Iron Man BO thread - Page 3

Darthphere · 07-22-2006, 01:49 PM

Iron Man will be fine, damn calm your asses down. They probably wont release it the same weekend anyway. And for all we know one or both of these productions might be delayed. As for Bond, im looking forward to it and Daniel Craig is a fine actor.

DACrowe · 07-22-2006, 03:34 PM

I'm not a big fan of Craig, so I'll wait and see if CR works (a great book btw)...

but to say Iron Man is more well known or have the neverve to say Bond WAS NEVER a blcokbuster is just IGNORANT. The Connery films practically invented the blockbuster film. Goldeneye, TWINE, and DAD (though bad) were also MODERN blockbusters.

Oh well though.

ROB · 07-22-2006, 05:00 PM

look this is an Iron Man fan discusion board and if all the bond boys here dont respect that than bugger off back to your bond boards. If you dont understand why we love IM than youve never read it and wouldnt understand our passion for this film.

Retroman · 07-22-2006, 05:00 PM

The Bond franchise has been around for over 40 years, the bestselling books even longer than that. It has longevity and its a huge moneymaker despite which actors take on the lead roles.

I asked a couple people what they'd rather see Iron Man or Bond and they all said; Who is Iron Man? I think that says a lot.

GL's Light · 07-22-2006, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ROB

look this is an Iron Man fan discusion board and if all the bond boys here dont respect that than bugger off back to your bond boards. If you dont understand why we love IM than youve never read it and wouldnt understand our passion for this film.

Nonsense. This isn't about which movie any of us would personally rather see (I'd much rather watch Iron Man than a Bond film), it's about being realistic about the competition a Bond film poses.

**Hunter Rider** · 07-22-2006, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ROB

look this is an Iron Man fan discusion board and if all the bond boys here dont respect that than bugger off back to your bond boards. If you dont understand why we love IM than youve never read it and wouldnt understand our passion for this film.

That has nothing to do with anything,why is it so hard for people to understand that you can be a fan of more than one thing and also look at things objectively,being a fan has nothing to do with the common sense that Bond is a bigger deal cinematically and opening against it would be a mistake

Darthphere · 07-22-2006, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hunter rider

That has nothing to do with anything,why is it so hard for people to understand that you can be a fan of more than one thing and also look at things objectively,being a fan has nothing to do with the common sense that Bond is a bigger deal cinematically and opening against it would be a mistake

Cinemaman · 07-22-2006, 06:43 PM

I think IM will beat James Bond 22 with $188m.

But then, BB2 will beat IM.

FVD · 07-22-2006, 07:38 PM

I'm sure Casino Royale will still be a pretty good film. After all Martin Campbell is directing this. As for Daniel Craig as 007, well I'll decide once I've seen the movie.

kedrell · 07-22-2006, 07:40 PM

I am 100% sure that these 2 movies won't come out on the same weekend. That would be just nuts for both of them.

YJ1 · 07-23-2006, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mr jinx

i still am rooting for the film, but he just isnt an A lister.

This guy is no A-lister and he's no James Bond...

After Casino Royale disappoints at the box office, this won't even be an issue. The only reason the studio staked out this date was to send a vote of confidence Craig's way. It'll be a hallow gesture after the box office numbers hit. Trust me, this actor won't register as Bond with US movie goers.

Hiruu · 07-23-2006, 10:15 PM

Bah...it's a bit bold of Sony to set the date for a 2nd Bond film, when the first one isn't complete yet, and they don't know if he's a Pierce or Dalton. I think it's Sony's way of jockeying over Spider-Man...it's been a complete love-hate relationship. IF Sony somehow get's the 2nd film complete in time, I'd move Iron Man, as there's TOO much at stakes for games of chicken.

Octoberist · 07-24-2006, 02:12 AM

all I have to say that Daniel Craig is an ugly James Bond. Fine actor, but no Bond.

I'm keeping an open mind, however, I DON'T think the mainstream will. I will predict that SONY will get some cold feet and move the date away from Iron Man.

CConn · 07-24-2006, 04:55 AM

What I don't think most people are realizing is, this isn't about who "beats" who. No matter who wins the weekend or overall numbers, if they're released on the same day, both films' box office will be hurt. For that reason alone somebody's has to move.

COME ON ! · 07-24-2006, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Octoberist

all I have to say that Daniel Craig is an ugly James Bond. Fine actor, but no Bond.

I'm keeping an open mind, however, I DON'T think the mainstream will. I will predict that SONY will get some cold feet and move the date away from Iron Man.

If you're a man and heterosexual (i'm just assuming here

) what do you care if he's not as "good-looking" as Brosnan ? I just wanna see a cool Bond movie and Craig is a good actor. I've read that the new Bond movies are going in the Jason Bourne direction too, so it all sounds good. I think it will do just as well as the Brosnan movies, if not better at the box office.

Plus, Chris Cornell is doing the the new Bond theme ! I'm looking forward to that.

