Iron Man BO thread

[Advanced Dark]

Sorry GL I was thinking Bond 22. In any event it won't matter if Casino Royale does good or bad. What's Casino's competition? I know it's not Iron Man or anything close to it. Iron Man has NOTHING to worry about from a Bond film with Craig. Nothing at all. I can assure you Bond will change it's date or be crushed. He's old news now and giving him lighter hair doesn't change things for the better. I'm actually happy Bond is there because nobody else will move in on that date with Bond and Iron Man there cause it'll appear too crowded for 3 films.

[GL's Light]

It won't surprise me if Casino Royale turns out to have the same level of success as the Brosnan Bond films. I certainly wouldn't underestimate the Bond franchise, and Sony has more than enough power to stare down Marvel Studios. If FF 2 moved its release date because of Transformers, there's reason to think that Iron Man will move because of Bond. At any rate, it'll be interesting to watch the jockeying for release date positions continue.

[Ironfan72]

Well, like I said its way to early to speculate, Bond may do very well at the box off this year and if it does Marvel will have to take that into consideration, if it bombs then Marvel has nothing to worry about.

[mr jinx]

Originally Posted by GL's Light

It won't surprise me if Casino Royale turns out to have the same level of success as the Brosnan Bond films. I certainly wouldn't underestimate the Bond franchise, and Sony has more than enough power to stare down Marvel Studios. If FF 2 moved its release date because of Transformers, there's reason to think that Iron Man will move because of Bond. At any rate, it'll be interesting to watch the jockeying for release date positions continue.

why doesnt bond stay in november where is has had success in the past?

[GL's Light]

Originally Posted by mr jinx

why doesnt bond stay in november where is has had success in the past?

I'm surprised at the announcement. I thought they'd stick to November. But it's certainly not unprecedented to release a Bond film in the summer.

[mr jinx]

Originally Posted by GL's Light

I'm surprised at the announcement. I thought they'd stick to November. But it's certainly not unprecedented to release a Bond film in the summer.

but it will have been 19 years since licence to kill got its butt kicked. it seems much smarter to stay where success has been. i would say the same for even harry potter. the one summer potter did the worst of the 4 films. this bond vs iron man does seem personal especially since practically every other date is still open in summer 08.

[GL's Light]

Originally Posted by mr jinx

but it will have been 19 years since licence to kill got its butt kicked. it seems much smarter to stay where success has been. i would say the same for even harry potter. the one summer potter did the worst of the 4 films. this bond vs iron man does seem personal especially since practically every other date is still open in summer 08.

I don't think it's personal. The first weekend of May is a very valuable release date. When Marvel positioned Iron Man there, I wondered whether they'd be able to hang onto that date. There's always some rough-and-tumble between the studios for the best summer release dates, and I thought another studio would try to shove Iron Man out of that date. I just wasn't expecting it to be a Bond film.

[mr jinx]

well, if it was spiderman or even hulk, i think marvel should take em on, but after the superman vs pirates fiasco, i wonder if it might not be better to take on kung fu panda, which will likely be the weekend before memorial day. Iron man, i am sure, wants to stay away from Batman 2.

[Eros]

this is James freaking bond[no matter whos playing him], one of the top 5 biggest movie icons of all time. Whenever a bond movie ocmes out, its is a force to be reckoned with . poeple worship bond, they damn sure don't worship iron-man.

[Jinnobi]

Bond films always attract people. Iron Man does not have a huge fan base the way a Spider-man or Batman does. People interested in comics and special features will go, regardless. Bond fans go see Bond films. I predict it will do about as good as Daredevil.

[Advanced Dark]

Originally Posted by Eros

this is James freaking bond[no matter whos playing him], one of the top 5 biggest movie icons of all time. Whenever a bond movie ocmes out, its is a force to be reckoned with . poeple worship bond, they damn sure don't worship iron-man.

Sorry but no bond film has ever hit blockbuster territory even with Brosnan. He's old news. Today's kids (the primary demographic for summer films) don't give 2 craps about James Bond...for the most part. I'm sure there are some fans but the majority would rather watch a film like Iron Man or Ghost Rider than Bond. Look at MI:3 w/Tom Cruise. Great film, well known actor...dissapointment.

[Eros]

Originally Posted by Advanced Dark

Sorry but no bond film has ever hit blockbuster territory even with Brosnan. He's old news. Today's kids (the primary demographic for summer films) don't give 2 craps about James Bond...for the most part. I'm sure there are some fans but the majority would rather watch a film like Iron Man or Ghost Rider than Bond. Look at MI:3 w/Tom Cruise. Great film, well known actor...dissapointment.

the last 4 Bond movies have each grossed over 400 millions dollars worldwide.including way Over 100 million dollars in america each, so why is that not considered blockbuster to you?

