Dark City

Kevin Roegele · 05-01-2006, 04:20 PM

Just seen this hugely influential sci-fi mindjob for the first time, and whoa....what a film. After seeing it, The Matrix is atleast 20% less impressive. I thought I knew a lot about the influences of the Wachowski movie, but Dark City is clearly number one now.

Alex Proyas is surely the man to take over the Batman franchise when Nolan eventually leaves.

KingOfDreams · 05-01-2006, 04:35 PM

very good movie

huskerwebhead · 05-01-2006, 04:35 PM

Highly underrated movie. One of my favorites. I'm always amazed at how many people have never heard of this show.

blind_fury · 05-01-2006, 04:38 PM

Dark City is a poor man's Truman Show.

huskerwebhead · 05-01-2006, 04:40 PM

Um....no.

blind_fury · 05-01-2006, 04:44 PM

Um...yes.

The Truman Show covers all the same territory minus the pointless goth.

Truman Show > Dark City

KingOfDreams · 05-01-2006, 04:50 PM

It's not pointless goth. It's art. At it's core, the look of Dark City is in line with German expressionist films like The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari.

huskerwebhead · 05-01-2006, 04:53 PM

The only thing that Truman Show and Dark City have in common is that the city in which they live in are fabricated cities.

-DC was a fabricated city to house humans for the purposes of running experiments on them. Truman was for a TV show so everyone could watch Truman.

-In DC only the Strangers know what the city really is...a few humans like John Murdock suspect...but don't know for sure. In Truman, Everyone but Truman knows.

blind_fury · 05-01-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by huskerwebhead

The only thing that Truman Show and Dark City have in common is that the city in which they live in are fabricated cities.

-DC was a fabricated city to house humans for the purposes of running experiments on them. Truman was for a TV show so everyone could watch Truman.

-In DC only the Strangers know what the city really is...a few humans like John Murdock suspect...but don't know for sure. In Truman, Everyone but Truman knows.

"The strangers" in Dark City play the same role as the "actors" in the Truman Show. Is there any meaningful messages in Dark City that can't be found in the Truman Show?

patrickbateman · 05-01-2006, 05:48 PM

love the shell beach ending i wish that happen to me in real life

Dr. Fate · 05-01-2006, 07:22 PM

Dark City was uber cool. Too bad it wasn't a run away money making block buster. But that's what cult followings are for I guess.

MaskedManJRK · 05-01-2006, 07:29 PM

Yeah, it kicks major ass.

Dr. Fate · 05-01-2006, 07:34 PM

The trailers for the first X-men movie used Dark City music you know.

cerealkiller182 · 05-01-2006, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by blind_fury

"The strangers" in Dark City play the same role as the "actors" in the Truman Show. Is there any meaningful messages in Dark City that can't be found in the Truman Show?

Yes,

DC: True love cannot be faked.
The movie is about a group of aliens/demons studying the human nature. They took all these people and impanted memories and changed their surroundings to see how they react. They were looking for consistencies within human nature. They found it. The true love between Sewell and Connelly went beyond what the strangers could control. The fact that Sewell could act like the strangers was just for the story but you see this meaning come to full length when they meet at the end like the first time and ultimately fall in love (assumingly)

TTS: the human mind is adventurous
DC and TS are built arround the same subject: Human Nature. In TS, a boy raised in a controlled enviornment is tested to see how he would react to the perfect society. He hated it, which is strange since its perfect. It proves that the human mind is meant to learn and experience and emote the bad as well as the good. You might think it means true love cannot be faked since his wife is an actor and he loves the girl on the outside, but true love is never truly questioned. Instead life in general is questioned.

In reality they are two different theories for the same subject.

btw. Dark City was super cool. I was a little unimpressed with the ending. I found it to be acutally sad that they were stuck on this wierd space station thing.

Morg · 05-01-2006, 08:18 PM

Love that movie and watch it on dvd now and then

블라스 · 05-01-2006, 08:31 PM

I read somewhere that a director's cut is being prepared.

RockSP · 05-01-2006, 08:41 PM

I want the guy who directed Dark City to direct a "Nevermen" movie. Either him or Terry Gilliam...

cryptic name · 05-01-2006, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blind_fury

Um...yes.

The Truman Show covers all the same territory minus the pointless goth.

Truman Show > Dark City

do you want to sit there and list every movie that takes this same basic premise? what a ridiculous and wasteful argument. the movies are so different in terms of purpose and presentation that any comparison like that is just pointless...but...
Dark City>>Truman Show.

KenK · 05-01-2006, 08:50 PM

Interesting little fact from IMDB: Sets from Dark City were later used in the Matrix.

KALEL114 · 05-01-2006, 10:13 PM

I think I named this as my favorite movie that bombed in another thread. Every time it's on I have to watch it. Great movie.

cerealkiller182 · 05-01-2006, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Gammy v.2

I read somewhere that a director's cut is being prepared.

I thought they already did?

Mass Nerder · 05-01-2006, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blind_fury

Um...yes.

The Truman Show covers all the same territory minus the pointless goth.

Truman Show > Dark City

I love both movies but you must DIIIIIEEEEE!!!!!!!!

*makes hardcore punk screaming noise*

Mass Nerder · 05-01-2006, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cerealkiller182

I thought they already did?