YJ1 · 07-24-2006, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiruu

Bah...it's a bit bold of Sony to set the date for a 2nd Bond film, when the first one isn't complete yet, and they don't know if he's a Pierce or Dalton. I think it's Sony's way of jockeying over Spider-Man...it's been a complete love-hate relationship. IF Sony somehow get's the 2nd film complete in time, I'd move Iron Man, as there's TOO much at stakes for games of chicken.

I wonder if that Marvel/Sony lawsuit over Spider-Man has anything to do with this? Marvel sued Sony after the first film hit big and claimed that Sony was trying to make Spider-Man their property by advertising it as such. They settled out of court but paid Marvel some big coin and even renegotiated the movie deals. Now that Marvel is standing on their own, I wonder if this is a deliberate shot their way? I know a studio isn't going to base any decision solely on trying to "stick it" to another studio but it may have factored in to their thinking.

ChrisBaleBatman · 07-24-2006, 05:59 PM

I still don't think that they'd miss on the chance to release a 007 film.....in 2007.

I mean, the marketing could write itself. Thhey could easily play with 2007, 22and Bond film and 007.

I'd bet they really would like to make a December 2007 date, but just gave themselves the extra couple of months just in case.

And, I dunno about you guys...the Casino Royale trailers look incredible.

Although, still.....Craig isn't the ahem, greatest looking Bond.

Manny Calavera · 07-25-2006, 03:05 AM

Reading this thread, and the childish "omg how dare they make and release movies other than iron man!1!!" crap, you would think some of you actually stand to make money from Iron Man or something. Seriously, do any of you honestly even passingly care that another movie may compete with a movie you want to see?

YJ1 · 07-25-2006, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Manny Calavera

Reading this thread, and the childish "omg how dare they make and release movies other than iron man!1!!" crap, you would think some of you actually stand to make money from Iron Man or something. Seriously, do any of you honestly even passingly care that another movie may compete with a movie you want to see?

If you want to see an Iron Man 2 or an Avengers film you care. Marvel itself has almost everything riding on the success of their first two or three solo ventures. If they all lose money, Marvel will be in very deep trouble and could very easily lose their rights to those characters. Those character rights are put up as collateral in their 525 million dollar movie producing loan. So, this is a very big deal and hardly childish.

The Batman · 07-25-2006, 12:39 PM

AD's extreme bias towards marvel rears its ugly head yet again.

When Iron Man is even half the cultural icon james bond is, give me a call. James Bond was as big as the beatles back in its heyday. It's the only franchise that has been consistently running. To say its not a threat to iron man, a movie based on a hero thats not known by the general public, directed by a guy who's movie zathura underperformed, shows how much you know.

COME ON ! · 07-25-2006, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batman

AD's extreme bias towards marvel rears its ugly head yet again.

When Iron Man is even half the cultural icon james bond is, give me a call. James Bond was as big as the beatles back in its heyday. It's the only franchise that has been consistently running. To say its not a threat to iron man, a movie based on a hero thats not known by the general public, directed by a guy who's movie zathura underperformed, shows how much you know.

ChrisBaleBatman · 07-25-2006, 05:24 PM

It's Bond. 007 guys, give the character and that franchise the tip of the cap. I mean, if it weren't still a ticket....then the franchise would be dead.

But, CConn is right. ONE of the films will need to move, b/c BOTH will suffer if they come out at the same time.

Decemeber 2007 is my guess, for 22nd 007.

Advanced Dark · 07-25-2006, 05:38 PM

Bond has lots to fear from Iron Man. Iron Man is the type of property that will have a huge opening weekend as most comic book films do. Bond won't be able to compete with it. No way in hell. Not with Craig especially. Argue all you want Bond will move or die.

kytrigger · 07-25-2006, 06:30 PM

And if neither move, then Iron Man will need that huge opening weekend domestically, because it's a pretty safe bet that Bond will soundly beat it and others internationally.

**Hunter Rider** · 07-25-2006, 06:56 PM

The level of silly fanboyism is reaching insanity in here

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07-22-2006, 01:49 PM	#51
Darthphere Kneel before 'Drox! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Phantom Zone Posts: 81,979	Re: looks like IRON MAN has some BIG COMPETETION!!!! Iron Man will be fine, damn calm your asses down. They probably wont release it the same weekend anyway. And for all we know one or both of these productions might be delayed. As for Bond, im looking forward to it and Daniel Craig is a fine actor. __________________ "When I was in college, I was belittling the woman who later become my wife for not knowing who Boba Fett was, and she responded by asking me if I knew who the Prime Minister of Israel was. Surprisingly? Not Mon Mothma."-BKV

07-22-2006, 03:34 PM	#52
DACrowe Side-Kick Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: No longer NC Posts: 24,759	Re: looks like IRON MAN has some BIG COMPETETION!!!! I'm not a big fan of Craig, so I'll wait and see if CR works (a great book btw)... but to say Iron Man is more well known or have the neverve to say Bond WAS NEVER a blcokbuster is just IGNORANT. The Connery films practically invented the blockbuster film. Goldeneye, TWINE, and DAD (though bad) were also MODERN blockbusters. Oh well though.

