How is Checkmate?

Binker · 04-26-2006, 06:04 PM

I couldn't get it today (if I can't get it tomorrow, then its next week) but I wanna know how was everyone's thoughts on it?

BrianWilly · 04-26-2006, 07:31 PM

I thought it was really good. Familiar characters in new roles, and a pretty interesting theme of checks and balances going throughout the issue.

It's got the same sort of tone of OMAC Project minus a few brightly-clad superheroes, so if you liked that you'll probably like this.

Assassin · 04-26-2006, 07:49 PM

i dont like the fact that they kill

GreatGuardsman! · 04-26-2006, 07:52 PM

It was all right, I enjoyed the issue when I bought it. I'll continue to buy the series an see if i'll still read it though...

BrianWilly · 04-26-2006, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Assassin

i dont like the fact that they kill

I don't see why; they're a government agency, not the JLA or something. You might as well get mad at the cops in Gotham Central for having to use guns. The two people that have been shown killing aren't even superheroes. And Alan Scott did say that he wanted minimal loss of life.

Assassin · 04-26-2006, 08:03 PM

fire slited some ones throat

BrianWilly · 04-26-2006, 08:08 PM

Ah, didn't see that.

Well, I still don't understand why it should be a big deal. Of course it's significant, but they're a legally-sanctioned government squad sent to take down a bunch of cultists and terrorists. The primary argument against superheroes killing is that it would be them taking the law into their own hands. These people aren't taking the law into their own hands because the law is on their side; in fact, they are upholding the law by doing what they're doing.

Assassin · 04-26-2006, 08:10 PM

dunno, just didnt like it

BrianWilly · 04-26-2006, 08:14 PM

Okay

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Assassin · 04-26-2006, 08:23 PM

dont dry hump me nikka

hippie_hunter · 04-26-2006, 08:28 PM

Great another jplaya

The Flash! · 04-26-2006, 08:55 PM

Isn't there an official thread for the book? Just asking...

hippie_hunter · 04-26-2006, 08:56 PM

I decided to not get this book. It just screams of a SHIELD rip off if you ask me.

GreatGuardsman! · 04-26-2006, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hippie_hunter

I decided to not get this book. It just screams of a SHIELD rip off if you ask me.

I agree, hippie hunter.

But I'll still check it out like I said.

BlackOpsTengu · 04-26-2006, 09:04 PM

I'll be picking up the TPB!

I like comic Black Ops and I missed series like Suicidie Squad and Checkmate. A welcome return.

Darthphere · 04-26-2006, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Assassin

dont dry hump me nikka

Only a hndful of guys including my self are allowed to mock Jplaya, apologize now.

GoldenAgeHero · 04-26-2006, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hippie_hunter

I decided to not get this book. It just screams of a SHIELD rip off if you ask me.

yeah but unlike shield it has its own book. but now that dc is doing it marvel will comeout with theirs.

Spectre722 · 04-26-2006, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Assassin

fire slited some ones throat

in case u didn't know fire used to be a spy working undercover in the U.S. before she joined the league.

Darthphere · 04-26-2006, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenAgeHero

yeah but unlike shield it has its own book. but now that dc is doing it marvel will comeout with theirs.

That be great.

Anubis · 04-26-2006, 10:06 PM

Only it would probally be a half assed effort.....

Harlekin · 04-27-2006, 02:02 AM

I was debating on whether to pick this up or not. I'm a big Count Vertigo fan, so how was he written?

Lackey · 04-27-2006, 04:11 AM

I thought it was excellent, this is Rucka's forte - espionage and the politics that controls it all.

Yes, it is similar to SHIELD, but I see nothing wrong with that when it's done this well. It's not like Marvel never borrows ideas from DC.

As for Fire, I get the feeling that she his having some inner conflict about the killing she has to do and that it will be brought up in the future.

drastic_quench · 04-27-2006, 12:07 PM

2/4 stars. Kicking off a book like this is a challenge. How can a writer organically work in the who's who? Turns out just give us a two page spread and tell us. Ah, it worked in the context of the story, I guess. It was good, not great. I'll gladly give it two more issues.

Assassin · 04-27-2006, 12:13 PM

it just had to have a guy in an eye patch didnt it...

Darthphere · 04-27-2006, 12:14 PM

Did it show the Sicilian Defense?

04-26-2006, 06:04 PM	#1
Binker Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4,794	How is Checkmate? I couldn't get it today (if I can't get it tomorrow, then its next week) but I wanna know how was everyone's thoughts on it?

04-26-2006, 07:31 PM	#2
BrianWilly Disciple of Whedon Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Church of Joss Posts: 13,498	Re: How is Checkmate? I thought it was really good. Familiar characters in new roles, and a pretty interesting theme of checks and balances going throughout the issue. It's got the same sort of tone of OMAC Project minus a few brightly-clad superheroes, so if you liked that you'll probably like this. __________________ I'll kick down the walls around me; they don't know how strong I am I'm not defined by boundaries; they could never understand, I'm so much more than status quo I am a Starship Ranger! I'm gonna do everything I can to always be a Starship Ranger; it's everything I am!

