Poll: Should Tony be a Boozer? - Page 2

Casius--J · 06-25-2006, 08:46 AM

I like the idea better of him being an alchoholic in a sequel, leaves room for an origin and creates a really good sequel as it takes the character in a new direction.

terry78 · 06-25-2006, 10:19 AM

Why would being an alcoholic warrant an R rating? Many PG-13 flicks do it as we speak. I ain't a drinker personally, but even I feel they would be somewhat sugarcoating it. He's still a superhero, but if they show him overcoming it and still being able to save the day, I would think it would be fine for the kiddies to watch.

Drakon · 06-25-2006, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by terry78

Why would being an alcoholic warrant an R rating? Many PG-13 flicks do it as we speak. I ain't a drinker personally, but even I feel they would be somewhat sugarcoating it. He's still a superhero, but if they show him overcoming it and still being able to save the day, I would think it would be fine for the kiddies to watch.

Mild use of drugs and alcohol usually warrant a PG-13. But heavier usage, as well as the violence that's obviously gonna be in the movie together would probably warrant the "R" rating.

Weadazoid · 06-25-2006, 02:38 PM

I think they should show him drinking.... a bit, and in particular when he is stressed or trying to unwind.

After a business meeting some Scotch.... nothing but the best for Mr. Stark Johnny Walker Blue Label...

At the end of the movie he should be exhausted and when he gets home it should be the first thing he goes for

The movie may end on a depressing note if that happens though.... Him drinking alone in a dark room

but it would of course be great foreshadowing.

I don't get all the R rateing talk...becasue of showing a.... an alcoholic character drammas do that all the time on TV.... The OC comes to mind

Spider - Man · 06-25-2006, 03:45 PM

I think it should be hinted at. Not the problems he will develope from drinking, just that he does a lot of it.

I'd love a scene like from the Ultimates comic where just after climbing out of the armor, Jarvis approaches with a tray with a martini and a shaker. Someone says "For Gods sake, Stark, it's 10 a.m." to which he replies "Not in Moscow, old boy! Cheers!"

Gogo Bananas · 06-25-2006, 05:24 PM

I'd like to see them go the 'Rocky' route - where at the end...he's failed. Mr.Too-Cool-For-School Stark falling from his ivory tower.
That's something we don't really get to see in our heroes too much anymore.

Leto Atrides · 06-27-2006, 03:52 PM

I kind of like the idea Favreau seems to have; that is, to parallel the comics. He could start off the flawlwess hero in the first film, and start to run into problems as time goes by.

Personally, I think they should include him casually drinking, pouring a scotch for a meeting, that sort of thing. Not call it to attention, not foreshadow at all, but have it there. Then, when they show him having a problem in the future, it can be a progressive thing.

TheVileOne · 06-27-2006, 04:14 PM

Favreau has already confirmed that he won't be an alcoholic in this movie.

It's pretty awesome because his thoughts on the matter are the exact same as mine.

Nightwing · 06-27-2006, 11:39 PM

I like the idea of having the alcoholism forshadowed. For the first film, I want to see Favreau's vision of who Stark is exactly, and why he's made the armor in the first place. His alcohol problem wasn't until later in the comics. With that said, the first film should be his introduction to the people watching the film. Already Favreau mentioned it would possibly be one of the main factors, if he were to direct a sequel.

Kaboom · 06-28-2006, 01:47 PM

i think the drinking should also be hinted at, and begin for real in the sequel. My view of the movies...is
1- origin vs. mandarin, however the side story would be the theft of the iron man design, with the last scene being of "iron man" killing somebody important.

2- iron man feels the guilt of having his armor stolen, and iron man outfits mass produced and rather than doing something about it, drinks it away...allowing war machine to take up the cause. movie ends with war machines capture

3- redemption, iron man must save his friend and rid the world of his creations gone awry

Nightwing · 06-28-2006, 11:13 PM

I really think that the alcohol should only have a small effect in the first film. Not too big so that it's overdone, but just enough so that it gives vague hints that he DOES have a problem. Which would resolve for a sequel. The alcohol wasn't until years in his life, so I'm satisfied to hear that Favreau has realized that, and will give the character a proper introduction.

