Robin To Be Or Not To Be - Page 2

Two-Face · 05-14-2006, 02:53 PM

This batman7289 person I bet it is Spiderfreddie who else would start another Robin thread and knows there are too many Robin threads but posts new ones anyway.

Keyser Sushi · 05-14-2006, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AnimeJune

He's new - we can hardly expect Shakespeare out of someone with only 23 posts to his/her name.

Well, you can out of ME. I just joined the boards a week ago, but I'm not actually a person - I'm actually a roomful of overpaid monkeys on keyboards. Ingenius, really. *puffs on corncob pipe*

Do all canuck broads have such incredible personalities, or is it just you?

Katsuro · 05-15-2006, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by El Payaso

Everybody knows that this kind of franchises fall apart definitively after the third movie.

How many of these kinds of franchises have even made it past the third movie? But then I guess it depends on what you mean by "this kind of franchise" Comic book movies? Or action films in general. I can only think of 2 comic book franchises that made it to 4, and in most peoples opinions they fell apart well before the 4th.

I could see this new Batman franchise making it quite a while before running out of good storylines and villains. I see no reason to stop at 3 just because society seems to think every franchise has to come in threes.

El Payaso · 05-15-2006, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Katsuro

But then I guess it depends on what you mean by "this kind of franchise" Comic book movies?

No, road movies with Tom Hanks.

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Originally Posted by Katsuro

I can only think of 2 comic book franchises that made it to 4, and in most peoples opinions they fell apart well before the 4th.

Even worse.

블라스 · 05-15-2006, 08:46 AM

These Robin threads give me some really bad headaches.

Dark Knight88 · 05-15-2006, 09:54 AM

No Robin. Final Answer.

AnimeJune · 05-15-2006, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Cinemaman

Robin (and Schumacher) killed Batman franchise.

And I dont want him to come back to destroy everything what Nolan has done again.

NO F****ING ROBIAN!

It wasn't Robin - it was Chris O'Donnell. I'm not saying put Robin in a franchise, but I'm saying that practically any idea can be turned into a good movie in the hands of a talented director who cares about the material.

Nolan doesn't care for Robin, so hence Robin shouldn't be in his movies.
And yes, Keyser Sushi - all Canadian girls have great personalities, because the cold keeps us from flashing our goodies as often as your Yank ladies.

StorminNorman · 05-15-2006, 11:46 AM

Nolan doesnt not like Robin (he even has said that Dick Grayson does exist in his world) it is Bale who hates Robin (with a passion it seems).

AnimeJune · 05-15-2006, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by StorminNorman

Nolan doesnt not like Robin (he even has said that Dick Grayson does exist in his world) it is Bale who hates Robin (with a passion it seems).

Ah...by the way, StorminNorman - you're new custom title...I don't mean to be all narcissistic or self-involved or anything, but did that have anything to do with the "beaten with a frozen salmon" comment I made in the "Fresh Joker Idea" thread?

StorminNorman · 05-15-2006, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AnimeJune

Ah...by the way, StorminNorman - you're new custom title...I don't mean to be all narcissistic or self-involved or anything, but did that have anything to do with the "beaten with a frozen salmon" comment I made in the "Fresh Joker Idea" thread?

It did, sadly Salmon does not fit. I saw Bettany's expression in the picture I am now using for my avatar and that was the first thing that came to my mind.

Keyser Sushi · 05-15-2006, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AnimeJune

It wasn't Robin - it was Chris O'Donnell. I'm not saying put Robin in a franchise, but I'm saying that practically any idea can be turned into a good movie in the hands of a talented director who cares about the material.

Bingo.

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And yes, Keyser Sushi - all Canadian girls have great personalities, because the cold keeps us from flashing our goodies as often as your Yank ladies.

LOL! Then maybe I just haven't been looking far enough north before. Tell me, are you as cute and quirky on the outside as you are on the inside?

AnimeJune · 05-15-2006, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Keyser Sushi

Bingo.

LOL! Then maybe I just haven't been looking far enough north before. Tell me, are you as cute and quirky on the outside as you are on the inside?

Well, I know for a fact that my mother says I'm cool.

Bat-God · 05-15-2006, 06:27 PM

No Robin.

If you've read Dark Victory, you'll notice that once Robin appeared, the mood changed significantly.

I do not want the mood that Robin brings in these new Batman movies.

Iglius · 05-15-2006, 06:42 PM

Alright, it seems to me that Nolan is trying to do the character of Batman some justice with his darker, more realistic take on it. He said he doesn't want to re-do many of the old villians, bringing in only the key characters that need to be in it in order for it to be a Batman story. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd consider Robin part of the Batman mythology. He is one of those key characters in my opinion. If they figured out a way to put him in the series without causing to many gay jokes and without changing the overall mood of the thing, I wouldn't complain.

AnimeJune · 05-15-2006, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Iglius

Alright, it seems to me that Nolan is trying to do the character of Batman some justice with his darker, more realistic take on it. He said he doesn't want to re-do many of the old villians, bringing in only the key characters that need to be in it in order for it to be a Batman story. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd consider Robin part of the Batman mythology. He is one of those key characters in my opinion. If they figured out a way to put him in the series without causing to many gay jokes and without changing the overall mood of the thing, I wouldn't complain.

Well, he's a main character, but a key character? Hmmm... I think he's one of those characters who has some importance, but isn't immediately relevant to the Batman story, so shouldn't automatically get a place in Nolan's Batman films.

StorminNorman · 05-15-2006, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AnimeJune

Well, he's a main character, but a key character? Hmmm... I think he's one of those characters who has some importance, but isn't immediately relevant to the Batman story, so shouldn't automatically get a place in Nolan's Batman films.