07-22-2006, 05:00 PM	#53
ROB Side-Kick Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: stark towers Posts: 57	Re: looks like IRON MAN has some BIG COMPETETION!!!! look this is an Iron Man fan discusion board and if all the bond boys here dont respect that than bugger off back to your bond boards. If you dont understand why we love IM than youve never read it and wouldnt understand our passion for this film.

07-22-2006, 05:00 PM	#54
Retroman Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 20,455	Re: looks like IRON MAN has some BIG COMPETETION!!!! The Bond franchise has been around for over 40 years, the bestselling books even longer than that. It has longevity and its a huge moneymaker despite which actors take on the lead roles. I asked a couple people what they'd rather see Iron Man or Bond and they all said; Who is Iron Man? I think that says a lot. __________________ Avatar courtesy

07-22-2006, 06:43 PM	#58
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07-22-2006, 07:38 PM	#59
FVD Road to Redemption Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 1,383	Re: looks like IRON MAN has some BIG COMPETETION!!!! I'm sure Casino Royale will still be a pretty good film. After all Martin Campbell is directing this. As for Daniel Craig as 007, well I'll decide once I've seen the movie.

07-22-2006, 07:40 PM	#60
kedrell You'll never Beetus Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Driving coast to coast Posts: 15,349	Re: looks like IRON MAN has some BIG COMPETETION!!!! I am 100% sure that these 2 movies won't come out on the same weekend. That would be just nuts for both of them.

07-23-2006, 10:15 PM	#62
Hiruu Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Everywhere! Posts: 1,153	Re: looks like IRON MAN has some BIG COMPETETION!!!! Bah...it's a bit bold of Sony to set the date for a 2nd Bond film, when the first one isn't complete yet, and they don't know if he's a Pierce or Dalton. I think it's Sony's way of jockeying over Spider-Man...it's been a complete love-hate relationship. IF Sony somehow get's the 2nd film complete in time, I'd move Iron Man, as there's TOO much at stakes for games of chicken.

07-24-2006, 02:12 AM	#63
Octoberist point blank Join Date: May 2005 Location: California Posts: 31,673	Re: looks like IRON MAN has some BIG COMPETETION!!!! all I have to say that Daniel Craig is an ugly James Bond. Fine actor, but no Bond. I'm keeping an open mind, however, I DON'T think the mainstream will. I will predict that SONY will get some cold feet and move the date away from Iron Man. __________________ pttf

07-24-2006, 04:55 AM	#64
CConn Fountainhead of culture. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Peter North's Southern Headquarters Posts: 57,435	Re: looks like IRON MAN has some BIG COMPETETION!!!! What I don't think most people are realizing is, this isn't about who "beats" who. No matter who wins the weekend or overall numbers, if they're released on the same day, both films' box office will be hurt. For that reason alone somebody's has to move. __________________ It's like a non-consecutive 24-hour dance party.

07-24-2006, 05:59 PM	#67
ChrisBaleBatman Legendary Hero Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Shadow Moses Posts: 17,397	Re: looks like IRON MAN has some BIG COMPETETION!!!! I still don't think that they'd miss on the chance to release a 007 film.....in 2007. I mean, the marketing could write itself. Thhey could easily play with 2007, 22and Bond film and 007. I'd bet they really would like to make a December 2007 date, but just gave themselves the extra couple of months just in case. And, I dunno about you guys...the Casino Royale trailers look incredible. Although, still.....Craig isn't the ahem, greatest looking Bond.

07-25-2006, 03:05 AM	#68
Manny Calavera Banned User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: El Marrow Posts: 1,435	Re: looks like IRON MAN has some BIG COMPETETION!!!! Reading this thread, and the childish "omg how dare they make and release movies other than iron man!1!!" crap, you would think some of you actually stand to make money from Iron Man or something. Seriously, do any of you honestly even passingly care that another movie may compete with a movie you want to see?

07-25-2006, 05:24 PM	#72
ChrisBaleBatman Legendary Hero Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Shadow Moses Posts: 17,397	Re: looks like IRON MAN has some BIG COMPETETION!!!! It's Bond. 007 guys, give the character and that franchise the tip of the cap. I mean, if it weren't still a ticket....then the franchise would be dead. But, CConn is right. ONE of the films will need to move, b/c BOTH will suffer if they come out at the same time. Decemeber 2007 is my guess, for 22nd 007.

07-25-2006, 05:38 PM	#73
Advanced Dark Banned User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Rock Bottom Posts: 17,593	Re: looks like IRON MAN has some BIG COMPETETION!!!! Bond has lots to fear from Iron Man. Iron Man is the type of property that will have a huge opening weekend as most comic book films do. Bond won't be able to compete with it. No way in hell. Not with Craig especially. Argue all you want Bond will move or die.

07-25-2006, 06:30 PM	#74
kytrigger Side-Kick Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: St. Louis Posts: 4,438	Re: looks like IRON MAN has some BIG COMPETETION!!!! And if neither move, then Iron Man will need that huge opening weekend domestically, because it's a pretty safe bet that Bond will soundly beat it and others internationally.

07-25-2006, 06:56 PM	#75
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