Shadow_Knight · 06-29-2006, 12:33 AM

I thin kthey should show him drinking a bit but only to foreshadow.

Ironman24 · 06-29-2006, 08:13 AM

Not in the first movie, I mean show Tony drinking heavy in a screen and hint that there may be a problem down the line.

Ultra Lantern · 11-27-2011, 06:12 PM

Tony should start to drink more alcohol in The Avengers and then in Iron Man 3.

Iron_Stark · 12-13-2011, 11:33 AM

More action, less boozing.

dru-zod2501 · 12-15-2011, 06:46 PM

Who the hell said Tony should be a flawless (read: sober) hero?

Fudgie · 12-16-2011, 01:30 AM

I love the alcoholic story. I just wish it was done better in Iron Man 2. It's one of Stark's best stories.

Hypestyle · 01-17-2012, 08:15 PM

too bad that Tony's never been portrayed at a hip-hop club yet, throwing back hennessy..

View Poll Results: Should Tony Stark be a drunk from the start?
Yes, he should be walking the line from the start.	18	29.51%
No, show him drinking a bit but only to foreshadow a possible drinking problem in a sequel.	42	68.85%
No, Tony should be a flawless hero.	1	1.64%
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06-25-2006, 08:46 AM	#26
Casius--J Web Master Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spain Posts: 3,446	Re: Poll: Should Tony be a Boozer? I like the idea better of him being an alchoholic in a sequel, leaves room for an origin and creates a really good sequel as it takes the character in a new direction. __________________ "If we can't protect the earth, you can be damn sure we'll avenge it" - Tony Stark

06-25-2006, 10:19 AM	#27
terry78 I'm laughing internally Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Northwest Indiana Posts: 53,610	Re: Poll: Should Tony be a Boozer? Why would being an alcoholic warrant an R rating? Many PG-13 flicks do it as we speak. I ain't a drinker personally, but even I feel they would be somewhat sugarcoating it. He's still a superhero, but if they show him overcoming it and still being able to save the day, I would think it would be fine for the kiddies to watch. __________________ It's better to be seen than viewed. ----------- Who the **** makes a movie and while planning it is like, "you know what this needs...is some Greg Kinnear."

06-25-2006, 02:38 PM	#29
Weadazoid Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Illadel Posts: 4,030	Re: Poll: Should Tony be a Boozer? I think they should show him drinking.... a bit, and in particular when he is stressed or trying to unwind. After a business meeting some Scotch.... nothing but the best for Mr. Stark Johnny Walker Blue Label... At the end of the movie he should be exhausted and when he gets home it should be the first thing he goes for The movie may end on a depressing note if that happens though.... Him drinking alone in a dark room but it would of course be great foreshadowing. I don't get all the R rateing talk...becasue of showing a.... an alcoholic character drammas do that all the time on TV.... The OC comes to mind __________________ 100 chimps working in unison to create the next great American Novel... It was the best of times it..... it was the blurst of times??? You have to love Mr. Burns.

06-25-2006, 03:45 PM	#30
Spider - Man Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,365	Re: Poll: Should Tony be a Boozer? I think it should be hinted at. Not the problems he will develope from drinking, just that he does a lot of it. I'd love a scene like from the Ultimates comic where just after climbing out of the armor, Jarvis approaches with a tray with a martini and a shaker. Someone says "For Gods sake, Stark, it's 10 a.m." to which he replies "Not in Moscow, old boy! Cheers!"

06-25-2006, 05:24 PM	#31
Gogo Bananas Banned User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 456	Re: Poll: Should Tony be a Boozer? I'd like to see them go the 'Rocky' route - where at the end...he's failed. Mr.Too-Cool-For-School Stark falling from his ivory tower. That's something we don't really get to see in our heroes too much anymore.

06-27-2006, 03:52 PM	#32
Leto Atrides Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,288	Re: Poll: Should Tony be a Boozer? I kind of like the idea Favreau seems to have; that is, to parallel the comics. He could start off the flawlwess hero in the first film, and start to run into problems as time goes by. Personally, I think they should include him casually drinking, pouring a scotch for a meeting, that sort of thing. Not call it to attention, not foreshadow at all, but have it there. Then, when they show him having a problem in the future, it can be a progressive thing.

