What type of Superman film would you have preferred?

[BenReilly]

Hey guys,

With the recent opening of Superman Returns, I figured I start a poll and see what type of Superman film you guys would have preferred.


Superman Returns - A sequel to the first two Christopher Reeve films.

Smallville: The Movie - A continuation of the TV show Smallville. This film would use Smallville's cast and their continuity, and would follow Clark Kent through his Superman/Metropolis years.

A Total Restart - (a la Batman Begins) with no ties to any pre-existing live action Superman interpretation. Reboot the saga from scratch with a new cast and continuity, and build a foundation for a new series that draws heavily from the source material.


Thoughts?

[lordofthenerds]

I liked Superman Returns so I voted for that.

[SpiderHulkThing]

Originally Posted by lordofthenerds

I liked Superman Returns so I voted for that.

ditto. we all know how it started. i think they did a great job.

[Galactical]

Restart

Lexcorp

No kid with glasses, no kids in general

Better suit

Closer to the comics

[Caliber]

Originally Posted by Galactical

Restart

Lexcorp

No kid with glasses, no kids in general

Better suit

Closer to the comics

You read my mind. Superman needed to restart but it seems that people want the same crappy Supes film each time, I hope they got what they deserve.

[War Lord]

The Superman Returns was fine in its potential, but it wasn't delivered as well as it could have been.

[CConn]

Hmm. It's a hard question to answer because, if I were in control of the production, doing a movie like SR never would've even crossed my mind - it'd be a restart all the way. It'd be STAS and the current comics, and Lex Luthor: Man of Steel all combined into one. And it would be fantastic.

However, would it have been as fantastic as I thought SR was? Would it be good enough to be my favorite superhero movie like SR is? Honestly, I don't know. As great as STAS, the current comics are none of them did what SR did. None of them made me as big of a fan of Superman as SR did. And for that reason, I think I'll pick SR on the poll.

[SolidRoar]

A reboot telling the whole origin story. It could be done in one movie, 2 movies or a trilogy.

[JackBauer]

dunno if I would've made a movie EXACTLY like SR, but I wouldn't make an origin.

[Aethea]

I liked Superman Return's emotional intensity, but today's generation needed a restart and so did the comic book fans who have seen Superman evolve. Superman was short-changed, in a way.

[Kevin Roegele]

How about a TOTAL RESTART BUT KEEPING JOHN WILLIAM'S THEME TUNE?

[nolan's roll'n]

A reboot telling the whole origin story. It could be done in one movie, 2 movies or a trilogy.

Agreed.

[Katsuro]

Superman Returns. We didn't need to see the origin again. We have Smallville and S:TM for that. IT's a story that's been told a thousand times, and everyone knows it.

Another way would've been for Smallville to not suck and be closer to the comics, then go off that. But I'm not a fan of the continuity Smallville has set up, nor it's cast, so i'm glad they didn't base the film off that. I mean, any Smallville movie would have to explain why no one notices Clark's sudden use of glasses, and the appearance of a superhero who looks just like Clark did back when he didn't wear glasses.

[Galactical]

Bah humbug, Superman Begins would have been a nice compliment to the Batman begins movie. And hey if you thought smallville sux so much, why regard it as a good enough origin story that it'd be too redundant to tell it again. This time there won't be any lex in smallville and all that stuff... so... There will be differences. It won't be completely redundant.

though actually... It's been redudant for years.

Comics

Fleischer

George Reeves show

STM

Lois and Clark

Animated series

Smallville

What could one more grand retelling under a huge movie budget have hurt? escpecially after begins proves it's worth a try?

[comicgenius2111]

That would b cool 4 a smallville the movie so i vote smallville. Because i saw superman returns already.

[CConn]

Originally Posted by Galactical

What could one more grand retelling under a huge movie budget have hurt? escpecially after begins proves it's worth a try?

How did Begins prove it's worth a try? Batman's origin had never been told before. Hell, 99% of the comics don't even go as in-depth as BB did.

There's already a "nice compliment" to BB. It's STM. Sure, it hasn't aged as well as most movies - but it's still an excellent film, and still generally considered to be one of the best superhero movies ever made.

[Galactical]

Tell the truth now. Batman mask of the phantasm, batman 89, probably some others like the old and new animated series have flashed back to the origin of batman if my memory is correct. We've seen his origin before, yes.

STM's a great movie but should we assume it can't be done better? What would have happened if nolan didn't think he could out-do burton? In some ways i don't think he really did but that's for another topic. most agree the deeper look at the origin provided in begins was a good reason to make begins. We can have the same happen with superman and it'd be a nice compliment to what begins did to see Superman Begin too. We'd learn more than we did in STM about how his powers work, his suit, who he is and why he does what he's decided to do, all of that just like begins. No lois poetry. he'd not even be able to turn back time like so many complain about, we'd have a better lex luthor, better fx... I still think superman begins would be the way to go for a new movie.

[Jyn]

Superman Returns was good, but a lot of people don't remember the old Chris Reeves movies so it would've been cool 2 c them restart the series like Batman Begins.

[CConn]

Originally Posted by Galactical

Tell the truth now. Batman mask of the phantasm, batman 89, probably some others like the old and new animated series have flashed back to the origin of batman if my memory is correct. We've seen his origin before, yes.

You're comparing a bunch of random flashbacks in Batman cartoons to Superman's origin which has been done in its entirity at least 5 or 6 times in film, TV, and the comics. Not at all comparible, IMO.