04-26-2006, 07:49 PM	#3
Assassin Detroit's Reckoning Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Detroit Posts: 18,942	Re: How is Checkmate? i dont like the fact that they kill __________________ Theatricality and deception are powerful agents against the un-initiated, but we are initiated, aren't we Bruce?

04-26-2006, 07:52 PM	#4
GreatGuardsman! Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 37	Re: How is Checkmate? It was all right, I enjoyed the issue when I bought it. I'll continue to buy the series an see if i'll still read it though...

04-26-2006, 08:03 PM	#6
Assassin Detroit's Reckoning Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Detroit Posts: 18,942	Re: How is Checkmate? fire slited some ones throat __________________ Theatricality and deception are powerful agents against the un-initiated, but we are initiated, aren't we Bruce?

04-26-2006, 08:08 PM	#7
BrianWilly Disciple of Whedon Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Church of Joss Posts: 13,498	Re: How is Checkmate? Ah, didn't see that. Well, I still don't understand why it should be a big deal. Of course it's significant, but they're a legally-sanctioned government squad sent to take down a bunch of cultists and terrorists. The primary argument against superheroes killing is that it would be them taking the law into their own hands. These people aren't taking the law into their own hands because the law is on their side; in fact, they are upholding the law by doing what they're doing. __________________ I'll kick down the walls around me; they don't know how strong I am I'm not defined by boundaries; they could never understand, I'm so much more than status quo I am a Starship Ranger! I'm gonna do everything I can to always be a Starship Ranger; it's everything I am!

04-26-2006, 08:10 PM	#8
Assassin Detroit's Reckoning Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Detroit Posts: 18,942	Re: How is Checkmate? dunno, just didnt like it __________________ Theatricality and deception are powerful agents against the un-initiated, but we are initiated, aren't we Bruce?

04-26-2006, 08:14 PM	#9
BrianWilly Disciple of Whedon Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Church of Joss Posts: 13,498	Re: How is Checkmate? Okay. __________________ I'll kick down the walls around me; they don't know how strong I am I'm not defined by boundaries; they could never understand, I'm so much more than status quo I am a Starship Ranger! I'm gonna do everything I can to always be a Starship Ranger; it's everything I am!

04-26-2006, 08:23 PM	#10
Assassin Detroit's Reckoning Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Detroit Posts: 18,942	Re: How is Checkmate? dont dry hump me nikka __________________ Theatricality and deception are powerful agents against the un-initiated, but we are initiated, aren't we Bruce?

04-26-2006, 08:28 PM	#11
hippie_hunter The King is Back! SHH! Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Titanium Groceries Posts: 49,856	Re: How is Checkmate? Great another jplaya __________________ Titanium Groceries!!!

04-26-2006, 08:55 PM	#12
The Flash! Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Keystone City Posts: 871	Re: How is Checkmate? Isn't there an official thread for the book? Just asking... __________________ Do you want to see a magic trick? Just dont blink. -The Flash FASTEST MAN ALIVE! Viva Le zer00!!!

04-26-2006, 08:56 PM	#13
hippie_hunter The King is Back! SHH! Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Titanium Groceries Posts: 49,856	Re: How is Checkmate? I decided to not get this book. It just screams of a SHIELD rip off if you ask me. __________________ Titanium Groceries!!!

04-26-2006, 09:04 PM	#15
BlackOpsTengu Side-Kick Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 366	Re: How is Checkmate? I'll be picking up the TPB! I like comic Black Ops and I missed series like Suicidie Squad and Checkmate. A welcome return.

04-27-2006, 02:02 AM	#21
Harlekin Business Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 20,592	Re: How is Checkmate? I was debating on whether to pick this up or not. I'm a big Count Vertigo fan, so how was he written?

04-27-2006, 04:11 AM	#22
Lackey Me Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 26,947	Re: How is Checkmate? I thought it was excellent, this is Rucka's forte - espionage and the politics that controls it all. Yes, it is similar to SHIELD, but I see nothing wrong with that when it's done this well. It's not like Marvel never borrows ideas from DC. As for Fire, I get the feeling that she his having some inner conflict about the killing she has to do and that it will be brought up in the future.

04-27-2006, 12:07 PM	#23
drastic_quench Side-Kick Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,271	Re: How is Checkmate? 2/4 stars. Kicking off a book like this is a challenge. How can a writer organically work in the who's who? Turns out just give us a two page spread and tell us. Ah, it worked in the context of the story, I guess. It was good, not great. I'll gladly give it two more issues. __________________ __________________________________________________ Superman or Green Lantern ain't got a-nothin' on me

04-27-2006, 12:13 PM	#24
Assassin Detroit's Reckoning Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Detroit Posts: 18,942	Re: How is Checkmate? it just had to have a guy in an eye patch didnt it... __________________ Theatricality and deception are powerful agents against the un-initiated, but we are initiated, aren't we Bruce?

04-27-2006, 12:14 PM	#25
Darthphere Kneel before 'Drox! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Phantom Zone Posts: 81,971	Re: How is Checkmate? Did it show the Sicilian Defense? __________________ "When I was in college, I was belittling the woman who later become my wife for not knowing who Boba Fett was, and she responded by asking me if I knew who the Prime Minister of Israel was. Surprisingly? Not Mon Mothma."-BKV

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