06-27-2006, 04:14 PM	#33
TheVileOne Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: California Posts: 32,277	Re: Poll: Should Tony be a Boozer? Favreau has already confirmed that he won't be an alcoholic in this movie. It's pretty awesome because his thoughts on the matter are the exact same as mine. __________________ "This is true. This is real. This . . . Is . . . Straight Edge." - CM Punk

06-27-2006, 11:39 PM	#34
Nightwing Things change Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 11,860	Re: Poll: Should Tony be a Boozer? I like the idea of having the alcoholism forshadowed. For the first film, I want to see Favreau's vision of who Stark is exactly, and why he's made the armor in the first place. His alcohol problem wasn't until later in the comics. With that said, the first film should be his introduction to the people watching the film. Already Favreau mentioned it would possibly be one of the main factors, if he were to direct a sequel. __________________ You'll never know if you can fly unless you take the risk of falling.

06-28-2006, 01:47 PM	#35
Kaboom knock knock Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Gator Nation Posts: 8,179	Re: Poll: Should Tony be a Boozer? i think the drinking should also be hinted at, and begin for real in the sequel. My view of the movies...is 1- origin vs. mandarin, however the side story would be the theft of the iron man design, with the last scene being of "iron man" killing somebody important. 2- iron man feels the guilt of having his armor stolen, and iron man outfits mass produced and rather than doing something about it, drinks it away...allowing war machine to take up the cause. movie ends with war machines capture 3- redemption, iron man must save his friend and rid the world of his creations gone awry __________________ Eagle Scout in CAH VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

06-28-2006, 11:13 PM	#36
Nightwing Things change Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 11,860	Re: Poll: Should Tony be a Boozer? I really think that the alcohol should only have a small effect in the first film. Not too big so that it's overdone, but just enough so that it gives vague hints that he DOES have a problem. Which would resolve for a sequel. The alcohol wasn't until years in his life, so I'm satisfied to hear that Favreau has realized that, and will give the character a proper introduction. __________________ You'll never know if you can fly unless you take the risk of falling.

06-29-2006, 12:33 AM	#37
Shadow_Knight AKA Symbiote Spider-Man Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In the Shadows Posts: 622	Re: Poll: Should Tony be a Boozer? I thin kthey should show him drinking a bit but only to foreshadow.

06-29-2006, 08:13 AM	#38
Ironman24 Golden Avenger Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Stark Solutions Posts: 529	Re: Poll: Should Tony be a Boozer? Not in the first movie, I mean show Tony drinking heavy in a screen and hint that there may be a problem down the line.

11-27-2011, 06:12 PM	#39
Ultra Lantern In Darkest Night! Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: The future Posts: 5,307	Re: Poll: Should Tony be a Boozer? Tony should start to drink more alcohol in The Avengers and then in Iron Man 3. __________________ My journey from 500 years in the future is to change the chaos inflicted by The Thread Manager.I know the fate of everyone.I only have one weakness.I have to recharge my ring every 72 hours.

12-13-2011, 11:33 AM	#40
Iron_Stark You ever tried Shawarma? Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Stark Tower Posts: 5,270	Re: Poll: Should Tony be a Boozer? More action, less boozing.

12-15-2011, 06:46 PM	#41
dru-zod2501 Side-Kick Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 566	Re: Poll: Should Tony be a Boozer? Who the hell said Tony should be a flawless (read: sober) hero?

12-16-2011, 01:30 AM	#42
Fudgie Side-Kick Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,942	Re: Poll: Should Tony be a Boozer? I love the alcoholic story. I just wish it was done better in Iron Man 2. It's one of Stark's best stories.

01-17-2012, 08:15 PM	#43
Hypestyle Side-Kick Join Date: May 2000 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 4,829	Re: Poll: Should Tony be a Boozer? too bad that Tony's never been portrayed at a hip-hop club yet, throwing back hennessy..

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