Actually yes, I think Robin is key to Batman's story because Robin is the one that keeps Batman human.

Iglius · 05-15-2006, 07:22 PM

I think it all depends on how they choose to present the character. It could add alot to the series, or it could cause mass suckage.

El Payaso · 05-15-2006, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by StorminNorman

Actually yes, I think Robin is key to Batman's story because Robin is the one that keeps Batman human.

If there's no Robin, he'll turn into a giant tarantula or something?

Cuz he was human in BB.

Keyser Sushi · 05-15-2006, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AnimeJune

Well, I know for a fact that my mother says I'm cool.

Hehehe. Well, I suspect she's right, despite her obvious bias.

griffolyon12 · 05-15-2006, 07:30 PM

I would like to see Robin,because I think Nolan could actually make this a cool character.But I don't want him in BB2.I like Robin and would love to see him,but I also want to see this franchise keep up the same quality as BB.So if they could do it without ruining this very promising franchise I'm all for him in BB3,and if they make one BB4,but BB2 is just too early to add his character.

Keyser Sushi · 05-15-2006, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by El Payaso

If there's no Robin, he'll turn into a giant tarantula or something?

Cuz he was human in BB.

Congratulations, Ellie. You made me "LOL" for real.

But, that was my man Norm you tossed that gem of a line at...

In my opinion, Batman's "humanity" as Norm is speaking of it, is his compassion and heart... and its presence or absence depends largely on the writers. It's easy to take the character to a place where he becomes that harsh, and Robin obviously does keep him somewhat grounded by, basically, providing human contact. But I don't think Batman always needs that... I think Batman, as written in Begins, is pretty well-balanced, mentally and emotionally.

I also think that his mental state may slip a bit in BB2-3, but will they need Robin to help him reclaim that? Not necessarily.

AnimeJune · 05-15-2006, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by El Payaso

If there's no Robin, he'll turn into a giant tarantula or something?

Cuz he was human in BB.

Yeah - Man-Bat was a different character from Bruce, unlike Peter Parker and Man-Spider (by the way, which came first? Man-Bat or Man-Spider?).

Bat-God · 05-15-2006, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AnimeJune

Yeah - Man-Bat was a different character from Bruce, unlike Peter Parker and Man-Spider (by the way, which came first? Man-Bat or Man-Spider?).

Man-Bat, I think.

El Payaso · 05-15-2006, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AnimeJune

Yeah - Man-Bat was a different character from Bruce, unlike Peter Parker and Man-Spider (by the way, which came first? Man-Bat or Man-Spider?).

Yeah - and Man-Bat was not Bruce Wayne and all that stuff, and the tarantula... well, i don't know.

Keyser Sushi · 05-15-2006, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AnimeJune

Yeah - Man-Bat was a different character from Bruce, unlike Peter Parker and Man-Spider (by the way, which came first? Man-Bat or Man-Spider?).

Quick! To the Bat-Wikipedia!

First appearance of Man-Bat: Detective Comics #400, June 1970:

First appearance of Man-Spider, Marvel Fanfare #1, March 1982:

05-14-2006, 02:53 PM	#26
Two-Face Harvey Dent Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Arkham City Posts: 45,095	Re: Robin To Be Or Not To Be This batman7289 person I bet it is Spiderfreddie who else would start another Robin thread and knows there are too many Robin threads but posts new ones anyway. __________________ Sir Alex Ferguson - A true United Legend. Thank you. TWO-FACE:[as Harvey Dent]The only way to get by in this place is to get ourselves some respect...[as Two-Face:]...Fear! That's how we get respect! Show them ... how we do things!" Batman: Arkham Origins 25/10/13

05-15-2006, 08:46 AM	#30
블라스 Side-Kick Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 35,193	Re: Robin To Be Or Not To Be These Robin threads give me some really bad headaches. __________________ XBL Gamertag: BlasLee PSN Gamertag:BlasLee

05-15-2006, 09:54 AM	#31
Dark Knight88 Side-Kick Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 189	Re: Robin To Be Or Not To Be No Robin. Final Answer.

05-15-2006, 11:46 AM	#33
StorminNorman Banned User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 30,658	Re: Robin To Be Or Not To Be Nolan doesnt not like Robin (he even has said that Dick Grayson does exist in his world) it is Bale who hates Robin (with a passion it seems).

05-15-2006, 06:27 PM	#38
Bat-God Side-Kick Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 212	Re: Robin To Be Or Not To Be No Robin. If you've read Dark Victory, you'll notice that once Robin appeared, the mood changed significantly. I do not want the mood that Robin brings in these new Batman movies.

05-15-2006, 06:42 PM	#39
Iglius Side-Kick Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,899	Re: Robin To Be Or Not To Be Alright, it seems to me that Nolan is trying to do the character of Batman some justice with his darker, more realistic take on it. He said he doesn't want to re-do many of the old villians, bringing in only the key characters that need to be in it in order for it to be a Batman story. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd consider Robin part of the Batman mythology. He is one of those key characters in my opinion. If they figured out a way to put him in the series without causing to many gay jokes and without changing the overall mood of the thing, I wouldn't complain.

05-15-2006, 07:22 PM	#42
Iglius Side-Kick Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,899	Re: Robin To Be Or Not To Be I think it all depends on how they choose to present the character. It could add alot to the series, or it could cause mass suckage.

05-15-2006, 07:30 PM	#45
griffolyon12 Side-Kick Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 585	Re: Robin To Be Or Not To Be I would like to see Robin,because I think Nolan could actually make this a cool character.But I don't want him in BB2.I like Robin and would love to see him,but I also want to see this franchise keep up the same quality as BB.So if they could do it without ruining this very promising franchise I'm all for him in BB3,and if they make one BB4,but BB2 is just too early to add his character.

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