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Old 05-28-2006, 03:33 PM   #1
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There will be an X 4. The numbers have done the talking and no way will a sequel not happen.

Now is the time for X fans to unite and come up with a Plausible Storyline for the next three sequels to follow. Not just an X 4 but at least a storyline that can carry on for three more films. Star Wars can stand on its own but it works as part of a trilogy. We need this to happen for the next three X films.

We need to brainstorm now so that we can email our collective idea to the studio, but more importantly to the writers. The writers are where it all starts and if we can influence them or just give them an idea hopefully things will improve and get better.

Just remember that we can't ignore the past three films. We have to come up with something that makes sense in the XMovie world. Hopefully in two to three years we can start with a new and improved Xfilm world.

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Old 05-28-2006, 03:37 PM   #2
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how would you get them to the writers? (honest question, no sarcasm)

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Old 05-28-2006, 03:53 PM   #3
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Okay here's one:

Cyclops, Rogue, Xavier, Magneto and Pheonex hunt down Rothman, Ratner, Kinberg and Penn and kill them all and then Xavier wipes everyone's mind that The Last Stand ever happened and Singer makes a proper third X-Men installment.

That would be a great X4.

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Old 05-28-2006, 03:58 PM   #4
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We can contact the writers through their agents! managers, etc.

Also have some contacts at USC school of cinema and televsion. I'm not saying write a script. I'm saying we can come up with treatments or beat breakdowns of different scenarios and just email them to the writers.

Just to get them brainstorming in the right direction.

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Old 05-28-2006, 04:15 PM   #5
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The president looks like Mr. Burns. So I think they should include the Simpsons in the X4 as new mutants who are yellow and have four fingers. Cowabunga dude.

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Old 05-28-2006, 04:21 PM   #6
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I guess this is something I should do on my own. lol

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Old 05-28-2006, 04:24 PM   #7
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heres a better one, xavier
wipes away the memories of everyone associated with the film
no killing neccessary just a clean slate

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Old 05-28-2006, 04:27 PM   #8
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you guys seem to forget the reason, why they kept saying this is the last of three, not simply because of stories, but because its insanely difficult, for whatever reason, to gather all the actors during the certain production time.

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Old 05-28-2006, 04:38 PM   #9
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Exactly.

Why does this poster know for a FACT there will be a sequel?

Was there an ET 2??? I dont think so.

Please get over it. This was the last movie.

Halle Berry and Hugh Jackmans salaries alone make it difficult to do a good movie!!!

Look what happened to Terminator 3... It was not a horrible movie but they stretched the story way too far.. to the point where the regular movie goer was no longer interested.

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Old 05-28-2006, 04:39 PM   #10
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Exactly.

Why does this poster know for a FACT there will be a sequel?

Was there an ET 2??? I dont think so.

Please get over it. This was the last movie.

Halle Berry and Hugh Jackmans salaries alone make it difficult to do a good movie!!!

Look what happened to Terminator 3... It was not a horrible movie but they stretched the story way too far.. to the point where the regular movie goer was no longer interested.
Terminator 3 did not make over $100 million it's first weekend.

There will be a sequel.

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Old 05-28-2006, 04:49 PM   #11
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Terminator 2 you mean?

X3 cost about 400 million to make.. it did not break even yet buddy.

The food services alone assoicated with this movie is about 50 million.


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Old 05-28-2006, 04:53 PM   #12
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400 million?

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Old 05-28-2006, 04:56 PM   #13
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Now is the time for X fans to unite and come up with a Plausible Storyline for the next three sequels to follow.

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We need to brainstorm now so that we can email our collective idea to the studio, but more importantly to the writers.
Are you kidding? Do you really think the writers are so lacking in ideas that they'd have to come to the internet for things to put in their script?

*recalls the "I'm the Juggernaut *****!" line from the final battle*

...nevermind, go for it.


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Old 05-28-2006, 05:00 PM   #14
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It has already taken the film-makers three x-men movies to complete something that resembles a satisfying story arch, I'm not sure if they could really pull the same thing off with just one more sequel if it were to happen, and of course there's getting everyone back in front of the camera.

