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Old 07-09-2006, 03:29 PM   #1
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Default Okay, so what would you do?

Everyone has their own opinions, and eveyone seems to have at least one comic book film that they dislike. I was curious to hear everyone's feedback. If you were in charge of the making of any comic book films (Marvel, DC, Image, whatever) which ones would you do? Which ones would you have done differently and how/why?

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Old 07-09-2006, 05:05 PM   #2
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Everyone has their own opinions, and eveyone seems to have at least one comic book film that they dislike. I was curious to hear everyone's feedback. If you were in charge of the making of any comic book films (Marvel, DC, Image, whatever) which ones would you do? Which ones would you have done differently and how/why?
If you gave me the power to make one change....

....I wouldn't change a thing.

In five years we'll look back on this era of numerous superhero movies every year as the Golden Age. When Spider-Man Hype! was launched, no-one even dreamed we be seeing consecutive summers of Batman and the Fantastic Four, of X-Men and Superman, three Spider-Man movies in five years, Batman resurrected in a genuinely superb piece of film making, and Daredevil, Ghost Rider, the Punisher, Blade, Hellboy, Elektra - so many characters who would never be given a multi-million dollar movie opportunity before. To cap it all off, Superman returned and the series picked up after a near twenty year absence - in the same year that V for Vendetta, one of the most deep and controversial of all comicbook tales, is released as a major movie. Who would have predicted that?

And not only that - these movies are made, by and large, with intelligence and love. Raimi has given us Spider-Man movies which are about how hard it is to be a superhero, exactly as Stan Lee wrote all those years ago. Bryan Singer brought a new level of respect and drama to the genre, which Christopher Nolan and Ang Lee followed up on. Regardless of your opinion of the movie Daredevil, Mark Steven Johnson fought to get the movie he wanted from Fox and, albeit as the director's cut DVD, he eventually did. Purely because of his affection for the character.

All our superheroes - Spider-Man, Batman, Superman, Wolverine and the X-Men, the Hulk, the Fantastic Four, Daredevil and Elektra, Ghost Rider - have been bought to life before our eyes with genuine acting talent and top-draw special effects. We've had great actors like Sir Ian McKellen, Patrick Stewart, Willem Dafoe, Cliff Robertson, Frank Langella, Alfred Molina and Kevin Spacey - whereas we might very well have just been given movie stars. We've seen the emergence of young talent who have become stars thru the genre, like Hugh Jackman, Tobey Maguire and Aaron Stanford. We've had Christian Bale cast as Batman, a genuine dream come true for so many fans.

And most importantly, we've had an incredible line-up of directors. No explosion-masters like Michael Bay, Renny Harlin or Simon West for this genre.
We've had Bryan Singer, Christopher Nolan, Del Toro, Ang Lee and Sam Raimi. That is the future of Hollywood right there.

I'm not going to complain. I look at my shelf of DVDs and think, "Wow."

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Old 07-09-2006, 09:23 PM   #3
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I'd redo The Mask and somehow wipe the memories of the previous movies from everyone's minds.

Base it on the first story arc with 1/2 of the plot involving Stanley Ipkiss' experiences with the Mask, and the rest of the story chronicling Lt. Kellaway's turn as Big-Head. Have a huge fight with Walter (expanding on the small fight they first had in the comic). I'd make the Mask as seductive and tempting as it should be, but the Big-Head(s) slowly discovering the price of their god-like power, which completely takes over Stanley and Kellaway later does his best to fight it.

And I would adapt (as accurately as possible) the climax where Big-Head (Kellaway) takes on the rest of the police force with a battle axe after surviving their onslaught of gunfire (one of the most badass scenes in any comic I've ever read, IMHO).

It would be a dark comedy/horror/action/crime thriller.

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Old 07-09-2006, 09:59 PM   #4
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Default Re: Okay, so what would you do?

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Originally Posted by Kevin Roegele
If you gave me the power to make one change....

....I wouldn't change a thing.

