Iron Man BO thread

[Advanced Dark]

That's a weak way of putting it. Besides Marvel has NOT release a studio film yet so we haven't seen a film with Marvel's personal big push behind it. It's always been other studios with Avi commenting on the sidelines. We also have a very talented director attached who has lots of pull as far as getting top talent to join in if needed. Also no other Bond film has made as much as Die Another Day either. So comparing Bond's #1 film to Marvel films yet dismissing Marvel's top 5 films is hilarious. Iron Man has potential to hit 200 million with the talent, the character, and the May release date. Casino Royale has a new uninteresting actor who's the worst casting choice I've ever seen. He's not popular like Brosnan and will never have that appeal. Brosnan had it with Remington Steel and before. He was a fan favorite to be bond. Craig? Who the hell is he? Not many women (who are a big part of Bond's box office) are hot for Craig here in the US. Brosnan was a major sex symbol and drew in decent size crowds of women as well as men.

[Darthphere]

Originally Posted by Advanced Dark

That's a weak way of putting it. Besides Marvel has NOT release a studio film yet so we haven't seen a film with Marvel's personal big push behind it. It's always been other studios with Avi commenting on the sidelines. We also have a very talented director attached who has lots of pull as far as getting top talent to join in if needed. Also no other Bond film has made as much as Die Another Day either. So comparing Bond's #1 film to Marvel films yet dismissing Marvel's top 5 films is hilarious. Iron Man has potential to hit 200 million with the talent, the character, and the May release date.

Yes it does, nobody is denying that as HR said those are FF level numbers.

[Advanced Dark]

Originally Posted by Darthphere

Yes it does, nobody is denying that as HR said those are FF level numbers.

200 million is not FF #'s domestically. FF made just over 154 million.

[Hunter Rider]

Iron Man has a director with zero experience in these types of film and the character has little to no mainstream awareness not to mention marketing comes no bigger than Fox so that won't be an issue

[Hypestyle]

i hope that the next bond movie (after casino) ends up having production delays, so that the movie can be postponed until a later date.. i'd rather that the bond franchise thrive, but not at the expense of Iron Man..

[Darthphere]

Originally Posted by Hypestyle

i hope that the next bond movie (after casino) ends up having production delays, so that the movie can be postponed until a later date.. i'd rather that the bond franchise thrive, but not at the expense of Iron Man..

I think it might get a huge push if CR is a success to come out late 2007.

[YJ1]

Originally Posted by hunter rider

History shows that no Marvel character outside the big 2 have made as much as Die Another Day,Iron Man is looking for F4 numbers at best for it's first time out

So is Casino Royale. The question is who will get those FF type numbers?

Dressing up a dead horse like James Bond with an average no name goon or a fresh and original concept like Iron Man? My money is on Iron Man.

By the way do you really want to play the numbers game? Outside the big 1 you keep mentioning, no Bond film has made as much as Fantastic Four. Even then, Die Another Day barely beats it and that no doubt is because of the Halle Berry (of X-Men fame) factor, not James Bond.

[Darthphere]

Originally Posted by YJ1

So is Casino Royale. The question is who will get those FF type numbers?

Dressing up a dead horse like James Bond with an average no name goon or a fresh and original concept like Iron Man? My money is on Iron Man.

By the way do you really want to play the numbers game? Outside the big 1 you keep mentioning, no Bond film has made as much as Fantastic Four. Even then, Die Another Day barely beats it and that no doubt is because of the Halle Berry (of X-Men fame) factor, not James Bond.

Catwoman broke box office records.

[Hunter Rider]

Originally Posted by YJ1

So is Casino Royale. The question is who will get those FF type numbers?

Dressing up a dead horse like James Bond with an average no name goon or a fresh and original concept like Iron Man? My money is on Iron Man.

By the way do you really want to play the numbers game? Outside the big 1 you keep mentioning, no Bond film has made as much as Fantastic Four. Even then, Die Another Day barely beats it and that no doubt is because of the Halle Berry (of X-Men fame) factor, not James Bond.

Most of Bond's movies would need to be calculated in inflation and WW to even make it a point,i was going off the latest figures,they are what matters,a franchise with huge awareness and a badass new Bond vs Batman in a iron suit ? DD numbers may be more in Iron Man's sights for his first movie

[YJ1]

Originally Posted by Darthphere

Catwoman broke box office records.

X-Men = a Billion Dollar Franchise

X-Men (2000)
Die Another Day (2002)
X2 (2003)

[Darthphere]

I dont even kno why this turning into such a huge debate, one of them is without a doubt going to move, and CR hasnt even come out yet, so we'll have to see how that does. And believe it or not, there are people looking forward to the new Bond movie, and like most mediums most of the haters represent a vocal minority.

