me, something like Doom picking up the hammoer would bother me a lot more. Plus knowing that Don Blake is around and will hopefully pick up the hammer and become Thor-makes me very, very happy!

Odin's Lapdog · 04-21-2006, 11:16 AM

WHAT A ****ING COMPLETE LET DOWN

unbelievable.

cart1 · 04-22-2006, 06:21 PM

How was the rest of the story?

Iron Maiden · 04-23-2006, 11:22 PM

It won't be at the shops until Wednesay, April 26

TheSumOfGod · 04-24-2006, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dragon

Although, once again, Doom should know he can't lift the hammer based on his attempt and failure to do so in Thor #183.

He's stubborn like that.

TheSumOfGod · 04-24-2006, 03:03 PM

^Or maybe he just thought that since all of the Norse gods are now dead, the enchantment of Mjolnir had disappeared as well.

Malus · 04-24-2006, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSumOfGod

^Or maybe he just thought that since all of the Norse gods are now dead, the enchantment of Mjolnir had disappeared as well.

Or maybe he caught an advance look at the cover of #537 and just assumed he could lift it.
Probably didn't cross his mind that it could be a lie.

Once upon a time, cover images like this would be accompanied by blurbs like: "Not a hoax! Not a dream! Not an imaginary story!"
These days they'd have to add "Not a big, stinking lie!"

That'd probably cut into sales, though.

Dragon · 04-25-2006, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSumOfGod

^Or maybe he just thought that since all of the Norse gods are now dead, the enchantment of Mjolnir had disappeared as well.

But then, if the enchantment disappeared, then Mjolnir would have no value to him.

CaptainStacy · 04-26-2006, 04:07 PM

Excellent issue. (cover lies, regardless)

Apparently, when the Asgardians "died", Doom felt their power as "Ragnarok tore through Hell itself" (where Doom was enjoying a lengthy stay)..he even felt the "power of Thor", and thought that would be enough for him to wield Mjolner.

Heck, i don't blame him for trying one bit.

Best of all; Thor will soon be back in the Marvel U, kicking ass and taking names.

Kurosawa · 04-26-2006, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainStacy

Excellent issue. (cover lies, regardless)

Apparently, when the Asgardians "died", Doom felt their power as "Ragnarok tore through Hell itself" (where Doom was enjoying a lengthy stay)..he even felt the "power of Thor", and thought that would be enough for him to wield Mjolner.

Heck, i don't blame him for trying one bit.

Best of all; Thor will soon be back in the Marvel U, kicking ass and taking names.

Hells yeah.

Malus · 04-26-2006, 04:20 PM

Well, I guess we could consider the cover image to be a depiction of Doom's delusions, of what he was hoping would happen in this issue.
Still pretty lame, though. And such a nice cover.

I could have accepted Doom's being grazed by the hammer as it pierced the boundries of Hell as a sufficient "loophole" to enable him to temporarily wield the hammer. Passing through Hell momentarily could have "short-circuited" the enchantment perhaps, allowing an unworthy individual to wield it. At any rate, a Thor-powered Doom would have been really interesting for a few issues...
No one would be have been able to stand against him...until frail Don Blake walked up and took it from him...

I wasn't exactly blown away by the full-page panel of Ben & Doom duking it out. Was anyone? Looked a bit stiff to me.

Dragon · 04-30-2006, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainStacy

Excellent issue. (cover lies, regardless)

Apparently, when the Asgardians "died", Doom felt their power as "Ragnarok tore through Hell itself" (where Doom was enjoying a lengthy stay)..he even felt the "power of Thor", and thought that would be enough for him to wield Mjolner.

Heck, i don't blame him for trying one bit.

Best of all; Thor will soon be back in the Marvel U, kicking ass and taking names.

Agreed. I can't believe Straczynski pulled it off. Nice moment when Doom fails.
It'll be good to see Don Blake back.

Kool-Aid · 05-07-2006, 05:55 PM

I thought this was a good issue till the end.

There was alot of build up then...meh.

Doom's escape from hell was real cool.

04-20-2006, 01:40 PM	#2
Iron Maiden Side-Kick Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Doomstadt, Latveria Posts: 2,041	*Re: spoilers* FF #537 : DOOM & THE HAMMER** Yeah, I remember when DC used to be the main culprit at using those misleading covers I am not surprised at the stuff about the Hammer but at least Doom is finally back. And now Thor too, apparently. __________________ “Doom is deeply insulted. That Doom’s enemies have not the mettle to challenge him host to host, tooth to nail - - that they should aggrieve Doom by the sublimity of evanescent waifs. As economic and military options fail them, they resort to simple rudeness.”