I never heard anything about that but I would LOVE to see a director's cut. The only problem I had with the movie was the begining of the film was a bit to fast. Like the paseing (sp?) needed to slow down but some would say it's there for a reason but I just don't see why. The commentary one of the writers said the same thing though, that he wished they would have slowed down the begining.

Kevin Roegele · 05-02-2006, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Fate

The trailers for the first X-men movie used Dark City music you know.

Yeah, awesome music. Really exciting.

Eddie Dean · 05-02-2006, 06:42 AM

I love this film.

05-01-2006, 04:20 PM	#1
Kevin Roegele Side-Kick Join Date: May 2000 Location: England Posts: 23,318	Dark City Just seen this hugely influential sci-fi mindjob for the first time, and whoa....what a film. After seeing it, The Matrix is atleast 20% less impressive. I thought I knew a lot about the influences of the Wachowski movie, but Dark City is clearly number one now. Alex Proyas is surely the man to take over the Batman franchise when Nolan eventually leaves. __________________ Read Cobalt Blue's comic strip adventures online - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cobalt...68148599902345

05-01-2006, 04:35 PM	#2
KingOfDreams Side-Kick Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Austin/San Marcos Posts: 9,567	Re: Dark City very good movie __________________ SHH! Democratic Coalition

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huskerwebhead Side-Kick Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 4,119	Re: Dark City Highly underrated movie. One of my favorites. I'm always amazed at how many people have never heard of this show. __________________ I'm an equal opportunity hater. Best VoIP Providers Lost and Found Pets

05-01-2006, 04:38 PM	#4
blind_fury Banned User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: second renaissance Posts: 13,585	Re: Dark City Dark City is a poor man's Truman Show.

05-01-2006, 04:40 PM	#5
huskerwebhead Side-Kick Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 4,119	Re: Dark City Um....no. __________________ I'm an equal opportunity hater. Best VoIP Providers Lost and Found Pets

05-01-2006, 04:44 PM	#6
blind_fury Banned User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: second renaissance Posts: 13,585	Re: Dark City Um...yes. The Truman Show covers all the same territory minus the pointless goth. Truman Show > Dark City

05-01-2006, 04:50 PM	#7
KingOfDreams Side-Kick Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Austin/San Marcos Posts: 9,567	Re: Dark City It's not pointless goth. It's art. At it's core, the look of Dark City is in line with German expressionist films like The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari. __________________ SHH! Democratic Coalition

05-01-2006, 04:53 PM	#8
huskerwebhead Side-Kick Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 4,119	Re: Dark City The only thing that Truman Show and Dark City have in common is that the city in which they live in are fabricated cities. -DC was a fabricated city to house humans for the purposes of running experiments on them. Truman was for a TV show so everyone could watch Truman. -In DC only the Strangers know what the city really is...a few humans like John Murdock suspect...but don't know for sure. In Truman, Everyone but Truman knows. __________________ I'm an equal opportunity hater. Best VoIP Providers Lost and Found Pets

05-01-2006, 05:48 PM	#10
patrickbateman Side-Kick Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pierce & Pierce 65 Wall St.New York, NY 10020 Posts: 4,352	Re: Dark City love the shell beach ending i wish that happen to me in real life __________________ "How come even in my fantasies everyone is a jerk?" Natalie Portman IS Selina Kyle.Proud member of the Portman Posse "Only ignoramuses spend their time posting on message boards." (My Mom)

05-01-2006, 07:22 PM	#11
Dr. Fate Banned User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Eternia Posts: 12,741	Re: Dark City Dark City was uber cool. Too bad it wasn't a run away money making block buster. But that's what cult followings are for I guess.

05-01-2006, 07:29 PM	#12
MaskedManJRK Side-Kick Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Avondale, AZ Posts: 9,197	Re: Dark City Yeah, it kicks major ass. __________________ MySpace \| Facebook \| Twitter \| LiveJournal \| Newsvine \| deviantART

05-01-2006, 07:34 PM	#13
Dr. Fate Banned User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Eternia Posts: 12,741	Re: Dark City The trailers for the first X-men movie used Dark City music you know.

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Morg Hayden addict SHH! Global Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hades Posts: 58,639	Re: Dark City Love that movie and watch it on dvd now and then __________________ HYPE RULES Questions on Avatars, Sigs, and more Need a avatar? Ask here

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블라스 Side-Kick Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 35,193	Re: Dark City I read somewhere that a director's cut is being prepared. __________________ XBL Gamertag: BlasLee PSN Gamertag:BlasLee

05-01-2006, 08:41 PM	#17
RockSP ... Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 9,599	Re: Dark City I want the guy who directed Dark City to direct a "Nevermen" movie. Either him or Terry Gilliam... __________________ It's not Marvel and DC's place to create our stories. We create our stories. --Dwayne McDuffie

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KenK Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The Tenth Circle of Hell(aka Oxon Hill, MD) Posts: 10,300	Re: Dark City Interesting little fact from IMDB: Sets from Dark City were later used in the Matrix.

05-01-2006, 10:13 PM	#20
KALEL114 Usuario Baneado SHH! Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Here Posts: 14,654	Re: Dark City I think I named this as my favorite movie that bombed in another thread. Every time it's on I have to watch it. Great movie. __________________ My apologies Lady Jackson, I am quite sincere. It was not in my wishes to provoke thy daughter's sadness, I apologised numerous times. - @ShakespeareSong 100 IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII

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