[Darthphere]

Originally Posted by YJ1

X-Men = a Billion Dollar Franchise

X-Men (2000)
Die Another Day (2002)
X2 (2003)

Ok, you said Die ANother Day did well at the box office because of Halle Berry. If thats the case Catwoman wouldve been #1 at the box office. And please Storm/Halle Berry were probably the most hated part of the X-Men movies.

[Advanced Dark]

Hunter you're being ridiculous now. Comparing a horrible Ben Affleck movie (arguably Marvel's worst major release) released in February while most of the East Coast was burried in a Blizzard to a May 2nd release of a 140 million dollar Iron Man film directed by Jon Favreau. C'mon now.

[Hunter Rider]

Originally Posted by YJ1

X-Men = a Billion Dollar Franchise

X-Men (2000)
Die Another Day (2002)
X2 (2003)

Swordfish 2001-Also starring X man actor Hugh Jackman and John Travolta BO-$69,772,969
She didn't have anything to do with DAD's BO

[Advanced Dark]

Originally Posted by Darthphere

Ok, you said Die ANother Day did well at the box office because of Halle Berry. If thats the case Catwoman wouldve been #1 at the box office. And please Storm/Halle Berry were probably the most hated part of the X-Men movies.

Halle Berry is not a box office drawn and never has been. She's a non factor. She doesn't help or hurt a box office but makes the films easier to watch...in most cases.

[YJ1]

Originally Posted by hunter rider

Most of Bond's movies would need to be calculated in inflation and WW to even make it a point,i was going off the latest figures,they are what matters,a franchise with huge awareness and a badass new Bond vs Batman in a iron suit ? DD numbers may be more in Iron Man's sights for his first movie

So ticket prices haven't increased since 2003 when Daredevil was released?

Odds are that Daredevil's domestic beats Casino Royale's domestic take.

Iron Man's will soar past both.

[Hunter Rider]

Originally Posted by Advanced Dark

Hunter you're being ridiculous now. Comparing a horrible Ben Affleck movie (arguably Marvel's worst major release) released in February while most of the East Coast was burried in a Blizzard to a May 2nd release of a 140 million dollar Iron Man film directed by Jon Favreau. C'mon now.

Afflek was a star at that point and got it a huge opening,and it is far from the worst Marvel movie
Iron Man is in the same position of no mainstream awareness and without a big name,$140M ?

[Darthphere]

Originally Posted by Advanced Dark

Hunter you're being ridiculous now. Comparing a horrible Ben Affleck movie (arguably Marvel's worst major release) released in February while most of the East Coast was burried in a Blizzard to a May 2nd release of a 140 million dollar Iron Man film directed by Jon Favreau. C'mon now.

You throw around Jon Favreau's name like hes a big time director or something, he isnt Spielberg man, his name alone wont bring people to the theatres, damn your bias/fanboyism is hilarious.

[COME ON !]

Originally Posted by Advanced Dark

Hunter you're being ridiculous now. Comparing a horrible Ben Affleck movie (arguably Marvel's worst major release) released in February while most of the East Coast was burried in a Blizzard to a May 2nd release of a 140 million dollar Iron Man film directed by Jon Favreau. C'mon now.

Is that the confirmed budget ?

[Darthphere]

Originally Posted by Advanced Dark

Halle Berry is not a box office drawn and never has been. She's a non factor. She doesn't help or hurt a box office but makes the films easier to watch...in most cases.

I know this, shes one hot momma, but for YJ1 to bring out her name like if she sells tickets is ridiculous, at least you see this.

[Hunter Rider]

Originally Posted by YJ1

So ticket prices haven't increased since 2003 when Daredevil was released?

Odds are that Daredevil's domestic beats Casino Royale's domestic take.

Iron Man's will soar past both.

What you want as a marvel fanatic and what happens are 2 very different things

[Advanced Dark]

The bottom line: Crag does not have the box office draw of Pierce Brosnan who revitalized the franchise. He's horribly miscast, and Bond has never been consistently a blockbuster franchise though it's always been good enough to keep going.

[Hunter Rider]

Originally Posted by Advanced Dark

The bottom line: Crag does not have the box office draw of Pierce Brosnan who revitalized the franchise. He's horribly miscast, and Bond has never been consistently a blockbuster franchise though it's always been good enough to keep going.

Brosnan has never drawn a dime outside the Bond movies,why is Craig miscast ? because he's not a pretty boy ?

[GL's Light]

FF level box office is a realistic target for Iron Man. Which means that Marvel should keep the budget to around $ 100-110 million, rather than letting it inflate to $ 140 million (and where exactly did AD get that figure from?).

[Darthphere]

Originally Posted by Advanced Dark

The bottom line: Crag does not have the box office draw of Pierce Brosnan who revitalized the franchise. He's horribly miscast, and Bond has never been consistently a blockbuster franchise though it's always been good enough to keep going.

LOL! Back to square one. Sorry thats an opinion, not fact. We'll get the facts one Casino Royale's box office numbers come in.