[Advanced Dark]

actually only Die another Day which was Brosnan's last film & had Halle Berry grossed over 400 million, and that one grossed 160 domestic. No other Bond film has come close to Die Another Day, and no other Bond film has topped 400 worldwide. You don't need to fabricate #'s.

[Hunter Rider]

Despite what some immature fanboys may think Bond opening in direct competition with Iron Man is a blow.No one even knows yet how much interest the GA will have in Iron Man,it could be the new DD quite easily and Bond is a solid bet every time out

[Hunter Rider]

Originally Posted by Advanced Dark

Sorry but no bond film has ever hit blockbuster territory even with Brosnan. He's old news. Today's kids (the primary demographic for summer films) don't give 2 craps about James Bond...for the most part. I'm sure there are some fans but the majority would rather watch a film like Iron Man or Ghost Rider than Bond. Look at MI:3 w/Tom Cruise. Great film, well known actor...dissapointment.

Your bias flys out of this post,for starters there is no proof anyone gives two craps about Ghost Rider or Iron Man and in case you wern't aware Tom Cruise has got less stroke than he had due to last summer

[Warhammer]

If Casino Royale is a hit and Craig's Bond ends up being as good as they say, Iron Man will have big competition.

Oh well, more great movies in 2008.

[Warhammer]

Originally Posted by hunter rider

Your bias flys out of this post,for starters there is no proof anyone gives two craps about Ghost Rider or Iron Man and in case you wern't aware Tom Cruise has got less stroke than he had due to last summer

Yeah, I always thogh M:I:III was a disappointment, not because of the actual movie, but Cruise, himself.

[chiefchirpa]

I say may the best trailer wins.

Iron Man can win if it has a relatively well-known actor (but we don't want Tom), cool SFX shown in the trailer, and a better techno action. Casino Royale has something against it like a newcomer Bond and darker stuff that kids don't watch.

Oh, I say Iron Man needs to have its armor brightly colored Crimson Red. Bright Red (look at Spider-Man) has to attract viewers more as opposed to darker hued costume (Batman Begins, Superman Returns).

[Advanced Dark]

Originally Posted by hunter rider

Your bias flys out of this post,for starters there is no proof anyone gives two craps about Ghost Rider or Iron Man and in case you wern't aware Tom Cruise has got less stroke than he had due to last summer

Again, the primary audience for these films are young men under 30 and over 13. They're more into comic book type films in general than James Bond. You put the Ghost Rider or Iron Man Trailer next to Craig in James Bond 8 out of 10 of the 13-30 year olds will be more attracted to the Comic Book film.

[Advanced Dark]

Originally Posted by chiefchirpa

I say may the best trailer wins.

That's what it's gonna come down to. Which trailer is gonna excite people the most. It'll be interesting to see if Marvel can promote like Fox. It's like whne you watch that Ghost Rider trailer most people's reaction I've witnessed is like WTF? That looks insane! It a fresh concept to the average moviegoer. It's different.

[Hunter Rider]

Originally Posted by Advanced Dark

Again, the primary audience for these films are young men under 30 and over 13. They're more into comic book type films in general than James Bond. You put the Ghost Rider or Iron Man Trailer next to Craig in James Bond 8 out of 10 of the 13-30 year olds will be more attracted to the Comic Book film.

That's utter specualtion,i guess thats why WOTW creamed both BB and F4 last year ? or why The Last Samurai has made more WW than any comic book movie except for the Spidey films
SR should tell you that there is no guarantee and GR and IM could quite easily be DD's.
The last Bond made big money and this one already has a sequel greenlit,to ignore that IM would need to be as successful as F4 straight out the gate to even compete with Bonds last domestic gross is pure fanboyism

[GL's Light]

I'll bet that Casino Royale will gross more than Ghost Rider, and by a substantial margin, both domestically and worldwide.

[COME ON !]

Originally Posted by GL's Light

I'll bet that Casino Royale will gross more than Ghost Rider, and by a substantial margin, both domestically and worldwide.

Me too.

[mr jinx]

Originally Posted by GL's Light

I'll bet that Casino Royale will gross more than Ghost Rider, and by a substantial margin, both domestically and worldwide.

especially worldwide. Bond is big overseas. When I was younger I used to read tons of marvel comics (including daredevil, ghost rider, and even the new warriors) but i nver bought a single Iron Man issue. i cant be the only one that feels that way. i still am rooting for the film, but he just isnt an A lister.

[antariksh]

Originally Posted by mr jinx

especially worldwide. Bond is big overseas. When I was younger I used to read tons of marvel comics (including daredevil, ghost rider, and even the new warriors) but i nver bought a single Iron Man issue. i cant be the only one that feels that way. i still am rooting for the film, but he just isnt an A lister.

Don't worry F4 was not considered a A lister comic book BUT it did do more than $330 milliom worldwide.

If IRON MAN is a great movie+gets big marketing with cool posters and trailers, tv-spots. Then i am sure it can do $350 million worldwide.

It all depends on which appeals more to kids, teenagers and adults.