I'm not sure what story they would go with in a forth movie that people would still find interesting. I'd like to see an official "passing of the torch" sort of story-arch towards the younger members of the team with maybe only two or three adult members involved, and perhaps explore other villains besides Magneto and the Brotherhood, not Apocolypse cause I'm not sure how he would translate to film (FF2 are actually attempting Galactus so we'lll see how that pans out) and the Sentinels (a much more mouth-watering propect) have been scarpered by continueity issues with X3's Danger Room sequence. Maybe someone like Sinister could work, and I'd like to see Cyclops make a return(no body so I ain't buying that he's really taty) seeing as if I remeber right, from the cartoon anyway, only ol' Summers can damage Sinister with his funky eye beams. A nice stage for him to finally get a bit of the spot light. Oh and I'd like to see a return for Nightcrawler. This could all be set against a sub-plot where Magneto and Prof X. are slowly re-emmerging from the shadows after X3, kind of in the same the Spider-man films have been hinting at Harry Osborn's rise as a second goblin.


There's a movie I'd like to see if a 4th film happens, but only if the adequate time and attention was given to the production with a different director in place, no offense Brett (some one like Paul Greengrass would make an awesome X-men movie IMHO)

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Old 05-28-2006, 05:02 PM   #15
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Terminator 2 you mean?

X3 cost about 400 million to make.. it did not break even yet buddy.

The food services alone assoicated with this movie is about 50 million.
You sir, are an idiot. AFAIK Titanic remains the most expensive movie ever made at $110 million. X3 didn't come near costing that much.

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Titanic cost 200 million

x3 cost about the same after you consider development cost and marketing/promotion.

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Old 05-28-2006, 05:14 PM   #17
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You sir, are an idiot. AFAIK Titanic remains the most expensive movie ever made at $110 million. X3 didn't come near costing that much.
You sir are an idiot. Halle Berry alone cost 10 million and some of the profits. Hugh Jackman cost 15 million and some of the profits. Then you take special effects and sets and other actors.. and the salaries for the writers, other actors, etc.. then you put in the MOST expensive aspect of a movie.

WORLD WIDE MARKETING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

x3 is a 400 million dollar investment. you are a moron for believing what you are told!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 05-28-2006, 05:19 PM   #18
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You sir, are an idiot. AFAIK Titanic remains the most expensive movie ever made at $110 million. X3 didn't come near costing that much.
What? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!
Actually, Titanic cost over 200 million to make. King Kong and Spiderman 2 both surpassed that. Rumour has it that Superman and Harry Potter will both exceed that (if you factor in inflation, I think Cleopatra was the most expensive ever).
http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/records/budgets.html

X-Men's Budget was 150 million dollars (Some sites report it as high as 200 million, but I think they're wrong). That's not including marketing (I don't think) which could easily tack on 50 million+ worldwide (Fox had an insane marketing blitz for this film, and X1's marketing budget was only 30 million). At this rate, they'll make their money back in about 1 month, which is a quick turnaround time. After that, it's purely profit. the-numbers.com usually has stastics as far as return on profit, etc.


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Old 05-28-2006, 05:26 PM   #19
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with marketing i think it s 210

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with marketing i think it s 210
You have no idea how much things cost. Stop assuming.

The movie is costing the company approx 400 million.

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You have no idea how much things cost. Stop assuming.

The movie is costing the company approx 400 million.
It's not that big of an assumption. X1's CONFIRMED marketing costs were about 22.7 million in the US. I'd double that for worldwide at the most, and then MAYBE double that for X3. That's not even 100 million. (For a comparison, X2's worldwide marketing budget was about 40 million).

One thing I could almost guarantee: This movie will NOT cost the company anywhere near 400 million.

Stop assuming.


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Old 05-29-2006, 01:07 AM   #22
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"We need to brainstorm now so that we can email our collective idea to the studio"

Come on, like they care. The outcry for Scotts fate A YEAR ago was a hint and 1/2 for them. They didnt change a thing.

They just dont care.

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Old 05-29-2006, 01:13 AM   #23
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OK all the financial mumbo jumbo aside what can be placed as a proper X4, 5, 6 and actually not suck.

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The movie is costing the company approx 400 million.
Like you know? I may not be an expert, but I've been around this stuff long enough and done enough research to know that saying this movie cost 400 million is an absolutely ludicrous suggestion.

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"We need to brainstorm now so that we can email our collective idea to the studio"

Come on, like they care. The outcry for Scotts fate A YEAR ago was a hint and 1/2 for them. They didnt change a thing.

They just dont care.
They cared enough to at least change it around so we never see him die, and leave an out to easily bring him back.

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