04-21-2006, 11:16 AM	#8
Odin's Lapdog Side-Kick Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The tiny graveyard of mischief Posts: 32,665	*Re: spoilers* FF #537 : DOOM & THE HAMMER WHAT A **ING COMPLETE LET DOWN unbelievable. __________________ I touch the Fire and it Freezes me I look into it and it's Black why don't i feel, my Skin should crack and peel? I want the Fire back... If you want to PM me, please send it to November RAIN. Odin's Lapdog's pm box is full

04-22-2006, 06:21 PM	#9
cart1 Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 350	*Re: spoilers* FF #537 : DOOM & THE HAMMER** How was the rest of the story?

04-23-2006, 11:22 PM	#10
Iron Maiden Side-Kick Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Doomstadt, Latveria Posts: 2,041	*Re: spoilers* FF #537 : DOOM & THE HAMMER** It won't be at the shops until Wednesay, April 26 __________________ “Doom is deeply insulted. That Doom’s enemies have not the mettle to challenge him host to host, tooth to nail - - that they should aggrieve Doom by the sublimity of evanescent waifs. As economic and military options fail them, they resort to simple rudeness.”

04-24-2006, 03:03 PM	#12
TheSumOfGod Banned User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 10,934	*Re: spoilers* FF #537 : DOOM & THE HAMMER** ^Or maybe he just thought that since all of the Norse gods are now dead, the enchantment of Mjolnir had disappeared as well.

04-20-2006, 12:59 PM	#1
Malus Side-Kick Join Date: May 2005 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 4,211	spoilers FF #537 : DOOM & THE HAMMER * * * * * * SPOILER SPACE * * * * * * * * * * I couldn't stand it; I called a friend in Atlanta who owns a comics shop. I knew he would have received a "first look" copy yesterday. * * * * * Additional spoiler space...Don't want anybody ticked at me. * * * * * * * * Okay... No, Doom can't lift it. Neither can Ben. But we do see Don Blake "getting on a train" (?) near the conclusion. My friend's store sounded busy, so I didn't ask any other details. He did, however, have this to say about the cover: "That scene is not in the comic in any way." Great. Now Marvel has resorted to flat-out misrepresentation on their covers. The generic covers have been bad enough, but now this makes two issues in a row with very intriguing cover images that are not in the book. I think that rather sucks. __________________ http://profile.myspace.com/talesfromthebog Last edited by Malus; 04-20-2006 at 01:01 PM. Reason: spelling

04-21-2006, 08:10 AM	#5
Ravin' Ray Side-Kick Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 82	*Re: spoilers* FF #537 : DOOM & THE HAMMER** Hmm, Quesada said at CBR or Newsarama that while many people e-mailed him liking the cover, many were also angry that it spoiled the story.

04-26-2006, 04:07 PM	#15
CaptainStacy Gone...but not forgotten. Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: The Beautiful Planet Earth Posts: 20,026	*Re: spoilers* FF #537 : DOOM & THE HAMMER** Excellent issue. (cover lies, regardless) Apparently, when the Asgardians "died", Doom felt their power as "Ragnarok tore through Hell itself" (where Doom was enjoying a lengthy stay)..he even felt the "power of Thor", and thought that would be enough for him to wield Mjolner. Heck, i don't blame him for trying one bit. Best of all; Thor will soon be back in the Marvel U, kicking ass and taking names. __________________ Crazier than a bag of cats!

04-26-2006, 04:20 PM	#17
Malus Side-Kick Join Date: May 2005 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 4,211	*Re: spoilers* FF #537 : DOOM & THE HAMMER** Well, I guess we could consider the cover image to be a depiction of Doom's delusions, of what he was hoping would happen in this issue. Still pretty lame, though. And such a nice cover. I could have accepted Doom's being grazed by the hammer as it pierced the boundries of Hell as a sufficient "loophole" to enable him to temporarily wield the hammer. Passing through Hell momentarily could have "short-circuited" the enchantment perhaps, allowing an unworthy individual to wield it. At any rate, a Thor-powered Doom would have been really interesting for a few issues... No one would be have been able to stand against him...until frail Don Blake walked up and took it from him... I wasn't exactly blown away by the full-page panel of Ben & Doom duking it out. Was anyone? Looked a bit stiff to me. __________________ http://profile.myspace.com/talesfromthebog

05-07-2006, 05:55 PM	#19
Kool-Aid Side-Kick Join Date: May 2006 Location: BAAALLLLIN Posts: 1,458	*Re: spoilers* FF #537 : DOOM & THE HAMMER** I thought this was a good issue till the end. There was alot of build up then...meh. Doom's escape from hell was real cool.

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