Originally Posted by Galactical

STM's a great movie but should we assume it can't be done better? What would have happened if nolan didn't think he could out-do burton? In some ways i don't think he really did but that's for another topic. most agree the deeper look at the origin provided in begins was a good reason to make begins. We can have the same happen with superman and it'd be a nice compliment to what begins did to see Superman Begin too. We'd learn more than we did in STM about how his powers work, his suit, who he is and why he does what he's decided to do, all of that just like begins. No lois poetry. he'd not even be able to turn back time like so many complain about, we'd have a better lex luthor, better fx... I still think superman begins would be the way to go for a new movie.

As I've said in my comments above, I did too. But, at the same time, I don't believe it to be nearly as necessary as BB's was. Yeah, they could've improved on STM. But I think the question is, is STM an acceptable origin for Superman. I think, for the time being at least, it is. Whereas B89 and a bunch of snipets in BTAS were not for Batman.

[SuperFerret]

Originally Posted by War Lord

The Superman Returns was fine in its potential, but it wasn't delivered as well as it could have been.

Agreed.

Personally, I was hoping for a restart. I liked the original, but Superman has changed since then, so making new canon would've been great.

Now that I saw the movie, I really wish that they'd have gone with the restart, as Singer didn't really see too far outside of Donners movies while making SR.

[Galactical]

Originally Posted by CConn

You're comparing a bunch of random flashbacks in Batman cartoons to Superman's origin which has been done in its entirity at least 5 or 6 times in film, TV, and the comics. Not at all comparible, IMO.
As I've said in my comments above, I did too. But, at the same time, I don't believe it to be nearly as necessary as BB's was. Yeah, they could've improved on STM. But I think the question is, is STM an acceptable origin for Superman. I think, for the time being at least, it is. Whereas B89 and a bunch of snipets in BTAS were not for Batman.

Still an origin. We still got one somewhere somehow rather than not at all. And everyone and their mom's poodles knew what made batman batman long before seeing begins. To say we didn't get an origin for bats prior to begins in some shape or form is false.

Superman, batman, both have acceptable origins to Galactical. That's besides everything. What's delicious is Re-telling his story more in-depth with updated tech. That's just what I'd like to see. I'm not saying we haven't had good enough origins in the past. Only that an Update's do-able and like begins could be an interesting fresh perspective. No more ridiculous real-estate schemes please. Just sell drugs like normal criminals.

[Katsuro]

Originally Posted by Galactical

Tell the truth now. Batman mask of the phantasm, batman 89, probably some others like the old and new animated series have flashed back to the origin of batman if my memory is correct. We've seen his origin before, yes.

there's more to Batman's origin than just his parent's death, which is all we'd seen before Batman Begins. Tell me, in Burton's Batman continuiy, where did Bruce Wayne learn how to fight? Where did he get all his gadgets? Where'd the Batmobile come from? What made him decide that dressing up to fight crime was the right way to deal with his parents death? None of that was explained before Batman Begins.

Batman Begins showed us something we'd never seen before, which is something a Superman restart would not have done. Jor-El tries to convince people of the planets destruction, they dont believe him, he sends his son to Earth as the planet explodes, the Kents find Clark, they raise him, he learns of his heritage in the Fortress of Solitude, moves to Metropolis and becomes a Superhero. The only variation a restart would probably make would be keeping Pa Kent alive, like he is Post-Crisis. Aside from that, the first 45 minutes of the movie would be exactly like S:TM or the show Smallville.

And hey if you thought smallville sux so much, why regard it as a good enough origin story that it'd be too redundant to tell it again. This time there won't be any lex in smallville and all that stuff... so... There will be differences. It won't be completely redundant

Just because I dont enjoy the acting or the writing doesn't mean that it's not yet another version of the origin that we all already know. My point is simply that the origin has been told a thousand times, and Smallville is just another instance of it, regardless of if it's good. Besides, it got the basic origin details right, Jor-El tries to convince people of the planets destruction, they dont believe him, he sends his son to Earth as the planet explodes, the Kents find Clark, they raise him, he learns of his heritage in the Fortress of Solitude, and soon he'll move to Metropolis and become a Superhero.

[Bruce_Wayne29]

A Superman movie with the SV cast and a much better and exciting story.

[CrypticOne]

Superman Returns without a doubt.

[Galactical]

Originally Posted by Katsuro

there's more to Batman's origin than just his parent's death, which is all we'd seen before Batman Begins. Tell me, in Burton's Batman continuiy, where did Bruce Wayne learn how to fight? Where did he get all his gadgets? Where'd the Batmobile come from? What made him decide that dressing up to fight crime was the right way to deal with his parents death? None of that was explained before Batman Begins.

Batman Begins showed us something we'd never seen before, which is something a Superman restart would not have done. Jor-El tries to convince people of the planets destruction, they dont believe him, he sends his son to Earth as the planet explodes, the Kents find Clark, they raise him, he learns of his heritage in the Fortress of Solitude, moves to Metropolis and becomes a Superhero. The only variation a restart would probably make would be keeping Pa Kent alive, like he is Post-Crisis. Aside from that, the first 45 minutes of the movie would be exactly like S:TM or the show Smallville.

I anticipated this. Can't I just want a restart without all this arguing? Ok, We're talking about origin, not development or stages in life. We saw some snippets of that development in begins, cartoons, maybe others etc. As for the starting point or origin of his entire motivation to pursue the batman life, it was and forever will be the night his parents were senslessly killed. To me, not seeing batman develop his toys and skills was what made him even more mysterious and cool. thats why that little boot heel device was his best gadget in begins. Where'd he get that from? nobody knows. And it's cool because of that.

I don't even remember the origin on smallville or lois and clark or the animated series and barely remember the one from STM, mostly brando wearing foil or something.

I want Superman Begins.