In five years we'll look back on this era of numerous superhero movies every year as the Golden Age. When Spider-Man Hype! was launched, no-one even dreamed we be seeing consecutive summers of Batman and the Fantastic Four, of X-Men and Superman, three Spider-Man movies in five years, Batman resurrected in a genuinely superb piece of film making, and Daredevil, Ghost Rider, the Punisher, Blade, Hellboy, Elektra - so many characters who would never be given a multi-million dollar movie opportunity before. To cap it all off, Superman returned and the series picked up after a near twenty year absence - in the same year that V for Vendetta, one of the most deep and controversial of all comicbook tales, is released as a major movie. Who would have predicted that?

And not only that - these movies are made, by and large, with intelligence and love. Raimi has given us Spider-Man movies which are about how hard it is to be a superhero, exactly as Stan Lee wrote all those years ago. Bryan Singer brought a new level of respect and drama to the genre, which Christopher Nolan and Ang Lee followed up on. Regardless of your opinion of the movie Daredevil, Mark Steven Johnson fought to get the movie he wanted from Fox and, albeit as the director's cut DVD, he eventually did. Purely because of his affection for the character.

All our superheroes - Spider-Man, Batman, Superman, Wolverine and the X-Men, the Hulk, the Fantastic Four, Daredevil and Elektra, Ghost Rider - have been bought to life before our eyes with genuine acting talent and top-draw special effects. We've had great actors like Sir Ian McKellen, Patrick Stewart, Willem Dafoe, Cliff Robertson, Frank Langella, Alfred Molina and Kevin Spacey - whereas we might very well have just been given movie stars. We've seen the emergence of young talent who have become stars thru the genre, like Hugh Jackman, Tobey Maguire and Aaron Stanford. We've had Christian Bale cast as Batman, a genuine dream come true for so many fans.

And most importantly, we've had an incredible line-up of directors. No explosion-masters like Michael Bay, Renny Harlin or Simon West for this genre.
We've had Bryan Singer, Christopher Nolan, Del Toro, Ang Lee and Sam Raimi. That is the future of Hollywood right there.

I'm not going to complain. I look at my shelf of DVDs and think, "Wow."
I completely agree with Kevin.

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Old 07-10-2006, 12:08 AM   #5
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Default Re: Okay, so what would you do?

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Originally Posted by Kevin Roegele
If you gave me the power to make one change....

....I wouldn't change a thing.

In five years we'll look back on this era of numerous superhero movies every year as the Golden Age. When Spider-Man Hype! was launched, no-one even dreamed we be seeing consecutive summers of Batman and the Fantastic Four, of X-Men and Superman, three Spider-Man movies in five years, Batman resurrected in a genuinely superb piece of film making, and Daredevil, Ghost Rider, the Punisher, Blade, Hellboy, Elektra - so many characters who would never be given a multi-million dollar movie opportunity before. To cap it all off, Superman returned and the series picked up after a near twenty year absence - in the same year that V for Vendetta, one of the most deep and controversial of all comicbook tales, is released as a major movie. Who would have predicted that?

And not only that - these movies are made, by and large, with intelligence and love. Raimi has given us Spider-Man movies which are about how hard it is to be a superhero, exactly as Stan Lee wrote all those years ago. Bryan Singer brought a new level of respect and drama to the genre, which Christopher Nolan and Ang Lee followed up on. Regardless of your opinion of the movie Daredevil, Mark Steven Johnson fought to get the movie he wanted from Fox and, albeit as the director's cut DVD, he eventually did. Purely because of his affection for the character.

All our superheroes - Spider-Man, Batman, Superman, Wolverine and the X-Men, the Hulk, the Fantastic Four, Daredevil and Elektra, Ghost Rider - have been bought to life before our eyes with genuine acting talent and top-draw special effects. We've had great actors like Sir Ian McKellen, Patrick Stewart, Willem Dafoe, Cliff Robertson, Frank Langella, Alfred Molina and Kevin Spacey - whereas we might very well have just been given movie stars. We've seen the emergence of young talent who have become stars thru the genre, like Hugh Jackman, Tobey Maguire and Aaron Stanford. We've had Christian Bale cast as Batman, a genuine dream come true for so many fans.

And most importantly, we've had an incredible line-up of directors. No explosion-masters like Michael Bay, Renny Harlin or Simon West for this genre.
We've had Bryan Singer, Christopher Nolan, Del Toro, Ang Lee and Sam Raimi. That is the future of Hollywood right there.

I'm not going to complain. I look at my shelf of DVDs and think, "Wow."
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Old 07-10-2006, 12:59 AM   #6
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Default Re: Okay, so what would you do?

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....I wouldn't change a thing.

I'm not going to complain. I look at my shelf of DVDs and think, "Wow."
A well thought out and intelligent reply, thank you. I somewhat agree. While some movies could have been better, for the most part I am happy with a majority of comic book films. I like you look at my DVD shelf and think I am looking at my comic book shelf. My only problem is, that I know we will not get movies one right after another like comics. One day, the movies will stop. I mean, for how much longer is Tobey maguire really gonna want to play Spider-Man? One thing I would like to see would be to have two movies shot simultaneously similar to Superman and Superman II, and have them released say a couple months apart like an old serial. That would be neat.

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Old 07-10-2006, 03:18 AM   #7
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If I could change one movie it would propably be "The Punisher". I liked the movie but felt that it could have been far more violent and shown the Punisher as a far more ruthless individual.

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Old 07-10-2006, 09:41 AM   #8
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If you gave me the power to make one change....

....I wouldn't change a thing.

In five years we'll look back on this era of numerous superhero movies every year as the Golden Age. When Spider-Man Hype! was launched, no-one even dreamed we be seeing consecutive summers of Batman and the Fantastic Four, of X-Men and Superman, three Spider-Man movies in five years, Batman resurrected in a genuinely superb piece of film making, and Daredevil, Ghost Rider, the Punisher, Blade, Hellboy, Elektra - so many characters who would never be given a multi-million dollar movie opportunity before. To cap it all off, Superman returned and the series picked up after a near twenty year absence - in the same year that V for Vendetta, one of the most deep and controversial of all comicbook tales, is released as a major movie. Who would have predicted that?

And not only that - these movies are made, by and large, with intelligence and love. Raimi has given us Spider-Man movies which are about how hard it is to be a superhero, exactly as Stan Lee wrote all those years ago. Bryan Singer brought a new level of respect and drama to the genre, which Christopher Nolan and Ang Lee followed up on. Regardless of your opinion of the movie Daredevil, Mark Steven Johnson fought to get the movie he wanted from Fox and, albeit as the director's cut DVD, he eventually did. Purely because of his affection for the character.

All our superheroes - Spider-Man, Batman, Superman, Wolverine and the X-Men, the Hulk, the Fantastic Four, Daredevil and Elektra, Ghost Rider - have been bought to life before our eyes with genuine acting talent and top-draw special effects. We've had great actors like Sir Ian McKellen, Patrick Stewart, Willem Dafoe, Cliff Robertson, Frank Langella, Alfred Molina and Kevin Spacey - whereas we might very well have just been given movie stars. We've seen the emergence of young talent who have become stars thru the genre, like Hugh Jackman, Tobey Maguire and Aaron Stanford. We've had Christian Bale cast as Batman, a genuine dream come true for so many fans.

And most importantly, we've had an incredible line-up of directors. No explosion-masters like Michael Bay, Renny Harlin or Simon West for this genre.
We've had Bryan Singer, Christopher Nolan, Del Toro, Ang Lee and Sam Raimi. That is the future of Hollywood right there.

I'm not going to complain. I look at my shelf of DVDs and think, "Wow."
I look at this post & think, "Wow".
I do agree. And sometimes you just have to take the bad w/the good. And being comic fans, by & large we're gonna always find reasons to complain. But just because you son't agree w/the direction they took doesn't mean they took the wrong one. Sam Raimi loves Spider-Man, but there are certain aspects that he finds more important than others. Nolan's objective was to give us a chance to know Bruce Wayne. Many of us love what he did. Some think Burton's movie was a masterpiece & Nolan just whizzed all over it. Who's to say which side is right? I know there are comic movies (Hulk, X3, FF) that I thoroughly enjoyed but the posters here think were utter crap. There are some I didn't really care for (Batman Returns) or don't care to see (Superman Returns) that a lot of the posters here think were golden. And that's fine, too. But I would never undo what any of these filmmakers have done. The only thing I really want is for them to continue in the direction that they have been, learn from certain mistakes (Catwoman) & remember, you want to make a quality film that both kids & their parents, fanboys & their girlfriends, young & old can enjoy.

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